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The Daredevil Draft | Winner - Enigma
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@Ecstatic scrap what I said before and let's play on Wednesday.
I've sent mine for tomorrow's match.
Sorry for my late reply. Let's do it on Wednesday then, and if you feel the need to change the day, no worries >>> let me know
Good luck mate
Piet Keizer
Breaking through into the senior Ajax team in 1960, when the Dutch professional game was in it's very infancy, Keizer was one of their star young players and had made the Dutch national team by 1962, having helped his club win the Dutch Cup the season previous. However, an horrific injury fractured his skull, caused blood clots, and nearly killed Piet in 1964 nearly ended Keizer's career, and in his absence the club had their worst ever season, flirting with relegation until a change in management to Rinus Michels, who was a big fan of another youngster at the team who he would make a regular alongside Keizer - Johan Cruyff.
The following season with Keizer back, he and Cruyff - 'The Royal Pair' - combined for 54 goals and were the spark behind Ajax winning the Eriedivise. They would repeat this feat the next season, but their biggest accomplishment that year was a taste of what was to come as they eliminated Bill Shankley's Liverpool from Europe 7-3 on aggregate (winning 5-1 in Amsterdam), putting their country on the map in this regard. Their third consecutive Dutch title would come in 1968, and in 1969 they made it the whole way to the final, but were outdone by the experience of AC Milan.
It was in the early 1970s though, that Ajax were to make their stamp on the history of the game, with three European Cups in a row from 1971-73. Keizer was one of the key players in this run, the ying to Cruyff's yang, and the more respected of the two amongst teammates who voted him as captain over Johan (resulting him Cruyff's ego forcing him to leave for Barcelona). In this same time they had won their fourth, fifth and sixth Eriedivise titles, and third, fourth and fifth Dutch Cups of Keizer's time there. His ability to run rings around defences and play a defense-splitting pass, or to scorch down the touchline and put in a perfect cross for a teammate made him a vital member of the team, and his intelligence to fill holes left by others and pick up the ball in a number of positions were pre-eminent features of the 'total football' system that came to the fore in his time at Ajax.
Those who saw both play, or indeed even played with them, often debate over the question of how Cruyff and Keizer compare, with Keizer's supporters making claim that Michels liked to pick favourites, particularly with Cruyff, and as such relegated Keizer to the shadows. Michels was known for dropping or selling players off the back of just the shortest periods of poor form, or deviance from his plans, but Keizer was too valuable to do so with. The two reportedly went years without speaking to each other, and Keizer famously danced on the tables of his father-in-law's pub, the Oesterbar, upon the news that the manager had left Ajax in 1971. Cruyff also had the 'look' to make him the star/face of the team while also playing a slightly more electrifying style of play compared to Keizer's creative precision and preference to slow down, then speed up, the pace of the game, which would have played into his favour in terms of public perception. Whether true or not, the fact that there was so much debate over who was the better of the two speaks volumes of Keizer's abilities on the pitch.
1971 Balon d'Or 9th place
1972 Balon d'Or 5th place.
David Winner said:
Velibor Vasovic said:
Barry Hulshoff said:
Cruyff before Cruyff', a one club man, one of Ajax's finest ever players who in his prime was on the same level as his more famous teammate Johan Cruyff, and one of Holland's finest ever players, Piet Keizer is often shrouded in mystery due to his enigmatic nature. A strained relationship with manager Rinus Michels saw Keizer feature very little in the famous Dutch side of 1974 that made it to the World Cup final, which is somewhat emblematic of his career - this is after all, the same guy who announced his immediate retirement on a Dutch talk show, and refused to kick a ball for decades after (even walking away from a stray ball, rather than kicking it back into play when watching a youth game years later). He retired with 146 goals in 365 games for the club, but his creating for others was where he really excelled:Nico Scheepmaker said:
Breaking through into the senior Ajax team in 1960, when the Dutch professional game was in it's very infancy, Keizer was one of their star young players and had made the Dutch national team by 1962, having helped his club win the Dutch Cup the season previous. However, an horrific injury fractured his skull, caused blood clots, and nearly killed Piet in 1964 nearly ended Keizer's career, and in his absence the club had their worst ever season, flirting with relegation until a change in management to Rinus Michels, who was a big fan of another youngster at the team who he would make a regular alongside Keizer - Johan Cruyff.
The following season with Keizer back, he and Cruyff - 'The Royal Pair' - combined for 54 goals and were the spark behind Ajax winning the Eriedivise. They would repeat this feat the next season, but their biggest accomplishment that year was a taste of what was to come as they eliminated Bill Shankley's Liverpool from Europe 7-3 on aggregate (winning 5-1 in Amsterdam), putting their country on the map in this regard. Their third consecutive Dutch title would come in 1968, and in 1969 they made it the whole way to the final, but were outdone by the experience of AC Milan.
It was in the early 1970s though, that Ajax were to make their stamp on the history of the game, with three European Cups in a row from 1971-73. Keizer was one of the key players in this run, the ying to Cruyff's yang, and the more respected of the two amongst teammates who voted him as captain over Johan (resulting him Cruyff's ego forcing him to leave for Barcelona). In this same time they had won their fourth, fifth and sixth Eriedivise titles, and third, fourth and fifth Dutch Cups of Keizer's time there. His ability to run rings around defences and play a defense-splitting pass, or to scorch down the touchline and put in a perfect cross for a teammate made him a vital member of the team, and his intelligence to fill holes left by others and pick up the ball in a number of positions were pre-eminent features of the 'total football' system that came to the fore in his time at Ajax.
Those who saw both play, or indeed even played with them, often debate over the question of how Cruyff and Keizer compare, with Keizer's supporters making claim that Michels liked to pick favourites, particularly with Cruyff, and as such relegated Keizer to the shadows. Michels was known for dropping or selling players off the back of just the shortest periods of poor form, or deviance from his plans, but Keizer was too valuable to do so with. The two reportedly went years without speaking to each other, and Keizer famously danced on the tables of his father-in-law's pub, the Oesterbar, upon the news that the manager had left Ajax in 1971. Cruyff also had the 'look' to make him the star/face of the team while also playing a slightly more electrifying style of play compared to Keizer's creative precision and preference to slow down, then speed up, the pace of the game, which would have played into his favour in terms of public perception. Whether true or not, the fact that there was so much debate over who was the better of the two speaks volumes of Keizer's abilities on the pitch.
1971 Balon d'Or 9th place
1972 Balon d'Or 5th place.
Who's up next?
Thursday?
I am online for most of today, so please tag if any matches to be set.
Yes ok bud, I sent my write up in a few days ago
Sweet, will get mine across.
Good luck to you too mate! Tomorrow will be fine for me.
Do I need to raise any more games today?
Was there an overview of the final squads? Couldn't find any.
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Cheers!
@SirScholes ive sent my write up today and good to start whenever.
@Skizzo @GodShaveTheQueen my writeup is done, although it's far less refined than I wanted it to be..
Who is playing today?
@GodShaveTheQueen me vs Isotope please
Both coming up now.
I can see Gio - Zlatan is tomorrow.
Enigma is waiting to hear from @SirScholes (please respond soon)
@Physiocrat @Michaelf7777777 , I am guessing you guys are playing on Friday?
Enigma is waiting to hear from @SirScholes (please respond soon)
@Physiocrat @Michaelf7777777 , I am guessing you guys are playing on Friday?
We are on for Friday
Sounds good mate
Pat, gstq I am sorry. I can only find 10 minutes this afternoon to send a short text tonight.
Then pat will decide if the game starts this afternoon or tomorrow.
In any case I can't be very involved in the discussions.
Sorry again
Then pat will decide if the game starts this afternoon or tomorrow.
In any case I can't be very involved in the discussions.
Sorry again
No problem mate. We can kick off later today.
Me and Michael's game should be today @GodShaveTheQueen
I only sent this morning. Sorry, hope there would be some comments and discussions.
Will raise both in a while.
@SirScholes , yet to hear from you. You have till 23:59 PM BST to please let us know your plans.
If not, the tie will be changed to @Enigma_87 vs @Šjor Bepo .
If Sjor is not interested, Enigma progresses.
@SirScholes , yet to hear from you. You have till 23:59 PM BST to please let us know your plans.
If not, the tie will be changed to @Enigma_87 vs @Šjor Bepo .
If Sjor is not interested, Enigma progresses.
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No problem mate.
Trying to find players for the reinforcements round is a nightmare. We've had that many niche drafts that every player of worth seems to have been picked at some point.
It took me several hours over several days to find two that I like. So probably they'll get blocked or something.
I've not found 1 yet and that's made even worse by only wanting to change 1 position, I've no idea where I can go for the 2nd position.
I think fitting them into a position was the hardest thing to do. I first find the player based on the position and think "ah, there's no way this guy was ever picked" and then start reading up on him to see if he'd actually be a good fit. I dig around for compilations and highlights or even go as far as watching matches when no other info is forthcoming. Finally I decide he'd be a good fit for my team. Then I think, "hmm, I should probably check on the off chance he's been picked in some obscure draft, y'know just in case", and woe betide he's been picked in some ancient draft that had squads of 50 players, and never featured in any matches. That's when I start swearing at the laptop screen and giving dirty looks to the dog when it comes looking for biscuits. Rinse and repeat.
I understand now your location on your profile page!
I've got a gigantic shortlist of three names so far in case I actually make it to the next round. Also, give the dog a biscuit. 100%. Things like the Eastern European Draft or the South American draft unearthed a lot of these hidden gems.
There are still a few out there but yeah, it’s not easy pickings.