wr8_utd
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Anyone seen the first two episodes of this?
I've seen the pilot, they've released another episode?Anyone seen the first two episodes of this?
You certainly wouldn't brag about not having it in your pledge of allegiance. I re-read the novel after seeing the pilot, one of the things I think they failed to capture was that fascism was now the normal state of affairs that you just went about your daily business in, they weren't in a resistance movement raging against oppression. Even the nicer characters were casually racist and almost blasé about widespread genocide. It was the norm. They need to be careful about getting rid of that and just turning it into an extended war film. I'm still looking forward to the full series though.Looks quite mediocre and riddled with cliches. Also, they appear to have gone down the easy route of binary good/evil.
"Justice and liberty for none" is poor writing imo, as if the Germans had won the war they'd have used justice and liberty as justification for their acts... kinda like the US did in Iraq.
Wow, was just about to write "I wonder if the book is similar to Man in High Castle by Dick" -- feck me I'm dense. Yeah, I've read this book, it was a bit weird I thought, not excellent, not bad, just good. Weird vibe to it, was more about Japanese if I recall correctly. (Years since I've read it).You certainly wouldn't brag about not having it in your pledge of allegiance. I re-read the novel after seeing the pilot, one of the things I think they failed to capture was that fascism was now the normal state of affairs that you just went about your daily business in, they weren't in a resistance movement raging against oppression. Even the nicer characters were casually racist and almost blasé about widespread genocide. It was the norm. They need to be careful about getting rid of that and just turning it into an extended war film. I'm still looking forward to the full series though.
Bleh, had been looking forward to this.The pilot was great and very promising. Astonishingly the rest of the first series is mediocre at best.
It could've been a great show.
Don't take my words too seriously. The pilot was probably too overwhelming for me and I expected it to continue that way.Bleh, had been looking forward to this.
Nah I had a feeling it would be the way, as @Bebe said above the book isn't particularly easy to translate to the screen, particularly for a presumably multi-season show. I'll give it a go eventually, just not going to rush into it unless I hear a lot of praise.Don't take my words too seriously. The pilot was probably too overwhelming for me and I expected it to continue that way.
It's just Amazon getting its mates & family to write 'em.It's been getting very good reviews.
Ya, it's not really binary good/evil. It might be the only show ever to make you actually pull for Adolf Hitler.Looks quite mediocre and riddled with cliches. Also, they appear to have gone down the easy route of binary good/evil.
"Justice and liberty for none" is poor writing imo, as if the Germans had won the war they'd have used justice and liberty as justification for their acts... kinda like the US did in Iraq.
I thought they were involved but the allies lost. It's all pretty vague and unexplained. Really enjoyed watching it, it's a slow burner though.Ya, it's not really binary good/evil. It might be the only show ever to make you actually pull for Adolf Hitler.
The entire premise is absolutely nauseating though. It is basically the height of US conceit, "we don't get involved therefore Germany and Japan win".
If you can suspend your disbelief over that, it's fun.
It was made very obvious that the Americans were involved and lost. You need to pay more attention.The entire premise is absolutely nauseating though. It is basically the height of US conceit, "we don't get involved therefore Germany and Japan win".
Depends on your TV taste. If you're an action type fan then it's probably not a show for you. If you don't mind slower paced thinkers then this is 100% up your street.Only just heard about this- reviews in here seem quite mixed but got 96% and 93% on rottentomatoes fwiw. So long since I read the book, I can barely remember it to be honest.
So overall, worth a watch?
It was enjoyable and kept me enticed throughout the whole 10 episodes because the idea behind it is very captivating and poignant. Unfortunately though I think it had the potential to be much better. Visually it is stunning and up there with the very best tv shows however the plot at times seemed unimaginative. The imagery of Nazi New York was very eerie as was the rising sun flag appearing everywhere The the west coast. It does make you wonder how different life could have been for us all. The ending is mind boggling and is completely open to the viewers interpretation.
It has been getting great reviews though which I find strange. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh because my expectation of TV shows has hit the roof ever since watching BB and Walking dead.
I mean my expectation has gone very high because the likes of bb and walking dead are the best out there. Imo of course.
k, i'll hold my tongue.I mean my expectation has gone very high because the likes of bb and walking dead are the best out there. Imo of course.
No I wouldn't want you to hide it. By all means, get it out. I want to know what your favourite shows are.k, i'll hold my tongue.
Americas Next Top Model obviously!No I wouldn't want you to hide it. By all means, get it out. I want to know what your favourite shows are.
Big brother?I mean my expectation has gone very high because the likes of bb and walking dead are the best out there. Imo of course.
I think all things considered they've done a good job. I don't really think the books story would have worked as a ten series long season arc (especially if they want to make a series 2) but they've done a good job in re-creating the world of the story which is, all things considered, the best bit about the book in the first place.Finally got to it. It was enjoyable enough as its own thing, it's just a shame they basically seem to have ignored the book completely and said "how do we make an ongoing tv show where the allies lose the war?". The plot is pretty standard wartime resistance fare with the occasional event from the novel thrown in as window dressing, and the characters are cardboard cutouts that are consistently thick and irritating. Don't really like that they've changed the Grasshopper Lies Heavy from a book to a bunch of films either, it doesn't really work as a concept.
All in all, I guess I'd say it's alright enough as a tv show, will watch next season to see where it goes, but as adaptations go it's pretty gash.