well, i wouldn't expect someone like you to appreciate a class player like ScholesStamford Bridge said:
Steven Gerrard - complete player?
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wancolos said:
That, we can agree on.
Where did I say he wasn't one of the best midfielders in the Prem?Stamford Bridge said:You've only mentioned one.
So he doesn't pass like Zidane (not that anyone does). Everyone can see that. He does have other redeeming qualities that make up for it.
Hence, he's still one of the best (just behind Lampard) midfielders in the Prem, and in Europe and only clueless Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime believe he's a "poor man's Roy Keane".
Gerrard is absolutely superb. Lampard is better though.
Gerrards better then Lampard
Mozza said:
While I did quote you, notice I wasn't referring to you as a clueless Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
His passing can be erratic, doesn't make him any less of a complete player.
Reflectorboy said:
He was a great player - in his prime.
But to say he's better than Gerrard now is comedic, to say the least.
Gerrard has more potential. I still think that at this point in time, Lampard is a better player.
Gerrard is absolutely fantastic, and there is very little that he can't do. On the other hand, I don't think there is anything in particular that he's absolutely brilliant at.
Gerrard is absolutely fantastic, and there is very little that he can't do. On the other hand, I don't think there is anything in particular that he's absolutely brilliant at.
It obviously does as his passing cant be trusted.Stamford Bridge said:
Mozza said:
So in other words, none of Ronaldo, Giggs or even Ferdinand are complete players as well.
None of them are complete players.Stamford Bridge said:
Yes, precisely. Again, a recurrent theme, jack of all trades, master of none.Namliam said:
All this "Gerrard isn't a complete player because his passing isn't amazing" is pointless.
Might as well say Ronaldinho and Zidane are useless because neither can tackle.
Might as well say Ronaldinho and Zidane are useless because neither can tackle.
Mozza said:
So because there's no one player good at everything (and there never has been throughout history) there's no such thing as a complete player then.
Reflectorboy said:
Still an absolutely brilliant player.
Some players are great because they're very good at certain things. Others are great players because they have no glaring weaknesses.
I can't think of a more complete player than Gerrard. To say that he's a poor man's Roy Keane is nonsense, although I do think Gerrard could be a little better at everything he does.
Reflectorboy said:
Even assuming that retarded oversimplification was true, it still doesn't make him a bad player.
You'll find that many managers prefer a player who is very at everything as opposed to a player who is brilliant at one thing and is rubbish at all the rest.
I never said that he is a bad player. He is a good player but overhyped.Stamford Bridge said:
Stamford Bridge said:
Well then they are twats. Gerrard could only dream of passing the ball as well as Scholes.
Carrick from what i've seen, is a better passer than GerrardParks Life said:
Reflectorboy said:
Almost all the best English players are overhyped to some extent.
Rooney? Very overhyped.
Lampard has also been overhyped, especially early season, then they all turned on him when he had his dip in form.
Even Henry could be accused of being overhyped.
So Gerrard's in good company then.
Stamford Bridge said:
Stupid twat.