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He's better than Elanga, we need depth across the midfield and forward line.So can Rashford and Elanga, but that doesn't mean they should.
He's better than Elanga, we need depth across the midfield and forward line.So can Rashford and Elanga, but that doesn't mean they should.
Take it you mean as in before end of window,should get him on loan then sign permanently in the summerMarcus Thuram is the guy I would go for now all things considered. The guy is a decent CF, can play right wing and is also cheap.
Tielemans lack of mobility scares me, but I think we can find a backup to Casemiro cheap. Just have to risk buying a South American like Ajax did with Edson Alvarez, or be clever like Brentford grabbing Norgaard off of Fiorentina’s bench. Jefferson Lerma is on a free but seems to have dropped a level, or I would have said he’d be okay. But there are always solid DMs around who can be bought for 15M.Some sensible suggestions there, although as you mentioned right up top, maybe too much still on Eriksen. Thats where Tielemans on a free can really help us, and can switch for Eriksen without a substantial drop in quality. However, arguably it is the Eriksen position that we should be spending big (FDJ?) and then bring in cover for Casemiro. The issue is I can't see any cheap DMs out there. Alternatively we could bring in Enzo Fernandez as the number 8 / cover for 6, and then Tielemans would be the cover for number 8 and Eriksen cover for Bruno.
He's another left forward and it's the only position where we don't need reinforcements bar left back.don’t really understand why we seemingly weren’t interested in Danjuma on loan. Would have been a solid squad player
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If we bring in someone cheaper like Thuram, Dembele or Zaha on a free or a young #9 like Sesko, with an eye to Kane or a big striker in 2024 and Havertz goes to Germany and lights it up, could he be the next Salah/De Bruyne, failing at Chelsea when he was still quite young and then going to another Prem team?
People are against Zaha because he flopped here, but if Ten Hag is only given 100M and wants to spend it on one of De Jong/Caicedo/Rice/Enzo, then at gunpoint I think I’d take Zaha over Thuram or Dembele. He can turn players like Martial does when back to goal and he’s more of a pure threat than Martial. 31 in 82 for Palace the last 3 years and that includes lots of LW games.
I’ve said this a few times that I’d take Zaha on a free as he’s versatile, consistent, pacey, holds the ball up well, links play well and plays for the team. If we were to get one of Kane or Osimhen and Zaha then moved Martial on as even though he’s a perfect fit he’s always injured.People are against Zaha because he flopped here, but if Ten Hag is only given 100M and wants to spend it on one of De Jong/Caicedo/Rice/Enzo, then at gunpoint I think I’d take Zaha over Thuram or Dembele. He can turn players like Martial does when back to goal and he’s more of a pure threat than Martial. 31 in 82 for Palace the last 3 years and that includes lots of LW games.
Don’t think Ten Hag will care about him flopping here damn near a decade ago. Also Thuram’s dad says he wants to play for Barca and they need a backup for Lewandowski and need free transfers, so we might be looking at guys who would cost 10-20M and be fliers. Is there a better option than Zaha if that’s the budget?
Be greedy let's get Benzema & OsimhenThink a very wise approach would be to try and get both Benzema and Sesko in the summer and move Martial on. Benzema is out of contract and the perfect age profile for a Sesko succession plan too.
Benzema with no transfer fee and Sesko for 60m would be a good summer’s work in the CF department. Get the best striker now, and the best of tomorrow all at once.
That would make far less sense.Be greedy let's get Benzema & Osimhen
Isn't Benz just going to be resigned?Think a very wise approach would be to try and get both Benzema and Sesko in the summer and move Martial on. Benzema is out of contract and the perfect age profile for a Sesko succession plan too.
Benzema with no transfer fee and Sesko for 60m would be a good summer’s work in the CF department. Get the best striker now, and the best of tomorrow all at once.
Still think Toney could be made an example of when you see how many betting chargesIsn't Benz just going to be resigned?
In another thread I posited going after Toney and Sesko instead of just spunking the budget on one big name striker. Think Toney would be great for us and wouldn't be so high profile that we'd have an issue rotating Sesko in as the Greenwood replacement
Yeah obviously it's all contingent on what the outcome of that is.Still think Toney could be made an example of when you see how many betting charges
What's your gut feeling on the outcomeYeah obviously it's all contingent on what the outcome of that is.
I always feel that Zaha is more a moment kind of player rather than system player. Our manager has his own system and I'm not sure if he fits into the manager's system.People are against Zaha because he flopped here, but if Ten Hag is only given 100M and wants to spend it on one of De Jong/Caicedo/Rice/Enzo, then at gunpoint I think I’d take Zaha over Thuram or Dembele. He can turn players like Martial does when back to goal and he’s more of a pure threat than Martial. 31 in 82 for Palace the last 3 years and that includes lots of LW games.
Don’t think Ten Hag will care about him flopping here damn near a decade ago. Also Thuram’s dad says he wants to play for Barca and they need a backup for Lewandowski and need free transfers, so we might be looking at guys who would cost 10-20M and be fliers. Is there a better option than Zaha if that’s the budget?
Yeah actually you are right Benzema only makes sense if we get a prospect striker like RamosThat would make far less sense.
That's fair, though I'm not sure he's really had the chance to play in a system since he matured into a proper goal scorer (31 in 82 over the last 3 years is pretty decent considering there's games played at LW and Palace lack real top half of the table level passing apart from Eze, Olise and Andersen). Vieira is doing a good job, but they still just play on the counter a lot and he hasn't actually found a clear lineup. Their talented CBs and overall work ethic and moments from Zaha, Olise and Eze are pretty much the sum of the team.I always feel that Zaha is more a moment kind of player rather than system player. Our manager has his own system and I'm not sure if he fits into the manager's system.
I agree. I think ETH likes his striker to drop short and link play.More I think about it and watch his highlights, the more I think it's Goncalo Ramos. Just looks like he can score goals while doing all the back to goal link up stuff that doomed Cristiano and has made Martial and Weghorst look decent fits in the system. Very good goal record as a youth and now as a pro. Kane can too, of course, but papers say he might stay now.
My guess is like 70M since he's 21 and a striker but not quite seen as an elite player and only 2 years left on his deal. Maybe 55M and Pellistri or Elanga or something even.I agree. I think ETH likes his striker to drop short and link play.
Ramos seems to be an all rounder . I wonder what his market value is
There is no way to get Kolo Muani for 40m in the summer. There are plausible reports that Frankfurt would start negotiations with a 100m demand, realistic fee would probably be somewhere around 70-80m, simply because he has a long contract and Frankfurt doesn't need or want to sell under that circumstances.40M budget
1 - Sign someone in their early prime for 40M like Muani or David to be the #1
We don't own Weghorst.This is oversimplifying, but I see 3 conceivable options here, depending on budget and then how much we spend elsewhere:
New owner, insane budget:
1) Kane
2) Martial stays as backup
3) Sign a teenager, good chance it's from South America, to learn on the job or maybe go on loan for a year in Europe
75-100M budget
1) Ramos, Kane or Osimhen
2) Martial or Weghorst stays, the other goes, depending on Ten Hag's view of Martial health
60M budget
1 - Sign someone in their early prime for 40M like Muani or David to be the #1
2 - Sell Martial or let Weghorst go, depending on Ten Hag's view of Martial health
3 - Sign a teenager, good chance it's from South America, to learn on the job or maybe go on loan for a year in Europe
40M budget
1 - Sign someone in their early prime for 40M like Muani or David to be the #1
2 - Sell Weghorst and keep Martial since we have a clear #1 now and can risk Martial's fitness less by playing him less and getting better production than we get out of Weghorst for now
Damn, I'm still getting used to how expensive strikers are now.There is no way to get Kolo Muani for 40m in the summer. There are plausible reports that Frankfurt would start negotiations with a 100m demand, realistic fee would probably be somewhere around 70-80m, simply because he has a long contract and Frankfurt doesn't need or want to sell under that circumstances.
Right, I got it right once but wrong the other time.We don't own Weghorst.
I'd agree if he wasn't such a sick note. I'm also not convinced you wouldn't have to pay a king's ransom even if Everton were relegated for him which would make it just too risky.If Everton get relegated, I think Calvert-Lewin would be a very smart signing - he wouldn't demand a starting place, is English and would settle in well, knows the Premier League and is a pretty tidy player. With him and let's say Osimhem as our primary target, we'd be set for years and could offload both Weghorst and Martial
Not necessarily, ETH could rely on Rashford or Greenwood as cover in the middle.Interesting with the news of us looking to offload Martial in the summer. Would mean us signing two strikers in the summer surely?
We can discuss this now?Not necessarily, ETH could rely on Rashford or Greenwood as cover in the middle.
We now have eight squad players effectively competing for three positions. Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho, Martial, Weghorst (loaned in), Antony, Greenwood, Pellestri and Amad (loaned out) is probably more depth than ETH would want. Swap Martial for Kane or Osimhen, and the issue is that Amad for Weghorst leaves one dedicated striker and only Rashford and Greenwood for cover. Is that enough, or would we want a second number 9? I could see us selling Amad and buying a cheap South American number 9. I wouldn't mind us bringing in Sesko or Evan Ferguson in a couple of years as cover.
Yeah but him being cleared still feels unlikelyIf toney gets cleared of betting charges then he would seem like a level headed signing vs the crazy fee for osimhen or messing around with trying to negotiate with levy for an unambitious kane who seems content to give up on winning trophies and play it safe and stay at spurs
That ship has sailed. He’ll stay at Chelsea 99%, we dropped the ball here.Also worth remembering Felix is only on loan and I don’t see why he couldn’t be an option in the summer for those favouring a more all round link up striker.