Fair points.No. That logic doesn't hold true at all. The fact that guns can kill at range allows people to kill in a far more impersonal way. There's less of a mental barrier to going on a killing spree than there would be if you had to go out and stab a bunch of people. Plus you have a method for instantaneous painless suicide at the end of it all. Not an option when you've just run over someone in your car.
But there is evidence that almost all of these shooters are on some kind of psychiatric meds.Re mental illness, there's zero evidence that America has uniquely high rates of mental illness. They do tend to over-medicate but to infer from that these drugs randomly turn people into homicidal maniacs is a massive leap of faith.
Oh.I could be wrong but the domestic violence is because she targeted her boyfriend not because she might be a victim of domestic violence.
Is there? And even if every one of them is on psych meds you could still be confusing cause and effect. You have to be a deeply unhappy person to go off on a killing spree, so who's to say the meds weren't prescribed appropriately but only ended up delaying the inevitable? I mean it's actually possible that there would be more of these mass shootings if it wasn't for the intervention of psychiatric services.Fair points.
But there is evidence that almost all of these shooters are on some kind of psychiatric meds.
Not trying to deflect or anything here, I agree that America needs much stricter gun laws. It's the combination of state altering meds and guns that makes it such an explosive coctail imo.
They have probably the same psychiatric rates as anyone ekse, just that the sick have free access to guns.But there is evidence that almost all of these shooters are on some kind of psychiatric meds.
Not trying to deflect or anything here, I agree that America needs much stricter gun laws. It's the combination of state altering meds and guns that makes it such an explosive coctail imo.
Who knows. But surely it's worth taking a deeper look at it?Is there? And even if every one of them is on psych meds you could still be confusing cause and effect. You have to be a deeply unhappy person to go off on a killing spree, so who's to say the meds weren't prescribed appropriately but only ended up delaying the inevitable? I mean it's actually possible that there would be more of these mass shootings if it wasn't for the intervention of psychiatric services.
For sure. It's a bit of a red herring though. Every country should do its utmost to protect the mental health of its citizens. That should be a goal which is completely independent from the need to protect them from being shot, though. So it's irrelevant in the context of gun control.Who knows. But surely it's worth taking a deeper look at it?
I agree. I know somebody on psych meds and they are stable while they take them but you can see when they are skipping their medication.Is there? And even if every one of them is on psych meds you could still be confusing cause and effect. You have to be a deeply unhappy person to go off on a killing spree, so who's to say the meds weren't prescribed appropriately but only ended up delaying the inevitable? I mean it's actually possible that there would be more of these mass shootings if it wasn't for the intervention of psychiatric services.
NRA backed congress members won't put any money towards a CDC study into gun violence, so that's why the NRA takes the blunt of the issue.Who knows. But surely it's worth taking a deeper look at it?
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Which is the crux of the issue really.They have probably the same psychiatric rates as anyone ekse, just that the sick have free access to guns.
Sorting guns out is a easier problem. Mental Health is a catch all phrase to nobody doing nothing for a problems that essentially is not solvable.When you know your mental health issues are big and your country isn't doing enough to sort it out, giving the sick access to guns is basically saying to natural selection 'have at it'.
A) Agreed.It might just be me but a megathread for this feels wrong.
It feels like it's diminishing the importance of individual incidents by lumping them all in as a collective.A) Agreed.
B) Every time its bumped because people are having a conversation about gun control it just makes me think 'Oh another one?'
100% and that is an awful thing to say, but very true.It feels like it's diminishing the importance of individual incidents by lumping them all in as a collective.
Agree, although common let's not triviliaze it to such extent.It might just be me but a megathread for this feels wrong.
Sadly though, the idiots not doing anything about it and just giving out thoughts and prayers whilst spooning their guns are doing the diminishing.It feels like it's diminishing the importance of individual incidents by lumping them all in as a collective.
