- Feb 26, 2019
The media can keep talking. What matters is Martial has Ole's backing
Agreed and all our moves for strikers in the market have factored that as well ,before anyone say Halland he was a youngster available for a great price who straight away wouldn't have commanded the starting spot but now with Martial repaying the faith shown by Ole and Halland proving to be great at Dortmund I don't think we will make move for him unless Martial is moved on which is highly unlikely given how is developing.The media can keep talking. What matters is Martial has Ole's backing
He actually has a poor football knowledge. Very few teams have that traditional number nine and for what Kane will cost, we could totally transform our squad.He favours a more traditional number 9. It's hardly a controversial viewpoint. He conceded that Ole doesn't want to play that way. Not sure why people get so upset about it.
I don’t think Kane is better. And even if he is, will this still be the case in 2 years, 4 years, and more? Kane is 27 and has an ever growing injury record. He was better two years ago than he is now. Martial still has his best years ahead of him.Was another thread needed for this?
Martial has been very good this season. Is Kane a better player? Yes.
Are Man Utd going to buy Kane? No.
Is there an agenda against Martial? No.
Wow! Good to see you have joined martial fc. Only @mitchmouse remains to be converted.I've been among Martial's harshest critics but after 23 goals and much improved consistency showing his best, an improvement in hold-up play and brilliant chemistry, it's so obvious he should be trusted as our 9 going forward. No idea how media feckwits point to Martial needing replacement at this time.
My crazy conspiracy theory is that they have a fetish of seeing English darling Harry Kane at United and wont let go of it.
Realistically, given price and age, I wouldn’t either. The investment needed for Kane would be eye watering. However, I still think Kane is a better player, that’s not to say I’m unhappy with Martial.based on this season? debatable
I wouldn’t trade Martial for Kane
Disagree, they are very different players, and I think Kane brings more to a team than Martial. But as before, I’m not suggesting we get rid of Martial, just objectively I think Kane is better.Better finisher? Yes
Better player? Absolutely not!
Kane is what 3 years older than Martial?He is better his record speaks for itself but the question is for how much and what are the chances of him maintaining his level given that he has had a rough couple of seasons with injuries?
I think for the next couple of years Martial is alright and if he builds on this season then he will be in the elite category by then.
I doubt the football intelligence of someone who has seen us play this season, pre and post lockdown, who has seen what we have to put up with when Bruno, Matic, Pogba, Shaw and Maguire are out and then suddenly conclude that we should replace Martial.
I think Kane is a better player.I don’t think Kane is better. And even if he is, will this still be the case in 2 years, 4 years, and more? Kane is 27 and has an ever growing injury record. He was better two years ago than he is now. Martial still has his best years ahead of him.
Its a biased view of the British Media who always think foreign players are not good enough. I personally don't see any justification as to why English players must be expensive because they are English. It is a widely accepted view in the premier league yet it has no proper reasoning behind it other than some form of superiority complex. The pundits on TV are lazy in their analysis thats why you see people like Pogba get more criticism because he doesn't conform to the stereotype of a British footballer, running at 100 miles per hour and tackling hard. Martial is not gonna run like a headless chicken, but uses skill and football intelligence to score goals. That is not good for the British pundit. He needs to run all the time on the pitch. Its all about pace, pace and pace according to them. However am not surprised with this attitude. We are a country who voted for Brexit because we think less of others.It feels like every other day there’s a new “expert” in the media saying Martial isn’t good enough & needs replacing. Just in the last day we’ve seen Paul Scholes go on BT & say Harry Kane should be a bigger priority than Sancho because “United need a real number 9” and Paul Merson on sky sports saying that Martial isn’t reliable & we should replace with Kane. I’ve seen Savage, Murphy, Ince, and the like all come out with the same narrative.
What is going on here? Because these 2 aren’t isolated incidents. I see it all the time. Are these “pundits” even watching us play? Martial has been our most consistent forward this season, has 23 goals despite 2 months out & not taking pens. Yet it’s always him who the media call to be replaced. You really do have to question wether how nationality is playing a part here?
Don’t get me wrong Kane is a very good player, but he’s starting to develop a questionable injury record & I don’t think he would fit our forward as well as Martial does. He certainly shouldn’t be our “top priority” like Scholes thinks. Loved him as a player but he’s clueless at times as a pundit
Is Kane really better though? Based on this season?Martial has been very good this season. Is Kane a better player? Yes.
Because Harry Kane is that type of footballer? If people actually listened to everything Scholes said he talked about how Martial has improved his desire to get in and score goals. Which is true and something Solskjaer has talked about countless times about wanting to see his strikers getting in the six yard box and getting the scrappy goals. Kane does that. Martial needs to keep improving at that.It's not really about whether he is rated or not, its about the lack of understanding about who a No 9 is and what a No9 should do.
It's like you're not a CF unless you're 6'3, 100kg and spend eternity within in the box.
England supporters care about England, not Manchester United.The media and pundits just want to bask in the greatness of Kane, but know that England's best striker since Shearer, is likely to end with an even more sparse trophy cabinet than their previous diety.
Thus leaving a question mark over how great he can be considered.
Lane will likely finish his career with no big titles, and the nagging regret that Levy priced him out of a move, when it was still possible.
Well it isn't England fans that we are discussing. The media and pundits are a different entity to the ABU fans.England supporters care about England, not Manchester United.
If anything, they'd rather Kane didn't come here, because they don't want to see any more trophies end up at Old Trafford.
Aside from more goals which has been marginal as evident by this season playing in CF, he doesn't bring anything more.Realistically, given price and age, I wouldn’t either. The investment needed for Kane would be eye watering. However, I still think Kane is a better player, that’s not to say I’m unhappy with Martial.
Disagree, they are very different players, and I think Kane brings more to a team than Martial. But as before, I’m not suggesting we get rid of Martial, just objectively I think Kane is better.
There's an ABU bias in the English media. The last thing they want is an England star sullying his name by associating with Manchester United. Everybody knows how much stick England players get in the press when they play for us in between international games.Well it isn't England fans that we are discussing. The media and pundits are a different entity to the ABU fans.