Brilliant.
@el magicoAnd they wonder why they get called 'plastic'.
Even before the game City fans were grasping at straws, sharing a supposed picture of Old Trafford with empty seats at a semi final against Hull City.
Turns out that was because over 7500 of the Hull allocation went empty.
A major effect on what, or more importantly, to whom? The type of fan City attract these days is your bog standard glory hunter. The type who contribute very little to the club in terms of matchday revenue or merchandising. Their support of City will always be measured by success on the field, as will their loyalty. No connection with the club and it's history will be formed, no unbreakable bond created from years and years of highs and lows will materalise. They can have 'em.With City the real issue is that most people see their success for what it is - a lottery win. At least Chelsea were a champions league club with a track record of Cup success and the glamour of London behind them. City just reek of jammy inauthenticity, and people aren't buying it.
That said, a few more years like this and the fanbase will really start to grow. United and Liverpool made their name in the 50s and 60s, so City have a lot of catching up to do but there's no doubt the current success will have a major effect.
Plus the fact it came 3 days after 74000+ attended the Reading FA cup game, not forgetting iirc no discounted tickets either, they'll argue that seat counting is a 'rag' obsession, yet they can quote any United attendance that dropped below 60,000 in an instantAnd they wonder why they get called 'plastic'.
Even before the game City fans were grasping at straws, sharing a supposed picture of Old Trafford with empty seats at a semi final against Hull City.
Turns out that was because over 7500 of the Hull allocation went empty.
Indeed. They'll move on when the success does.A major effect on what, or more importantly, to whom? The type of fan City attract these days is your bog standard glory hunter. The type who contribute very little to the club in terms of matchday revenue or merchandising. Their support of City will always be measured by success on the field, as will their loyalty. No connection with the club and it's history will be formed, no unbreakable bond created from years and years of highs and lows will materalise. They can have 'em.
Yeah, this is true. Remember back at school, we used have a lot of banter between the Arsenal, Chelsea, Pool fans. Never met or heard of a City fan. In fact, I didn't even know City existed till the 2002 commonwealth games. I grew up with Arsenal being the rival and Liverpool the enemy.Unfortunately, yes. I already see kids at my school wearing City shirts. I've never seen anyone in Denmark wearing one until a few years ago.
Plastic rubbish club buying their success. A footnote in the history of legitimate football
The thread title tells you all you need to know, having perpetuated the myth that "Manchester Is Blue" for decades, reality has bitten them on the arse and with their high profile, the rest of the country can now see what United fans have witnessed, since the end of WWIII don't get the fascination with their empty seat s, they are well supported given the size of the club and that their well out numbered in the Greater Manchester area.
I know several blues who used to follow them all over the country when they were in the 3rd tier but just can't afford to go every week.
World war 11? Jesus, did I sleep through 9 of them?The thread title tells you all you need to know, having perpetuated the myth that "Manchester Is Blue" for decades, reality has bitten them on the arse and with their high profile, the rest of the country can now see what United fans have witnessed, since the end of WW11
Damn it, if only i'd seen your reply right below first.One good night's sleep and I missed 9 world wars. Trump, ffs
There was no milk in he office fridge this morning, thus no much needed coffee. Trump, ffsOne good night's sleep and I missed 9 world wars. Trump, ffs
Yeah they've always had a good hardcore of support - they used to get 30,000 regularly in Div 2 (although, having been to Maine Road a few times in the mid-90s, I remember the booing was awful and the crowd was actually counter-productive at times).I don't get the fascination with their empty seats, they are well supported given the size of the club and that their well out numbered in the Greater Manchester area.
I know several blues who used to follow them all over the country when they were in the 3rd tier but just can't afford to go every week.
World War 9 was the best, when Canada saved Spain from the Decepticon & Cobra alliance.World war 11? Jesus, did I sleep through 9 of them?
Damnit, the decepticon war was the one I really wanted to be in, it was going to be my heel turn.World War 9 was the best, when Canada saved Spain from the Decepticon & Cobra alliance.
I really don't believe that figure.To paraphrase a tweet I saw last night (which I won't embed because I sort of know the guy and I doubt he'd want any extra bother from you lot ), we have about 35,000-40,000 season ticket regulars who turn up for every home game. The remaining 10,000 come and go as they please, which means that while we're at 98% of full capacity for league games, cup games that aren't against Barcelona/Real Madrid barely touch 50,000 (unless the club gives tickets away on the cheap like for the Burnley game). It's not really a problem if we carry on winning matches, at least in my view.
These figures are from last season admittedly, but attendances are roughly the same this year:I really don't believe that figure.
Yeah these stats usually show tickets SOLD but you can clearly see they pretty much never fill 98%I really don't believe that figure.
Stats never tell the whole story, it's clear as day the city ground is at 80-90% max every game from looking.These figures are from last season admittedly, but attendances are roughly the same this year:
http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-2016-2017/1/
Well, I've been to every home game since 2003 bar a handful, and when I've not been able to go I've handed my seasoncard over to a friend, and it's been somewhere between 95-98% full at basically every home league game since then (it only really dropped significantly while Pearce was there). So I don't know what to tell you.Stats never tell the whole story, it's clear as day the city ground is at 80-90% max every game from looking.
This is the reality for city. There's nothing real there anymore.Plastic rubbish club buying their success. A footnote in the history of legitimate football
If it was between 95-98 there wouldn't be many empty seats but it has more empty seats than a serial killers funeral.Well, I've been to every home game since 2003 bar a handful, and when I've not been able to go I've handed my seasoncard over to a friend, and it's been somewhere between 95-98% full at basically every home league game since then (it only really dropped significantly while Pearce was there). So I don't know what to tell you.
We're at the point where you've just chosen to ignore attendance stats I provided you, so I don't think we're going to get anywhere. Have a nice afternoon, mate.If it was between 95-98 there wouldn't be many empty seats but it has more empty seats than a serial killers funeral.
I told you stats don't mean a thing when seeing it tells a vastly different story.We're at the point where you've just chosen to ignore attendance stats I provided you, so I don't think we're going to get anywhere. Have a nice afternoon, mate.
Absolutely. That and the fact we weren't at Maine Road anymore. Although, if we have to be thankful to United for anything, being taken over by the Sheikh as a result of United's popularity and becoming one of the best teams in Europe with Pep Guardiola as our manager is a pretty easy thing to thank you for.I hate these oil owners but at least they could have bought a club which had more passionate supporters orsome history aka Nottingham Forest.
It is funny but the truth is only reason sheikh even bought Manchester city is because of the success and global appeal of Manchester United . Maybe city fans can always be thankful to us.
The club welcomes youAbsolutely. That and the fact we weren't at Maine Road anymore. Although, if we have to be thankful to United for anything, being taken over by the Sheikh as a result of United's popularity and becoming one of the best teams in Europe with Pep Guardiola as our manager is a pretty easy thing to thank you for.
Wasn't the original plan for them to buy Newcastle? I read once that Ashley thought it was a windupYeah they've always had a good hardcore of support - they used to get 30,000 regularly in Div 2 (although, having been to Maine Road a few times in the mid-90s, I remember the booing was awful and the crowd was actually counter-productive at times).
The thing is that their regular match-going support hasn't actually increased that much, despite the money and success. People aren't buying into them at all, at least not in the UK.
One of their key problems is that the north-west football market is really competitive - Liverpool, Everton and United all have huge support and there aren't too many floating voters for City to convert. If they played in, say, the south-west or the far north-west of the country, where there are no big clubs, they could have gained real traction in terms of support.
Exactly this.The thread title tells you all you need to know, having perpetuated the myth that "Manchester Is Blue" for decades, reality has bitten them on the arse and with their high profile, the rest of the country can now see what United fans have witnessed, since the end of WWII
You have to win something, substantial, for a sustained period of time, before such accolades can be handed out. City, for all their huff and puff this season, remain trophyless at present.Absolutely. That and the fact we weren't at Maine Road anymore. Although, if we have to be thankful to United for anything, being taken over by the Sheikh as a result of United's popularity and becoming one of the best teams in Europe with Pep Guardiola as our manager is a pretty easy thing to thank you for.
Apart from Didsbury and obviously Stockport, United dwarf City in fan numbers by an extremely large margin. Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal share a larger fanbase than City right now. Spurs likely push them close as well.Exactly this.
We have more fans outside of Manchester, across the UK and around the World. We also have more fans in Manchester too. Myth busted!
Exactly. They love to pull out those tickets SOLD stats while surrounded by empty seats.Yeah these stats usually show tickets SOLD but you can clearly see they pretty much never fill 98%