Sure you can.Everyone is making up whatever narrative they want. Lukaku and Sanchez and Smalling instigated moves for lack of guarantee of playing time. Darmian has been on the 50 percent off shelf for 5 years and the board just wacked a 99 percent sale sign in him.
There has been nothing from Ole saying he wants rid infact he is saying the opposite.
Maybe he is ruthless behind the scenes but let's face it. Anyone saying it's him assassinating everyone is just making it up.
As a manager with the squad the way it is I can't believe Ole would not want Sanchez, Lukaku and Smalling on the bench if they were happy to do that.
Yep1 more down then.
Legitimately forgot he existed. Looked a good prospect in 15-16, crazy that he started an FA Cup semi final.1: David De Gea
13: Lee Grant
22: Sergio Romero
2: Victor Lindelof
3: Eric Bailly
4: Phil Jones
5: Harry Maguire
16: Marcos Rojo
18: Ashley Young
20: Diogo Dalot
23: Luke Shaw
24: Tim Fosu-Mensah
38: Axel Tuanzebe
29: Aaron Wan-Bissaka
6: Paul Pogba
39: Scott McTominay
8: Juan Mata
14: Jesse Lingard
15: Andreas Pereira
17: Fred
31: Nemanja Matic
37: James Garner
28: Angel Gomes
9: Anthony Martial
10: Marcus Rashford
21: Daniel James
44: Tahith Chong
26: Mason Greenwood
Absolutely. It will be a tough season, absolutely no doubt, but our defence is pretty sorted and our Midfield and strike force now have the opportunity to show if they are capable of performing at the level we need to return to the top.Great to see the foundations slowly being put in place. We’ve not signed any strong replacements no, but this should set the scene for identifying the correct players in future. We have to look beyond the short term here, ie this season.
Thought he was on his way back to Ajax this window?Legitimately forgot he existed. Looked a good prospect in 15-16, crazy that he started an FA Cup semi final.
Pretty sure you don't want to see Herrera on 250k per week wage at United.Herrera was not 'assassinated' by anyone. We just fecked up his contract extension. I actually think that all the other players who left, should have left, and hopefully many more (Young, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Darmian and Matic) will join them in the next 12 months.
Right, so we don't know what actually happened but you assume he wanted 250k from us.Pretty sure you don't want to see Herrera on 250k per week wage at United.
Maybe we took our time to extend his contract, or maybe his agent asking him to hold out for other offers. We don't know shyte what happened behind the scenes.
I'd rather see him leave than getting that 250k per week wages.
How can you even say that after recent performances and results? Yes, i'm happy to of seen alot of the deadwood be moved on, but to be 'delighted' with everything is just bizarre.Absolutely delighted with Ole. Guess we're heading to the right path now.
Now let the seed grow into something special, if only all our fan base is on the same boat.
I'm delighted because imo since Fergie retired, the team is likeable again. We're full of youth, we're trying to attack more, (although it didn't work out yet), we're clearly building a new back bone.How can you even say that after recent performances and results? Yes, i'm happy to of seen alot of the deadwood be moved on, but to be 'delighted' with everything is just bizarre.
I agree. The foundation is taking shape, the results will come with time & a couple more additions. Rome wasn’t built in a day..I'm delighted because imo since Fergie retired, the team is likeable again. We're full of youth, we're trying to attack more, (although it didn't work out yet), we're clearly building a new back bone.
Results can wait, if Ole said he needs the correct player and that kind of player couldn't be obtained this season, I can live with that.
He laid the foundation and space for players coming in, and I truly believe in his project.
How do you become a professional, if you cant play under some pressure or pass reasonably well, especially at Man United. Were defenders just judged on heading ability as being good enough by scouts. Quite baffling how some of these mediocre guys make it to the top level!Last season our defense was leaking while Smalling was our main defender. He started 24 league games where we conceded 37 goals, and his defensive record did not get any better when Solskjaer came in, 11 games started and 17 goals conceded, 1.5 goals per game, thats 57 goals conceded per season. Add to that Smalling is our weakest defender with the ball in his feet, its time to let him go, but people seem to want to still cling on to him as if he suddenly is going to become good for us. No wonder our squad is bloated.
That's all well and good, but when we finish 9th or 10th what kind of calibre player is he going to bring in? Because the likes of Longstaff aren't taking us back up the table that is for sure.I'm delighted because imo since Fergie retired, the team is likeable again. We're full of youth, we're trying to attack more, (although it didn't work out yet), we're clearly building a new back bone.
Results can wait, if Ole said he needs the correct player and that kind of player couldn't be obtained this season, I can live with that.
He laid the foundation and space for players coming in, and I truly believe in his project.
There is obviously a long term plan going on for the first time in ages. With all the deadwood in the squad it was always going to be difficult to build due to the squad size, wage bill and individual wages which new players would want parity with.How can you even say that after recent performances and results? Yes, i'm happy to of seen alot of the deadwood be moved on, but to be 'delighted' with everything is just bizarre.
Well maybe that's what he wanted?Right, so we don't know what actually happened but you assume he wanted 250k from us.
I'm sorry, but a few posters on here live in dream world. Yes the deadwood needed moved on and i'm as happy as anyone at that, but Football is a results business, and when you don't get results you end up in poor finishing positions (like it's looking we will this season). At that point the top players needed to take you back to the top then don't want to join. Realistically once Pogba goes next Summer who are we going to bring in to re-inforce that midfield? Sean Longstaff and the likes aren't the answer right now, and will only cement you as a mid table club. We need top class mixed in with the GOOD young players (that doesn't include Andreas, Lingard, possibly McTominay etc.), and once we lose another world class player (possibly 2 with De Gea) it puts us even further down the pecking order of teams players want to sign for. If we finish 10th then you get the likes of even James Maddison considering whether he would want to join. At that point where does your 'long term plan' go?There is obviously a long term plan going on for the first time in ages. With all the deadwood in the squad it was always going to be difficult to build due to the squad size, wage bill and individual wages which new players would want parity with.
We have somebody who isn't scared to take the drastic first step, free up the wages and the squad and get a proper rebuild done rather than buy a few high paid, profile players who can't influence a squad which had so much dross underneath it. The results this year were never going to be great, but putting the club into a position where we can build without constraints feels great.
It's not a dream mate, it's the path we're going now. That's the reality we're in.I'm sorry, but a few posters on here live in dream world. Yes the deadwood needed moved on and i'm as happy as anyone at that, but Football is a results business, and when you don't get results you end up in poor finishing positions (like it's looking we will this season). At that point the top players needed to take you back to the top then don't want to join. Realistically once Pogba goes next Summer who are we going to bring in to re-inforce that midfield? Sean Longstaff and the likes aren't the answer right now, and will only cement you as a mid table club. We need top class mixed in with the GOOD young players (that doesn't include Andreas, Lingard, possibly McTominay etc.), and once we lose another world class player (possibly 2 with De Gea) it puts us even further down the pecking order of teams players want to sign for. If we finish 10th then you get the likes of even James Maddison considering whether he would want to join. At that point where does your 'long term plan' go?
Herrera probably would have accepted a lower offer from Manutd if it was done earlier. He already said he had decided to join PSG by the time Manutd offered him a contract (We must not have offered him a contract until the last six months of his current one at the time - too late), so it is understandable that he wanted more money at that point to change his mind. It is completely the clubs fault there.Well maybe that's what he wanted?
If we offered him 150k per week and he basically got an offer letter from PSG with that big fat contract, do we have to blame the club?
He called himself a Red devil, but that's just his PR stunt isn't it? Herrera is not 250k per week player.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that it's an easy option, but the last few years haven't moved us anywhere and more importantly the players who weren't offering anything on the pitch were taking ludicrous wages.I'm sorry, but a few posters on here live in dream world. Yes the deadwood needed moved on and i'm as happy as anyone at that, but Football is a results business, and when you don't get results you end up in poor finishing positions (like it's looking we will this season). At that point the top players needed to take you back to the top then don't want to join. Realistically once Pogba goes next Summer who are we going to bring in to re-inforce that midfield? Sean Longstaff and the likes aren't the answer right now, and will only cement you as a mid table club. We need top class mixed in with the GOOD young players (that doesn't include Andreas, Lingard, possibly McTominay etc.), and once we lose another world class player (possibly 2 with De Gea) it puts us even further down the pecking order of teams players want to sign for. If we finish 10th then you get the likes of even James Maddison considering whether he would want to join. At that point where does your 'long term plan' go?
I wanted to write that point across, thank you.I don't think anybody is suggesting that it's an easy option, but the last few years haven't moved us anywhere and more importantly the players who weren't offering anything on the pitch were taking ludicrous wages.
A club can't just offer more and more to an already big squad. Like any business you free up the cash to allow for building in the right way going forward. We're in a state, I agree but that isn't because we bought a load of world class players who deserve to be in the squad ahead of the youngsters. It's the opposite. All we've done is get rid of players offering basically nothing which hopefully allows us to buy the right players in the next couple of year .
Hold on a minute, Fergie at least had some credentials before he came to United. Ole has none (and no, winning the Norwegian league doesn't count). Ole has proven absolutely nothing on the pitch, aside from a few nice counter attacking goals. We are playing relegation fodder and not winning. There is absolutely no excuse for that. We can blame unluckiness, VAR, Refs, whatever you want but the fact is you don't drop points on a regular basis to these teams, and that looks like our level now. So I think we are approaching scary territory, not a positive one if i'm being brutally honest.It's not a dream mate, it's the path we're going now. That's the reality we're in.
Majority of the posters forgot Fergie always make his own stars, and usually signs big potential wonderkids instead of ready made top players. (We had the berbas, verons, tevez before, i know that.)
But hey, if caf existed when Fergie started there will be fans like you asking him to go. For a long time, we finally look like a club with direction with Ole at the helm.
Let's give him time, it's just 4 games in with the deadwood gone.
But are we freeing up cash to then adequately replace these players? or are we doing to it to save the Glazers more money? We have already seen the Glazers tighten the purse strings in terms of Transfer budgets, and how do we know they aren't going to do the same to the wage bill? I don't know how anyone can have confidence we will we bring in any sort of quality next Summer.I don't think anybody is suggesting that it's an easy option, but the last few years haven't moved us anywhere and more importantly the players who weren't offering anything on the pitch were taking ludicrous wages.
A club can't just offer more and more to an already big squad. Like any business you free up the cash to allow for building in the right way going forward. We're in a state, I agree but that isn't because we bought a load of world class players who deserve to be in the squad ahead of the youngsters. It's the opposite. All we've done is get rid of players offering basically nothing which hopefully allows us to buy the right players in the next couple of year .
My post was aimed at the fact that you rightly pointed out that we don't know the full story, yet there you are assuming he wanted 250K. And that it was a PR exercise when he called himself a Red Devil.Well maybe that's what he wanted?
If we offered him 150k per week and he basically got an offer letter from PSG with that big fat contract, do we have to blame the club?
He called himself a Red devil, but that's just his PR stunt isn't it? Herrera is not 250k per week player.
We don't know it, true, however, I think that he should have been a player whose contract should have been extended at least 2 years before the contract run out. There were no rumours that we offered him a new contract until his final year, at which stage PSG offered him more.Pretty sure you don't want to see Herrera on 250k per week wage at United.
Maybe we took our time to extend his contract, or maybe his agent asking him to hold out for other offers. We don't know shyte what happened behind the scenes.
I'd rather see him leave than getting that 250k per week wages.
