The two aren't mutually exclusive. He can't find a back four at Manchester United that he can build a team around. Think about that. Manchester United don't have anything like a top-class back four from all the players at the club. Its nuts.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Beating Soton won't be easier than beating Palace. The young boys are not sufficiently crap either. We're likely to win but I wouldn't be too surprised if Soton is another draw/loss.
That is a lie. Conte did it just 2 years ago. Poch also finished ahead of him.
His team can't defend, can't control the midfield against supposedly weaker sides, can't attack with any sort of cohesion - his main sriker hasn't scored at home for god knows how many months. A total mess from back to front after a huge 400 million outlay
Imagine having bang average dross such as Paul Pogba and Alexis Sanchez forced upon you. Ed should hang his head in shame.
This is either beyond delusion or a WUM.
Poor Jose Mourinho.
It's a disgrace that he's still the manager.
Woodward will wait until top 4 is gone for cert and then sack him. Should have gotten rid of him after that Sevilla debacle.
Our GD is -1 after 13 games. There's simply no defense for that.
Mourinho has utterly failed at his job. If he served this football/results at Real/Barca, they'd ban him from the stadium grounds for life.
-1 GD after 13 games.
3 straight managers who've completely embarrassed themselves as managers and have destroyed all of SAF's good work.
Woodward will wait until top 4 is gone for cert and then sack him. Should have gotten rid of him after that Sevilla debacle.
Our GD is -1 after 13 games. There's simply no defense for that.
Mourinho has utterly failed at his job. If he served this football/results at Real/Barca, they'd ban him from the stadium grounds for life.
-1 GD after 13 games.
3 straight managers who've completely embarrassed themselves as managers and have destroyed all of SAF's good work.
When top 4 becomes mathematically impossible, then Woodward will sack the manager. That way, the cheapskate saves the Glazers twenty something million or whatever they would have to pay Jose otherwise. It's what happened with the previous two managers while the fans suffered through months and months waiting for the inevitable.
The takeover destroyed all that work, roughly 1 billion taken out of the club since their takeover. Think about it. Not saying that Jose is perfect I believe his style of football is certainly not United style.
It's because they're building a new stadium.
The Glazers aren't perfect and have their faults, but they've given Jose enough money and he's wasted most of it.
Put that way, what CAN his team do?
This is a very naive point of view. He's totally safe.
Is it not truly insane that a manager that is supposed to be one of the best in the world,has spent 400 million pounds and manages to let us being outplayed, outfought and outrun in almost every game is still the manager of Man Utd? Eddie Howe would let the team play proper attacking football. Sir Alex came from Aberdeen so perhaps you should study how Howe has done his job. It seems to me that neither Mourinho og Van Gaal have done well despite their past achivements. Perhaps Mourinho could learn a little bit about how a true leader behaves from Sir Alex Ferguson. He knew you were only as good as your last win.
Why is he still our manager?
Time will tell who's naive mate. I'd be surprised if he was still here beyond March. He won't finish the season.
We are regressing. It is unacceptable after 2.5 seasons. We need to look at a long term manager who bleeds the culture of the club. Mourinho doesn't seem to be that person.
I'd be surprised if he wants to finish the season, or even this year. Can't wait to hear what he says afterwards.
It's not really. Teams nowadays are simply stronger offensively, or at least more committed to attacking than before. Even mid table clubs nowadays are buying technical players and putting more work tactically on ball possession, circulation and playing between the lines so defending methods that worked before are not necessarily going to work now. It is also why you hear Mourinho constantly hyping up mid table opponents. They do Indeed pose more threat than the once mostly physical from before. The best way to counter that is what the top teams are doing by raising their technical level, working more on possession and movement, things Mourinho was never a master at which is what makes him a has been.
Has there been a post match interview? Any link if so?
The fact that he is still here shows that our management is equally shit
Exactly, with super cool flashing lights.
Please refrain from calling me a Mouzophrenic Bootlicker of a Jose In Cultist Fanboy™ but there is no way he'll be sacked earlier into the season than Moyes was, unless he physically attacks some of the Glazers or sends unsolicited nudes to Pogba on Instagram. He actually has actually achieved something with the club and was handed a new contract by the same board who is now supposed to sack him, less than a year ago.
I agree. It still looks surprising how bad this team is at defending though.
The players lack 'heart' and 'desire' apparently.Put that way, what CAN his team do?
It's the least you expect from a professional footballer. the whole attacking plan amounts to waiting for lucky set piece or get it to left and hope Martial beats 4 players to get into the box.
No problem mate, I shared my personal expectation, it might be well off the mark.
Well seeing as Utd have had one of the best defensive records for the last few seasons. Even under Van Gaal when he had multiple youth at the back due to a fecking injury crisis.
Not saying our defence is good enough, far from it but when Utd go from joint 2nd in goals conceded last season to almost matching the goals conceded in a 3rd of the season.
15/16
Wait a minute, what the feck is this?
15 Chelsea 11 3 2 6 16 22 −6 11
14/15..
1 Chelsea 13 10 3 0 30 11 +19 33
deja vu perhaps?
At last some senseThe serial winner pulls off a historic draw against a swashbuckling, high flying palace team, in spite of the team of championship level players he’s forced to work with
Regarding the bolded text, there doesn’t have to be any options out there now, we just need to remove Jose and go forward with an attacking style whoever takes over, be it short term or long term.
Give it to Mackenna (spelling?) with Carrick to help and just try to instill an attacking style from here onwards.
None of that matters. He will be the third manager to get immediately sacked when CL qualification is mathematically impossible. It is literally the only success/failure criteria at United now and it makes it contractually cheaper to sack the manager.
He’s probably a season ticket holder that’s already paid for the whole season.
I’m with you 100% by the way. I usually go see United at least 20 times a season. But they won’t get a penny off of me for the foreseeable.
Yes, I agree with that. There's no way he'll stay unless we get into CL next season, was replying to the poster who thought he might get sacked before the year changes.
This is it for me too. Not coming back until he’s gone. Waste of hard earned money.
Honestly, I don’t see how some of them could be sold. Ed pays them too much. If Jose had any balls himself he’d send them down to the reserves and let’s the under 23s play for the foreseeable.
He’ll save the parasites £20 million in compensation but cost the club £50 plus million for not qualifying for the CL.
Sack him now and top 4 is salvageable under the right coach.
Not backing him in the summer was the time to let go, and they let that go.
As they did, when there were leaks he was gone.
Since then the pressure eased off with some wins, now it's back on a bit. The cycle will go on, until we can't hit top 4, which at this rate will probably be March.
That latter bit is the issue. You either go with an out of contract type, like we've done the last 3 times, or you have to wait carefully for the right moment.
As Man Utd, we should be doing the latter, not just seeing who is currently out of a job.
If it takes a fee to get a top manager, why not, the manager should be more important than a player!
It doesn't matter who is in charge now, top 4 is gone, that much is clear. I agree the club should sack him though, not just on principle but also to rebuild for next season.
I just wish he’d sense the Guillotine is being sharpened & just play Fred & Dalot. Shit or bust, chuck em in.
Exactly mate.
I live down south in Kent so it’s a good nine hours of driving there and back if I’m going to Manchester. It’s a massively tiring and expensive day out and honestly, it’s just not worth it at the moment.
Jose has sucked the joy out football for me.
Fair play to the people who actually go to ot I can’t even be bothered to watch on the telly any more. I don’t watch motd either like I used to it’s just too painful to see others playing so well.
We didn’t sack moyes or lvg quickly enough and we’ve already not sacked jose when we should have done. The signs were there in the summer and even more obvious after a few games. We could all see it wtf is Woodward playing at?
Please for the love of god feck him off now. I can’t take any more.
Fair play to the people who actually go to ot I can’t even be bothered to watch on the telly any more. I don’t watch motd either like I used to it’s just too painful to see others playing so well.
We didn’t sack moyes or lvg quickly enough and we’ve already not sacked jose when we should have done. The signs were there in the summer and even more obvious after a few games. We could all see it wtf is Woodward playing at?
Please for the love of god feck him off now. I can’t take any more.
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