Agreed mate. Vidic is a better defender than Terry, he has a bit more pace and his ability on the ball is underrated.
Terry: Zero tackling technique
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Carra the natural defenderSo true, not only that but Vidic himself hardly goes to ground at all, (except for last ditch blocks/clearances) his positioning is really underrated IMO and the fact that he rarely gets beaten even by pace shows that his positioning really is top notch.
My take on Terry is that he is a solid centre-back but has been made to look better than he is with the players around him. I hope that Ivanovic proves himself nicely in the absence of Alex and Terry.
Why would you hope that?
He's Serbian.
Ryan Giggs is great at it.
Dumb ass TV pundits. The "Gerrard is the best midfielder in the world" brigade.
Giggs is the master of the slide tackle.
I disagree on the tackle yesterday, Terry has that dirty aspect to his game and I do think there was some malice in that tackle. It's just that he's the English lion and captain and therefore his thuggery gets very little attention, instead he's applauded for his bravery 
Sure he's brave at certain times but he that's mostly due to his inability to see danger coming ahead of time and not being able to read the game as well as the likes of Rio, hence having to go into these last ditch tackles and what not a la Carragher. He's still a very good player, but a dirty one at that and of course a BIG MAN.
Sure he's brave at certain times but he that's mostly due to his inability to see danger coming ahead of time and not being able to read the game as well as the likes of Rio, hence having to go into these last ditch tackles and what not a la Carragher. He's still a very good player, but a dirty one at that and of course a BIG MAN.Didn't Terry get a straight red earlier this season? If he did, wouldn't that mean he gets a 5 match ban second time around?
I believe they successfully appealed against it.
I was at the Chelsea vs Arsenal game recently and in that match Terry made a two footed lunge on someone and got a yellow. It was definitely a red card but he got lucky cause he was at stamford bridge.
What a player! It must have been absolutely horrific to play against him in his prime.
Sagna. That was one of the worst tackles of the season. Shocking decision not to send him off.
Am I the only one who think Vidic is the best and most fecking accurate tackler on the planet? I haven't seen anyone like him really. Whenever he puts that tackle in and takes the ball it gets STUCK under his foot.
Terry's form has deteriorated over the last two seasons, before that he was top quality. I'm not sure why he got worse but probably the fact that he has a habit of coming back from injuries not fully healed and often plays through pain had something to do with it. The additional responsibility of being England's captain may also have been an additional stress to deal with.
The idea hat Carvalho makes Terry look better is probably correct but this principle can be applied to any central defensive pairing, the two have to complement each other.
The idea hat Carvalho makes Terry look better is probably correct but this principle can be applied to any central defensive pairing, the two have to complement each other.
Terry can come out less stupid in his two out of ten tackles.
Only Gerrard can do more worse.
Pun aside,he's basically an old fashioned blood and guts defender. As the names of Rio and Maldini are pointed in this thread, both are brilliant readers of the games , especially Maldini reserves this sliding tackle as only his last resort, hallmark of great defenders.
Terry he he.
Only Gerrard can do more worse.
Pun aside,he's basically an old fashioned blood and guts defender. As the names of Rio and Maldini are pointed in this thread, both are brilliant readers of the games , especially Maldini reserves this sliding tackle as only his last resort, hallmark of great defenders.
Terry he he.
Paolo his father is one of the cleanest tacklers I ever saw. Legend
Seedorf is shite.
Not necessarily - in no way does Terry make Carvalho look better, it's all one way in that pairing. And that's because while Ricardo is cutting everything out before it becomes a danger, Terry puts in a couple of hollywood style-lunging-last gasp tackles that fool the Chelsea fans and national press.
But otherwise I agree with you, definitely about Terry repeatedly coming back from injuries before he's actually healed and the danger of constantly playing through the pain (being a Big Man) - he's knackered his body, and while Rio could arguably play on into his mid to late 30s I think Terry will be lucky to play past 31/32.
Maldini...that man needs to have his Merit ranked up at least one more, to a 3rd class commander.
Sickening talk by Durham on talksport before.
Said we should excuse Terry for getting a red card, because he is the England Captain and we must support him as the whole country, no matter which club we support, should want England to win the world cup as it would change football and kept stressing that we must get behind Terry blah blah
Said we should excuse Terry for getting a red card, because he is the England Captain and we must support him as the whole country, no matter which club we support, should want England to win the world cup as it would change football and kept stressing that we must get behind Terry blah blah
This is what I was saying about his positioning. He gets into the positions where he will win the ball comfortably, but when he has to slide in he makes sure he gets the ball.
Yes thats the one. I got a free ticket to that game and I was basically right in front of that challenge. I can't believe it either - 100% straight red.
So we should let Terry do whatever he wants? Makes total sense........
I'm pretty sure what happens at talkSPORT (not all of the time but occasionally with some presenters, particularly Durham), is that one of them takes the obvious view (and probably his own personal one) and the other takes the complete opposite in order to be a WUM and get people calling in. I remember once when I used to listen to the station years ago, Durham conceded an argument (seriously!) at the end of one of his shows because he was laughing at how pathetic it was. Still I admire him for winding so many people up
Some of the stuff you say is true. John Terry is a poor enough tackler and there was absolutely no malice in his tackle with Osman.
But saying that slide tackles are only for a lumbering crap defender really are ridiculous. Vidic is United's best ball winner and he regularly goes to ground to win the ball. It's not because he is lumbering, it is sometimes the best way to tackle especially when you have to go through the player to win the ball. Cannavaro was the last defender to win World Player of the Year. His slide tackles are superb. They are a joy to watch. The technique of slide tackling is one of the most important aspects in defending.
As a defender, there is no more satisfying way of winning the ball either.
I have never heard that lad's show but from reading all the stuff about him on here he sounds like a fecking retard. So Terry should get away with whatever he wants just because he is England captain? That happened too much in the past with Alan Shearer. Enough is enough. That kind of tackle needs to be completely outlawed and the only way to do that is for players to receive tough disciplinary consequences.
any video links to the terry tackle?