The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Ricky Burns got away with that one, Beltran won by 2 or 3 rounds.
Burns is a tough character, dislocated jaw in round 2.
 
Ricky Burns got away with that one, Beltran won by 2 or 3 rounds.
Burns is a tough character, dislocated jaw in round 2.

That was quite shocking that a judge saw the fight to Burns by 3. I thought Beltran was 2-3 rounds ahead also.
 
Isn't this getting beyond a joke?
Burns v Cook: Cook down in 6 secs and TKOd in 1.
Burns v Gonzalez: Gonzalez pastes him for 7 rounds and doesn't come out for 8th.
Burns v Beltran: gets jaw dislocated, knocked down and outboxed but 'draws'.
 
I hope Mayweather wins and keeps his '0', but I think it might be a tough test which he wil shade in the end. Then again, I and everyone else have been predicting that could be the case for his last 2-3 fights and it wasn't the case. He's just a class act. I do think this is his toughest possible opponent and if he gets through this he'll probably cruise to retirement against the likes of Khan etc.
 
I hope Mayweather wins and keeps his '0', but I think it might be a tough test which he wil shade in the end. Then again, I and everyone else have been predicting that could be the case for his last 2-3 fights and it wasn't the case. He's just a class act. I do think this is his toughest possible opponent and if he gets through this he'll probably cruise to retirement against the likes of Khan etc.



Why?
 
Because he's the most talented boxer of his generation?
Because he's mildly entertaining even when acting the cnut?
Because as far as his boxing career goes he's a great example to any young boxer of how to dedicate yourself to your craft?
Because he is one of very few boxers about with the kind of charisma to keep boxing a reasonably mainstream sport?
Because he is a better boxer than Canelo?
 
Because he's the most talented boxer of his generation?
Because he's mildly entertaining even when acting the cnut?
Because as far as his boxing career goes he's a great example to any young boxer of how to dedicate yourself to your craft?
Because he is one of very few boxers about with the kind of charisma to keep boxing a reasonably mainstream sport?
Because he is a better boxer than Canelo?

All perfectly valid reasons but I still hope Canelo crushes him! I respect his work ethic towards training but I can't stand his personality. It goes without saying that he's been vital in keeping boxing in the mainstream these past few years though.
 
All perfectly valid reasons but I still hope Canelo crushes him! I respect his work ethic towards training but I can't stand his personality. It goes without saying that he's been vital in keeping boxing in the mainstream these past few years though.


I think it would be interesting to see what the make up of boxing would like like after a Canelo win, won't happen though in my opinion.
 
I think it would be interesting to see what the make up of boxing would like like after a Canelo win, won't happen though in my opinion.

Aye, for all that I'm hoping Canelo wins I have doubts whether he's got the punch output to really put the pressure on Floyd. He was only averaging in the 30s per round against Trout, and fighters tend to lower their output massively against Floyd.

It would be interesting to see how things would develop if Canelo won and become a superstar basically overnight.
 
Aye, for all that I'm hoping Canelo wins I have doubts whether he's got the punch output to really put the pressure on Floyd. He was only averaging in the 30s per round against Trout, and fighters tend to lower their output massively against Floyd.

It would be interesting to see how things would develop if Canelo won and become a superstar basically overnight.


He'd instantly become a hall of fame-er by defeating Money, for me it has to be that floyd has a momentary couple of seconds of carelessness (he had quite a few against Cotto) and gets caught with Canelo's biggest shot, however even then Floyd has a good chin. I just see this being as easy as the Guerrero fight in terms of Floyd pot shot-ing and moving too well for Canelo.
 
He'd instantly become a hall of fame-er by defeating Money, for me it has to be that floyd has a momentary couple of seconds of carelessness (he had quite a few against Cotto) and gets caught with Canelo's biggest shot, however even then Floyd has a good chin. I just see this being as easy as the Guerrero fight in terms of Floyd pot shot-ing and moving too well for Canelo.

That's the likeliest outcome imo, although its exciting to see him in there with a fighter like Canelo who at least has the realistic potential to score an upset. The likes of Mosley and Cotto were solid enough opponents but were both clearly on the downward slope whereas with Canelo there's the possibility that he'll show up better than we've seen him before. Really looking forward to this one.
 
Floyd's a little wife beating, big mouth bitch, the sooner someone catches him him in the ring and puts him down the better for everyone. Trouble is, he'll have the ref, judges and so on in his pocket , Joe Cortez style.
 
Because he's the most talented boxer of his generation?
Because he's mildly entertaining even when acting the cnut?
Because as far as his boxing career goes he's a great example to any young boxer of how to dedicate yourself to your craft?
Because he is one of very few boxers about with the kind of charisma to keep boxing a reasonably mainstream sport?
Because he is a better boxer than Canelo?


These are reasons for why you think he will win, not why would want him to win (or pocco rather), other then the point about keeping the sport in the mainstream, which i dont agree with.

It will be far more interesting to see him lose, rather then see him box his way to a easy UD and then go on to fight 4 more Guerrero's. This is arguably his hardest fight since Castillo and hes not even boxing the guy at his main weight.

If Floyd somehow loses it might put that rocket up his arse to test his himself against Martinez and Pac (though both past it both would still be great notches for floyd). He may veen balls up and fight GGG.
 
Floyd's a little wife beating, big mouth bitch, the sooner someone catches him him in the ring and puts him down the better for everyone. Trouble is, he'll have the ref, judges and so on in his pocket , Joe Cortez style.

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feck sake mate, have a word with yourself! He's had two contestable decisions in his entire career. Castillo back in 2002 which could conceivably have went the other way, and De La Hoya in which he nearly got screwed out of an easy win.

I absolutely detest Floyd as a person, more than I can even put into words, but there's just absolutely nothing to suggest his record is built on poor judging. I wish there was but there's not. Even if Saturday does end up being a close one, it'll probably be because Floyd has shut Canelo down to the extent he throws sub-20 punches a round and its hard as feck for anyone to judge. I so badly hope I'm wrong and Canelo pummels him, but that's just a laughable way to paint Floyd's career.
 
These are reasons for why you think he will win, not why would want him to win (or pocco rather), other then the point about keeping the sport in the mainstream, which i dont agree with.

It will be far more interesting to see him lose, rather then see him box his way to a easy UD and then go on to fight 4 more Guerrero's. This is arguably his hardest fight since Castillo and hes not even boxing the guy at his main weight.

If Floyd somehow loses it might put that rocket up his arse to test his himself against Martinez and Pac (though both past it both would still be great notches for floyd). He may veen balls up and fight GGG.


No those are all reasons why somebody might admire his talent or appreciate his presence as P4P king so might be a fan and therefore want him to win. There are plenty who don't and I fully understand their dislike of him -mostly for non-boxing reasons - however I similarly would not question why somebody would want him to win as there are plenty of reasons to like him as a boxer or appreciate what he brings to the table.

As for fighting Pac unfortunately that seems to have fallen foul to politics (and I think has more to do with Mayweather's hatred of Bob Arum) so will probably never happen but I don't think Floyd ducked him for boxing reasons. GGG has to the best of my knowledge never really been touted as a realistic prospect of fighting Floyd as he can still be seen as on the come up regarding his career and there may still be some debate as to how much money he brings to the table.

Martinez (assuming we are referring to Sergio) has probably cemented himself as a genuine middleweight and at his age alongside his natural height and build is unlikely to be able or have the desire to go down is weight well enough to be able to fight Floyd with no serious disadvantage on his part. Martinez will in all likelyhood stay at his current weight and retire in a couple of fights.

I think people who dislike Floyd are sometimes blinded by that dislike and don't quite realize that there are very few times in his career where he could have thought a genuine contender and instead chose to fight somebody of a lesser stature.

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feck sake mate, have a word with yourself! He's had two contestable decisions in his entire career. Castillo back in 2002 which could conceivably have went the other way, and De La Hoya in which he nearly got screwed out of an easy win.

I absolutely detest Floyd as a person, more than I can even put into words, but there's just absolutely nothing to suggest his record is built on poor judging. I wish there was but there's not. Even if Saturday does end up being a close one, it'll probably be because Floyd has shut Canelo down to the extent he throws sub-20 punches a round and its hard as feck for anyone to judge. I so badly hope I'm wrong and Canelo pummels him, but that's just a laughable way to paint Floyd's career.

Thanks I was wondering how to even begin handling that post.:lol:
 
Is there anywhere I can watch this online? I'm willing to pay a few bucks even.
 
Think Mayweather will win a points decision, I think the Garcia/Matthysse is a very interesting match up, I'm leaning towards a late Mattysse stoppage.
 
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Does Mayweather have gum there, chewing away? Not seen that before, maybe he's nervous. Remember Ricky chewing against him in the square off. Would love him to get a good slap tonight but can't see it.

BBC reckon ring walk at 4am? I want to get some kip first, anyone heard anything else?
 
No idea how good this Alvarez lad is, but I hope he beats Mayweather. If it goes the distance, I think Floyd will win on points.
 
Hope Canelo wins, but I can't see it. Floyd by UD is what I go for. Too quick.
 
May weather on points for me, Canelo too big for him to knock out but think the fight is too soon for him and Mayweather will be just to good.
 
We'll only claim him as being Irish if he wins, we'll say he came from a shower of Connemara immigrants or something. If he loses he's 100% Mexican.