NinjaFletch
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I've made this point in a few threads now and I feel like it needs its own one. For all the bitching and moaning about Mourinho I'm still struck by just how ordinary we look on paper.
How many of our players have, in their careers, shown themselves to be unambiguously amongst the best players in their respective positions in the world either at United or elsewhere? For my money the answer to that question is depressing and instructive about the cause of the issues we have here.
I find it very hard to include anyone other than David De Gea and Alexis Sanchez in that conversation. Everyone else, and I include Pogba in this, came to the club with question marks over them or parts of their game they needed to improve to step up to the level. In Pogba's case he needed to demonstrate he could be the main man without having his hand held by the generational talents next to him.
We some talented players who may, one day, reach that level – although it depresses me how short this list is – in Martial, Rashford, Lukaku, Bailly, Shaw, Pogba.
We can add to this, probably, players who are very good, but not in that elite bracket: Matic, Jones, perhaps Valencia before this season started, and maybe Mata.
That leaves half a team of players who have shown little evidence to suggest they might become the required standard including a huge chunk of the spine and the entire right hand side.
I really fail to see, even if Mourinho gets sent on his way, how that's going to improve overnight in the way some seem to think it will. It didn't happen when people were making the same arguments about Van Gaal.
We have fundamentally recruited awfully across several managers back into Ferguson's tenure, and until we address that and get start buying better I don't see how the teams ever going to live up to the sky high expectations that the fans have of the team.
How many of our players have, in their careers, shown themselves to be unambiguously amongst the best players in their respective positions in the world either at United or elsewhere? For my money the answer to that question is depressing and instructive about the cause of the issues we have here.
I find it very hard to include anyone other than David De Gea and Alexis Sanchez in that conversation. Everyone else, and I include Pogba in this, came to the club with question marks over them or parts of their game they needed to improve to step up to the level. In Pogba's case he needed to demonstrate he could be the main man without having his hand held by the generational talents next to him.
We some talented players who may, one day, reach that level – although it depresses me how short this list is – in Martial, Rashford, Lukaku, Bailly, Shaw, Pogba.
We can add to this, probably, players who are very good, but not in that elite bracket: Matic, Jones, perhaps Valencia before this season started, and maybe Mata.
That leaves half a team of players who have shown little evidence to suggest they might become the required standard including a huge chunk of the spine and the entire right hand side.
I really fail to see, even if Mourinho gets sent on his way, how that's going to improve overnight in the way some seem to think it will. It didn't happen when people were making the same arguments about Van Gaal.
We have fundamentally recruited awfully across several managers back into Ferguson's tenure, and until we address that and get start buying better I don't see how the teams ever going to live up to the sky high expectations that the fans have of the team.