Discuss.
That Pickford challenge on Maguire
- Thread starter devips
- Start date
Pen
He pushed Pickford. So no pen. But Pickford should get a yellow for his high kungfu kick.
Pickford went for the ball. Maguire appeared to hit the deck deliberately, which is disgraceful.
It's a penalty and a yellow, or a red card for Pickford.
Please. This is a non-discussion. Maguire’s hand in Pickfords chest is an obvious freekick before this situation happens.
Freekick but Pickford should of been sent off
There is always one.
It wasn't a challenge it was an assault
Has Pickford been watching tapes of Toni Schumacher circa 1982 over the past few weeks ?
Should have been a foul on the keeper by Maguire pushing him over... . Once thats not given its a clear foul x 2 on Maguire. Had a pen been given I think var would have given the foul on Pickford
Freekick and red/yellow 4 Pickford!
Maguire himself admitted he fouled Pickford and that it shouldn't have been a pen
Pickford is an awful goalkeeper. Even if Maguire didn't push him, he wasn't to know what the decision would be but he went in again with a high challenge.
He got lucky
He got lucky
You don't think that had anything to do with the fact that they are England team mates?
It is bloody foul on Pickford ffs. And it is obvious from space. So penalty is not an option.
But his idiotic challenges on players must stop. It was borderline red card
But his idiotic challenges on players must stop. It was borderline red card
Maguire fouls first, albeit soft. Pickford fouls second, neither spotted
Surely you can do better than a bland cliche. What's your point? I've watched the incident from two angles and given my objective assessment.
Pen and red for Pickford
He could have been killed.
(but he pushed Pickford first so I can see why it wasn't given)
(but he pushed Pickford first so I can see why it wasn't given)
Pickford is extremely reckless at times. At best it concedes costly goals, at worse it can, and has, caused severe injury.
As for that incident... Maguire fouled first, but Pickford still acted recklessly and dangerously.
As for that incident... Maguire fouled first, but Pickford still acted recklessly and dangerously.
This. The first foul was obviously Maguire pushing Pickford in the chest just as he catches the ball. But Pickford, and perhaps Keane as well, should be getting a yellow for their attempted blocks which both ended up kicking Maguire after the ball was gone. It wasn't bad enough for a red but it was obviously a yellow.
How could anyone (even the most die-hard of Maguire and United fans) suggest that Pickford deserves a red for that is beyond me.
As others have said, it wasn't a pen because Maguire was guilty of fouling him initially. At most Pickford should have got a yellow.
Shocking how our respective biases can really skew our perception of reality.
As others have said, it wasn't a pen because Maguire was guilty of fouling him initially. At most Pickford should have got a yellow.
Shocking how our respective biases can really skew our perception of reality.
Ok nobody can beat Toni. Out to destroy other players. Pickford is more brainlessly and recklessly desperate in his attempts to stop goals.
Not a pen, pretty sure the official won't gives us penalties as much as we got last season. They gave us pen in first 3 consecutive games.
Maguire should just head the ball instead, even if he missed the reff would called it a high boots foul.
Maguire should just head the ball instead, even if he missed the reff would called it a high boots foul.
Maguire pushed that imbecile first but that kick he did afterwards (Keane also went in dirty) was cnutish and I hope he gets what he deserved soon.
Foul for Pickford but red card also for what he did afterwards
He did....they lost!
Nah mate, that tackle deserved much worse than a lost game, someone will give him a stud in the face soon enough.He did....they lost!
No pen. But a clear red.
Any gif / videos to watch it again?
A bit too dramatic here.I don’t think that warrants a red card. It’s obviously for the ball and it’s not that dangerous. Yellow I agree, but VAR is not used for yellows, which I’m quite happy with.
It was a wild challenge from Pickford, the push from Maguire means it was not going to be a penalty but surely the keeper should have been sanctioned for dangerous play.
Pickford is brainlessly reckless, dangerously so. The VVD challenge was a full frontal assault which he somehow escaped punishment for, and the wild kick at Maguire was no different.
He simply didn’t get good enough contact on Maguire’s knee otherwise that’s a torn meniscus at best, a season ending ligament injury like VVD’s at worst.
I hope referees are educating themselves on his propensity for these sorts of wild lunges because right now he’s averaging one challenge like that a game and unless he starts getting red carded for these lunges it’s only a matter of time before he ruptures someone else’s ACL.
He simply didn’t get good enough contact on Maguire’s knee otherwise that’s a torn meniscus at best, a season ending ligament injury like VVD’s at worst.
I hope referees are educating themselves on his propensity for these sorts of wild lunges because right now he’s averaging one challenge like that a game and unless he starts getting red carded for these lunges it’s only a matter of time before he ruptures someone else’s ACL.
If the challenge had resulted in a serious injury for Maguire, everyone including VAR would have given him a red. As it didn't, it was probably closer to an orange with a pen. He was panicking and completely out of control.
Can we get a clip of it in here?
Was it actually Pickford who lashed him, or was it the defender?
This is why injury severity can't be the decider about the punishment.
Pretty much this.
Though I would say that Maguire probably didn't have to push him as Pickford would have probably fecked it anyway.
And if he had never pushed him I don't think VAR would have even given a penalty because its run by incompetent morons