The boiler system broke and they immediately fixed it. What an absolute shambles. Don’t even recognize this club anymore.
Steve Bates: Cristiano Ronaldo forces Glazers to act with complaints over Man Utd training ground
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Not true. It’s been around in the media for a long time that your youth facilities were not up to the standard of clubs like City and Chelsea. This is before your downfall. It’s not inconceivable that your first team facilities would also need renovation.
Weird I thought some people said the Glazers invested plenty
The tiles in the pool were fine before Shaw went in during preseason
we used to be a revered footballing institution with state of the art facilities. Now we’re relying on players to identify maintenance issues. What next? An overflowing locker room toilet? Man, we’ve really plummeted down the footballing ladder (both on and off the pitch) after Sir Alex
Why is Ronaldo even bothering? If I was him, I'd be out the door ASAP. The whole club is in an awful state
Ronaldo’s mentality is world class and it shows on the pitch even in his ageing state.
It raises seveal questions for me:
1) Why did it take Ronaldo's arrival to mention this situation ?
2) Was this problem mentioned before and ignored ?
3) Were the other players/staff members completely unaware of it ?
All in all, it's a joke really
1) Why did it take Ronaldo's arrival to mention this situation ?
2) Was this problem mentioned before and ignored ?
3) Were the other players/staff members completely unaware of it ?
All in all, it's a joke really
That's the spirit.
You think the Glazers spend much time in their day-to-day lives thinking about what the pool at the United training ground looks like?
Blame the Glazers for allowing their club to be run by incompetent buffoons but we have to realise the blame for our decline resides with the men, like Ed Woodward, who ran the club and allowed standards to slip so far
The reason I keep making this point is that because we can be successful in spite of the Glazers, as long as they appoint the right people to run the operations
Every couple of days there’s a Ronaldo couldn’t believe <insertmajorissuehere> article in the news. These are lies, aren’t they?
I’m so glad Ronaldo came back, forget the goals his presence alone demands better!
Yes we could all see his demands come to fruition this season.
There’s a common denominator in all these things, it’s the incompetence of Woodward and his offsider Judge, they were given the keys to the kingdom by the Glazers and had no friggin idea.
If they were blind enough to not understand the need for simple upgrades and maintenance in the basics, how on earth were they trying to run a club like Man Utd. How did Citeh get in such a strong position, basically football appointments and experience compared to the hooray Henry’s placed in charge by the absent owners as reward for organising an investment which basically cost nothing but provided dividends and shares to sell and an increasing asset value.
A sad state of affairs, it needs rebuild and hopefully it has started, otherwise a slide further down the table is on the cards.
If they were blind enough to not understand the need for simple upgrades and maintenance in the basics, how on earth were they trying to run a club like Man Utd. How did Citeh get in such a strong position, basically football appointments and experience compared to the hooray Henry’s placed in charge by the absent owners as reward for organising an investment which basically cost nothing but provided dividends and shares to sell and an increasing asset value.
A sad state of affairs, it needs rebuild and hopefully it has started, otherwise a slide further down the table is on the cards.
"If they hire the right people we can be successful"? If my gran had wheels she would have been a bike.
It's their responsibility to hire the right people and fire the wrong ones. To hold people accountable. Woodward was leading the circus for as long as he did with their blessing. And he was fired not because the club had become a laughing stock, but because the fans raised a stink about the ESL and someone had to take the fall.
The ultimate blame lies with them, because they just don't give a shit. Relying on a stroke of luck of them hiring the right people isn't a sound strategy.
I maintain it's an important distinction because the Glazers have allocated enough resources for the club to be successful and Ed Woodward is now gone.
So my point is, if Arnold and Murtough are competent, we can be successful. It's as simple as that in my opinion.
Well, feck me, I'm so grateful the Glazers have allocated the club's own money towards the development of the club itself. After taking out their dividends and making payments towards the debt with which they saddled the club with, of course. How generous of them. Now if only they could be bothered to appoint someone competent to spend that money. Ah well...
Come on, man.
I agree with the fact the Glazers only invested the money and were not particularly interested about what really happened with the club structure but I don't think the dividends part is that questionable.
Everyone and their dog will take out dividends when buying such a big asset. They didn't buy the club to lose money on it and nobody, absolutely nobody wouldn't do that in their position.
I know most of you fans hate the Glazers, but it's their business and they're entitled to take dividends out whenever the feck they want. Is it the right thing to do? Yes, no, maybe, but it's their business, not yours.
Also @Telsim, it's not the Glazer's responsibility to hire people capable to to their job, it's the board's. And it's a long shot anyway, maybe they did try, maybe Ed fooled them, it does not matter, it's a pointless discussion without being on the board and actually knowing their plans.
On the other side of things, when Jose and LVG and now Ragnick were spouting shit (aka the real truth) at the club most of you fans were upset they were doing it in public towards such an elegant and traditional organization.
It's a bit sad that any discussion about this club turns to Glazers and "structure" and "culture" in 5 minutes, be it online or in real life.
One thing I'm going to say is, it's starts with the fans the same way as this discussion started with Ronaldo asking for some standards. In Madrid, Barcelona, hell even in Munich, when the team plays shit/the club is going in the wrong direction, the fans boo the shit out of them.
When United does the same, the match going fans still clap the players at the end because it's some sort of "United way". Where are the standards asked by supporters? There aren't and they will never be, as the vast United supporters are sitting around with their dicks in their hands and taking pictures.
It all starts with who's demanding a certain standard. If the club is not, then it's on someone else.(players, staff, but fans are the most important ones).
I suspect that there must be some sort of Maintenance person that should look after these things. So they have either not been doing their job properly, typical United, or it is the lack of funds from the owners. Hard to imagine that the owners wouldn’t release a couple of grand to replace a few tiles.
thats grim, fair dues to Ronaldo for kicking up and demanding the best though. At least they have the best Pot Noodle Vending machine this side of Yokohama thanks to Ed.
I wouldn't bother coming at me with that attitude to be honest. It's boring and it belongs on Twitter with that idiot LUHG Mike bloke.
A good chunk of us would have been stood outside the ground protesting 17 years ago and putting our own money into MUST (and/or Shareholders United, whatever it was called at the time) so we're well aware of the damage the Glazers have done to our club thanks, and we were aware then.
The difference is some of us have moved on and have accepted the reality of the situation for what it is, whilst others still want to take part in this online p**sing contest to prove they are the toppest of top Reds...generally by never actually doing anything useful but just slating the Glazers at every opportunity and blaming them for every single bad thing that has happened at the club.
Manchester United are a business. We are owned by the Glazer family. It is now their club to do what they see fit with. If you want a detailed breakdown of the history of the Glazer takeover and their subsequent running of the club, it's all on here many times over.
The FACT remains that Manchester United have the highest net spend in World football over the last decade and one of the highest wage bills in World football. Regardless of what you think about the Glazers, I maintain that it is perfectly possible to win trophies with the budgets that our various management teams have been allocated.
I will also say that if you don't present the realities of Glazer ownership accurately to rival fans and the media, they'll never have any sympathy with the cause.
It hurts a lot to see how we have fallen from having the best facilities and stadium when Glazers bought us to this current state.
I always thought Glazers were good owners as they spend a lot but they failed because they didn't know how to run the club.
When I read these things and look at the stadium condition during my recent visits to old-Trafford, I really wish we have better owners who can put football side of things in first place than commercialising the club.
I really wish we will again become a club envious by other club players and fans and hope that day is not too far.
I always thought Glazers were good owners as they spend a lot but they failed because they didn't know how to run the club.
When I read these things and look at the stadium condition during my recent visits to old-Trafford, I really wish we have better owners who can put football side of things in first place than commercialising the club.
I really wish we will again become a club envious by other club players and fans and hope that day is not too far.