The final part of my post was what managers were the most successful. Two Celtic managers in there. But you missed the St Johnstone manager, titles won, is ahead of Gerrard.The final part of your post was literally a comparison with other Celtic managers. His title was more impressive than any of theirs. Villa would have been looking at them beating the likes of Porto in the EL, rather than worrying about the fact that he didn’t win a league cup.
I don’t really want him to do well either, but there is nothing wrong with rating his time at Rangers and thinking he might have a chance.
Not going well now and that’s certainly not the worst thing to see in the world! I, like you, hope for more misery!
Classic modern football syndrome. Everyone is world class or shit depending on whatever the most recent game was.I remember how he was lauded in media after one (1) game at Villa like he's the best thing since sliced bread.
That would be sweet.I hope he goes to Liverpool after Klopp, and ruins them.
Are you taking about United or Villa?Saw their games against Newcastle and Leeds and I was alarmed by the performances. They don’t seem to have a style or any sort of tactics. They have some good players and they produce moments. But the team is unbalanced. They play with two wide playmakers but don’t have pacey attacking wing backs.
Their central midfield contains no defensive minded players.
And for some inexplicable reason Douglas Luiz seems to take all their set pieces, not coutinho or Digne.
Haha, it’s funny cos watching them all I could think was. “They’re just a diet United”.Are you taking about United or Villa?
True.Classic modern football syndrome. Everyone is world class or shit depending on whatever the most recent game was.
They outplayed and out passed us when we conceded a 2 goal lead against them in that 2-2 draw.Haha, it’s funny cos watching them all I could think was. “They’re just a diet United”.
That’s standard against United though..They outplayed and out passed us when we conceded a 2 goal lead against them in that 2-2 draw.
Overall I think he's doing a good job so far. He settled in very quickly. Definitely looks better than Lampard
Having watched a lot of Gerrard’s teams over the years, they have a very distinctive style and shape. If anything it can become too predictable, but when it clicks it’s very hard to play against. Right now a number of the players don’t fit the system. He’ll need upgrades in 3-4 positions to make it sing, particularly against weaker opposition that is content to sit in and counter. The challenge is that he never wavers from that way of playing so they’re going to produce mid-table football (spells of good form followed by poor form prompting knee-jerk takes) until they make those signings.Saw their games against Newcastle and Leeds and I was alarmed by the performances. They don’t seem to have a style or any sort of tactics.
So… they’re not really a tough team to manage…Villa is a tough team to manage, they have a good team and great training facilities. They have a good stadium with passionate fanbase.
They are though because they have high expectations. They want to be challenging top 6. They expect it with the criteria above but when was the last time they actually made Europe? The pressure will be on him next season for sure.So… they’re not really a tough team to manage…
Burnley, Brighton, Southampton, Norwich, Watford - these are tough teams to manage in the PL for varying reasons (underinvestment and lack of PL quality being the main ones).
Villa is a nice job with a quality squad.
I have never encountered a single Villa fan who expects to be challenging the top 6. That certainly isn't the expectations Gerrard is working with.They are though because they have high expectations. They want to be challenging top 6. They expect it with the criteria above but when was the last time they actually made Europe? The pressure will be on him next season for sure.
So, you think that ‘fan expectations’ are making it tough for Gerrard…?They are though because they have high expectations. They want to be challenging top 6. They expect it with the criteria above but when was the last time they actually made Europe? The pressure will be on him next season for sure.
What years, 3 at Rangers? You make it sound like he's been a manager for 20 years.Having watched a lot of Gerrard’s teams over the years, they have a very distinctive style and shape. If anything it can become too predictable, but when it clicks it’s very hard to play against. Right now a number of the players don’t fit the system. He’ll need upgrades in 3-4 positions to make it sing, particularly against weaker opposition that is content to sit in and counter. The challenge is that he never wavers from that way of playing so they’re going to produce mid-table football (spells of good form followed by poor form prompting knee-jerk takes) until they make those signings.
Not watched their last couple of games but with how he played with Rangers would make sense if he did.Is he still using Buendia and Coutinho on the wings? It’s a little one paced for the PL.
What is it with football and systems nowadays? If he doesn't have the players, it's sensible for him to adapt tactics that maximizes the players he has.Having watched a lot of Gerrard’s teams over the years, they have a very distinctive style and shape. If anything it can become too predictable, but when it clicks it’s very hard to play against. Right now a number of the players don’t fit the system. He’ll need upgrades in 3-4 positions to make it sing, particularly against weaker opposition that is content to sit in and counter. The challenge is that he never wavers from that way of playing so they’re going to produce mid-table football (spells of good form followed by poor form prompting knee-jerk takes) until they make those signings.
You don't think you can identify a manager's style after three full seasons?What years, 3 at Rangers? You make it sound like he's been a manager for 20 years.
The post says "over the years" like he's Roy Hodgson or something.You don't think you can identify a manager's style after three full seasons?
Villa want European challenges. Europa spot. They believe their squad is good enough, I have a few villa friends and they have fairly high expectations with the squad they have and the money spent. They should be doing better in fairness. Go have a look through villatalk and you get the general feeling. They are not particularly happy.So, you think that ‘fan expectations’ are making it tough for Gerrard…?
Or made it tough for Dean Smith…?
Smith was sacked with them in a relegation battle, and Gerrard could achieve multiple mid table finishes there (if he’s good enough…) and I’d wager that the Villa fanbase would be happy with him.
A lazy excuse for clueless managers. That's all this "The players don't fit the system" is.What is it with football and systems nowadays? If he doesn't have the players, it's sensible for him to adapt tactics that maximizes the players he has.
If they have the cash, it's not laughable at all to be able to compete with you.What is it with football and systems nowadays? If he doesn't have the players, it's sensible for him to adapt tactics that maximizes the players he has.
Aston Villa have spent a lot of money recently; can they afford another season outside 10th? Laughable they're fanbase thought they could compete with Arsenal and bid for Smith-Rowe.
Not sure why something won 40 years ago is relevant, but It does come across as a bit arrogant just as Villa fans were in the first place when the ESR talk was coming out.If they have the cash, it's not laughable at all to be able to compete with you.
And they've won the European Cup, you haven't. I wouldn't be laughing too much.
Have to ignore whoever on social media is saying we should be top 6 as that's simply unrealistic at this point.Villa is a tough team to manage, they have a good team and great training facilities. They have a good stadium with passionate fanbase. But I’d say the expectation with their fan base is above the reality. They have really missed Grealish, even with all the money spent
I’m mainly going off villatalk forum and the villa fans I know. The point I was making wasn’t around this season but more getting yourselves into a good place now ready for next year. This year is kind of finished for you in terms of Europe etc obviously .. but maybe if you played nice football and got some good results you would have momentum next season with a couple decent additions..Have to ignore whoever on social media is saying we should be top 6 as that's simply unrealistic at this point.
Don't see why 9th or 10th should be deemed not realistic though. After we won v Everton three games ago think we were only 2-3 points off Wolves.
Danger now is we don't win soon and we end the season in about 15th on 38 points. That isn't acceptable to me given Gerrard had a transfer window adding Coutinho and Digne.
First few weeks were good....we played good structured football at both ends and results and performances reflected that.I’m mainly going off villatalk forum and the villa fans I know. The point I was making wasn’t around this season but more getting yourselves into a good place now ready for next year. This year is kind of finished for you in terms of Europe etc obviously .. but maybe if you played nice football and got some good results you would have momentum next season with a couple decent additions..
instead your fumbling across the finish line and look nowhere near where you should be. You should be doing much better than you are at present with the players at your disposal for sure.
big questions marks over Gerrard? 1 title in 3 years at rangers is very different to managing villa in PL, so it will be really interesting when he gets a full season and a summer backing.
Yeah it was strange wasn't it.I remember how he was lauded in media after one (1) game at Villa like he's the best thing since sliced bread.
