Crystal Palace, Burnley, West Ham, and Everton could all potentially leapfrog us by next Sunday if we are beaten by Newcastle. Being 15th could become a reality. 15th and lower could be an even bigger reality if Chelsea beat us (Which I'm fully expecting) on October 20th.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Oh boy Jose losing his job after losing to Rafael Benitez is going to be hilarious on so many levels.
There are about 1500 votes in the poll. I think we have a few more fans worldwide.
What percentage of our fanbase is that?True. Let’s get the true mentalists on Twitter to vote. It would be closer to 90% I reckonThere are about 1500 votes in the poll. I think we have a few more fans worldwide.
It's a damn good indicator on how most of the fan base is feeling right now, not just Red Cafe.
Did you see the team,formation and tactics he put out in the last game? He absolutely doesn't care about the club. He just cares about his own ego
Do we want petulant primadonnas or feeble minded players playing for us? Why not, when we've got one managing us.
Exactly, in what logical world do you let the man that appointed the last 3 failures, chose the next one?
Losing to the fat Spanish waiter will never be 'hilarious'
I doubt Woody is working alone when it comes to picking manager. Moyes was Fergies pick? LVG was a weird pick, but still felt more like a propper pick than Moyes at the time. Not picking Mourinho when he was available would be crazy, as we were almost desperate to pick a winning manager. It's just unfortunate that Mourinho is becoming more of a whining manager the last few years.
Who to follow Mourinho? Based on history, we will hire Rafa Benitez.
Who to follow Mourinho? Based on history, we will hire Rafa Benitez.
But on the other hand this is their job and they know they can move clubs for a similar or greater wage. So they won't be arsed about the fans so much. Would you work for Asda under a shit boss and give a feck about the customers when Tesco would be happily take you on for the same pay.
You have a point there actually. Moyes was Fergie’s choice. There weren’t many options available when we appointed LVG.
And I don’t care what many United fans say now the vast majority were happy with the Mourinho appointment, just like they were happy with his first year summer signings, just like they were happy with had out done City to sign Sanchez. Hindsight is a wondering thing.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...chester-united-dressing-room-says-robert-huth
Agree with everything he said here.
Agree with everything he said here.
And zidane has his first Utd game against Juve. Sounds paper worthy
Is it true that SAF recently described the club as a circus act?
Can we simulate Tuesday match so I don't have to watch it. Every dropped point is sheer anguish at this stage.
I wouldn’t like to write the algorithm that simulates the Tuesday game. Too many variables.
Probably better off with a random number generator for between 1-5 for Valencia and 0-2 for United.
Probably better off with a random number generator for between 1-5 for Valencia and 0-2 for United.
I refuse to believe that as at right now the club isn't already in negotiations with whoever the new manager is. As bad as I think Woody is surely he can't be this incompetent?
Enough already. It’s just not working out for anyone at this point. Except for Liverpool and City maybe..
Saw this rumour as well. Another unsubstantited Pulitzer candidate, I’m sure.
I wonder what Jose makes of it all, is he just sitting at home in his hotel room waiting for the phone to ring? Is he even bothering doing match prep for Tuesday game at this point? There's a feeling of writing's on the wall about all this and if he's publicly dressing down players in training today then that's a sure sign of a man who's got nothing left to lose so he's making sure people who haven't been good enough get to hear it before he's seen off.
There isn't a single direct quote from SAF anywhere in that article.
Honestly stopped at "told friends" part. I don't expect the Mirror reporter was setting with them when he was telling "them".
Many of them haven't been good enough to be fair, mostly those that Jose brought to the club himself such as Bailly, Lindelof, Sanchez, Miki, Pogba and any others I have failed to mention.
I know. That’s why I took my time crafting a snarky and sarcastic reply invoking the Pulitzer prize and everything! Alas, you ruined it for me.
@el3mel just saw the ‘article’ linked at the Scandinavian supporter site under humbug. Didn’t actually read it. I did chuckle a little at your suggestion though, as I went there myself. SAF just let his private opinions slip while reporters are having tea all around him. Sure.
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I know. That’s why I took my time crafting a snarky and sarcastic reply invoking the Pulitzer prize and everything! Alas, you ruined it for me.
Sorry about that.
Does anyone honestly think that by changing managers will change anything? 4th time lucky maybe?
What if the players decide that they can't be bothered again, for the 4th time?
These are players, who have over the past few years beaten every single one of our rivals and beaten them convincingly. When they can be bothered they are brilliant. When they decide they can't be bothered or become so precious because of criticism, right or wrong, they cannot do the very basics of football. Basic passing, basic shooting techniques, how to clear a ball on defence.
United are fast becoming a club where the players hold all the cards. It's been an ugly transition. I suspect it disgusts someone like Sir Alex too.
What if the players decide that they can't be bothered again, for the 4th time?
These are players, who have over the past few years beaten every single one of our rivals and beaten them convincingly. When they can be bothered they are brilliant. When they decide they can't be bothered or become so precious because of criticism, right or wrong, they cannot do the very basics of football. Basic passing, basic shooting techniques, how to clear a ball on defence.
United are fast becoming a club where the players hold all the cards. It's been an ugly transition. I suspect it disgusts someone like Sir Alex too.
Apology accepted!
Telegraph
Looks like we're stuck with Mourinho for a bit more. Woodward not wanting to take action, shocker.
When was this?
I agree, its not a matter of if, but when. My money is on him not making it beyond October, sooner if we don't get results in the next few matches. If we lose Tuesday at home to Valencia, he should be sacked immediately after. Let Carrick and McKenna run the match against New Castle while you get Zidane or Conte in to save/salvage the rest of the season. The club would be foolish to leave the decision time to whether we bomb out of the CL in the groups stage but I wouldn't put anything past them at this point. The cost of letting Jose run the team further into the ground will be a hell of a lot more than any payout he's due for being sacked. Get rid. He's beyond the point of turning this around. He's had a feud with Shaw, Pogba, Martial, Herrera, apparently now Sanchez, Bailly, who is next?
I wouldn't take too much notice of the press, they know as much as we do and have to write articles for clicks. I could have made up that Telegraph article myself.
Loads of journos were saying Moyes would be given at least the season and it never happened. Jose is done - maybe not tomorrow but the writing is on the wall and it won't drag until summer, not a chance.
Conte?
Hmm, if ever there was a manager who proved the problem isn't the manager but the players, it's Antonio Conte. Taking over Chelsea after Mourinho stank up the place only to fall victim to exactly the same issues should be a lesson to anyone who pins the issues squarely on a manager. If League winning players at Chelsea decided to get rid of not just Mourinho but Conte as well, a season after walking the league, then what hope would he have at United?
Let's just convince Sir Alex to unretire and take the reins. Can't see anything else working at this point, to be honest.
As others have rightly mentioned the problems at the club run much deeper than the manager alone but surely the only way forward is to bring someone else in. Its clear that this season is fast becoming a shambles, if we bite the bullet now at the very least we would give the new manager 8 months to bed in and prepare for next season, work out what he needs and get used to the club. The fact that the season is already written off is in September is bad enough but things could actually get worse if nothing changes
If only we were the ones who snatched Sarri and Jorginho off Napoli. Imagine this under Sarri
De Gea
Dalot Alderweireld Bailly Shaw
Jorginho
Fred Pogba
Sanchez Rashford Martial
Dalot Alderweireld Bailly Shaw
Jorginho
Fred Pogba
Sanchez Rashford Martial
If we get a coach that plays good football and is positive then the players won’t have any reason too. Mourinho has made this happen with his horrible attitude and boring football. The players haven’t just decided for no reason. He’s slaughtered Pogba, mkhi, Martial, Shaw all publically. Sooner or later that was going to bounce back at him.
That easy eh? Let's hope so, because if the next manager fails to deliver either performances or success then us fans are going to run out of excuses for the players.
As for deciding for no reason, they play in a results and performance based industry and criticism, harsh, public or private is part and parcel of it all. If they are so weak minded that they cower and give up, then it says more about them, than it does about Mourinho.
I do not see anyone claiming that everything else is hunky dory. But the manager is currently the biggest open bleeding wound that must be stanched first, and it makes no sense to blame his travails on everyone else except himself. And indeed the players are better than they look under him.
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