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That's exactly what I expect from the SA draft!There are conspiracy theories as well behind the whole saga. Few of the sources claim that, clever Teófilo Salinas had already refrigerated the urn containing the Peru’s ballot and Veronica was instructed to choose the cooler one. Two of the Peruvian players, **** and ****, years later commented once about the cold-ball scandal – “I am not aware, but the legend says that Salinas began to cool the ballot before the draw and the girl picked up the cooler. The important thing is that Peru was in the final and everything else is speculation.”
That's exactly what I expect from the SA draft!
The lesson to learn from these stories is that corruption works behind the scenes, not on a pitch during a game!
Time to submit a Swede born in the USA to know whether Chester is corruptible.
(They finally paid me a decent amount this time - stingy bastards).
Godin will go down as top 3 Uruguayan defender of all time when he's done.I'd reckon there still are better CBs in Pool 2 better than Godin and Silva.
leave it with me, i will be online for at least another hourI'm off to bed, can I leave my pick with someone?
Dunno about Silva but Godin truly has the credentials of someone you'd expect to be a top dog of his generation, which is a huge deal given how attacker friendly this generation is. More than once he has marshalled his troops while leading from the front with success against teams like Bayern, Barca and Madrid, which contain you-know-whos. Can't really ask more of anyone.I'd reckon there still are better CBs in Pool 2 better than Godin and Silva.
Couldn't agree more .Dunno about Silva but Godin truly has the credentials of someone you'd expect to be a top dog of his generation, which is a huge deal given how attacker friendly this generation is. More than once he has marshalled his troops while leading from the front with success against teams like Bayern, Barca and Madrid, which contain you-know-whos. Can't really ask more of anyone.
Exceptional leader, with a tremendous array of moments of greatness on both club and national level. Scored the goal that won Atletico the title which was one of the greatest team achievements of the modern era, given the other two teams they had to beat. Scored in the Champions League final, got as close as you would to a win. Even though it didn't matter in the end, it was his goal that got Uruguay through the group stages at the World Cup. Atletico have largely been hailed as one of the best defenses if not the best of the modern era and they have a lot to thank to this man.
Nevermind the array of top defensive qualities that he has up his sleeve, he's the best centre back of the modern era, and has the resume to comfortably stand next to the best defenders of the previous era and the ones before that, after standing up against some of the greatest attackers of his generation at the highest level time and again. Let alone Pool 2, he's right up there with anyone in this draft, really, unless it's gonna be a typical case of a recent player being underrated. Sure he has not finished his career but we discuss peaks and his peak is there for everyone to see.
Doubt that. He's very highly rated. Plus, I think for many neutrals being contemporary actually works in his favour: He stands out for many as a genuinely top class defender in an era where lesser players have been hailed as such (that is the view of many - and, I would say, a very common view among drafters).Let alone Pool 2, he's right up there with anyone in this draft, really, unless it's gonna be a typical case of a recent player being underrated.
So, would you rate him higher than, say Rio Ferdinand (who is my current standard for modern CBs)?has the resume to comfortably stand next to the best defenders of the previous era and the ones before that, after standing up against some of the greatest attackers of his generation at the highest level time and again.
I doubt he'd be rated higher than Santamaria or Nasazzi in all time standard, best is a 3rd place...but then there are not many competitors for that place, tbh.Godin will go down as top 3 Uruguayan defender of all time when he's done.
One of the most difficult tasks I can remember in my time as a football fan is breaking up the Real Madrid Barcelona duopoly (somewhat , 2 CL finals and a la liga in last 3 years is good enough for me )I doubt he'd be rated higher than Santamaria or Nasazzi in all time standard, best is a 3rd place...but then there are not many competitors for that place, tbh.
Send it in.going off, who can take boris pick?
Not sure that I agree and I can understand if someone decides to go with a player they've seen regularly.I'd reckon there still are better CBs in Pool 2 better than Godin and Silva.
Nah, highly doubt it and it wasn't just pool 2 that was in consideration when we made that pick tbh.I'd reckon there still are better CBs in Pool 2 better than Godin and Silva.
Which is why DavidG said top 3 .I doubt he'd be rated higher than Santamaria or Nasazzi in all time standard, best is a 3rd place...but then there are not many competitors for that place, tbh.
Arguably the best post Rio period for me.So, would you rate him higher than, say Rio Ferdinand (who is my current standard for modern CBs)?
Well can the same logic be used to say, the modern generation of attackers aren't as great (your words, not mine) thus being the best of the lot isn't as impressive for Messi and Ronaldo? Sound ridiculous but hey ho. Either way let's take a look at Godin's career.Modern generation of CBs are nothing compared to earlier generations, and saying he's best of a bad lot is nothing great......and I say that just to counter your "modern great" argument...not to underrate him.
He's also been brilliant on the demanding Champions League stage too, where Atleti conceded 6 goals en route to the final of the 13/14 season in 12 games; 5 goals in 10 games in the 14/15 season where they were knocked out by Real by a solitary goal; 8 goals in 13 games during the 15/16 season where they made the final once again. Now the group stages no doubt pad up these stats, so let's take the knock-out ties in isolation. He was ever present in the Atleti side during the 13-14 K/O stages, with Atleti conceding just 3 goals in 6 knockout ties en route to the final, with 3 clean sheets. Atleti conceded a last minute equaliser in the final before their tired and depleted side collapsed 4-1 in extra time. Likewise 2 clean sheets and 2 goals conceded in 4 knock-out ties in 14/15 where they were knocked out by Real 1-0 in the quarters. 4 clean sheets in 7 knockout ties in 15/16 with just 5 goals conceded as they made the final. Goes without saying but, Atletico and Godin proved their mettle against some of the best sides (Barcelona, Chelsea, Real, Bayern etc) and best players in the world constantly in the Champions League. Oh and of course, Godin made the squad of the tournament in the CL twice during this period, as one of the best defensive performers.Football365 said:Gabi might be Atleti’s captain, but there is no doubting Diego Simeone’s on-pitch figurehead. “Without Godin we lose a leader,” Simeone said when the centre-half suffered a slight hamstring injury in April. “He is a really important man within the group.” Godin missed two away league games in the final two months of the season; Atleti lost them both (at Levante and Sporting Gijon). Four points from those two games and Spain’s other elite club would have won La Liga for the second time in three years.
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Great picks.Jose M Moreno
Take the player whose style of play matches with your philosophy!MounchesterUtd 1. Chilavert 2. Rivelino 3. Vidal
Need someone's opinion on my next pick. Should I go for an attacking player or a defender? What position to fill in next?
On the average, do the teams that make it far in these drafts tend to be more offensive or defensive?Take the player whose style of play matches with your philosophy!