Ruiz is a far superior fighter compared to Wilder. He is just fat, but he is actually a decent fighter. Wilder looks someone who started training 2 years ago.
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Brave prediction by you there. Bet you were on your own when you said that mate.
There is one person in the world right now who shits his pants in fear and his name is Anthony Joshua. I wouldn't want to step in the ring with Fury if I was him.
Its pretty well known that Joshua went into that fight on the back of a concussion. He was destroying Ruiz until he got clipped, and you could see he was immediately concussed again. Should never have fought. Second fight, I get it. A loss there would’ve been career ending.
I’m not saying he’s a great boxer, and everyone has bad days. But he’s consistently shown more than Wilder. Joshua has shown, against Klitschko that he Can brawl with the best and take a hit.
Just learned that Fury is a United fan. So now I love him.
Said it years ago well before the Vlad fight and it didn't go down well. I got to come back and remind them now. A few agreed and could appreciate Tysons skill and ignore his physique.
So happy man
Love you Fury
Love you Fury
Joshua is better when he is lighter for sure. He’s a decent boxer, but not in the class of Fury. He’s got big power though, and actually has the fundamentals down well enough to be a threat to Tyson. It’s definitely a fight I’d like to see.
Set my alarm for 4.45, it eventually woke me up at 5.45! I was hoping for some gifs of the knock-downs in this thread, but it turns out @GifLord isn't a boxing fan.
Well I’m a convert then.
Great fight, perfect from Fury!
Everyone knows that Joshua has no balls to get in the ring with neither of them. He will fight fecking Pulev 10 times or a retired Klitschko before he mans up.
It was a fantastic performance. Wilder got absolutely outclassed it was brilliant to watch.
I think if AJ fights Wilder, then I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wilder knocks him out.
I think if AJ fights Wilder, then I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wilder knocks him out.
Denigrating Wilder after the fact is poor form - it was known precisely what he was before the bout; it still remains true and nothing has changed on that score. But his right hand is real and it will put anyone it connects with to sleep; Fury made him look absolutely atrocious and nullified the right at source - it takes huge balls to do what he did tonight, especially so when he called it before executing it.
Wilder is in the wilderness now, though, as the Brits have all the belts and all the star power with no reason at all to include him in what could easily be the biggest fight trilogy of all time ££ wise if Fury does not absolutely humiliate Joshua in the 1st encounter. They're going to sell out Wembley and make a fortune off PPV,. too.
The promoters are doing a happy dance tonight.
Just need Fury to keep it together mentally - a decisive victory like he's had mightn't actually be the best thing for him, unless he's got something to immediately replace all that energy and occupy his mind i.e. that Joshua fight being set up ASAP.
Wilder is in the wilderness now, though, as the Brits have all the belts and all the star power with no reason at all to include him in what could easily be the biggest fight trilogy of all time ££ wise if Fury does not absolutely humiliate Joshua in the 1st encounter. They're going to sell out Wembley and make a fortune off PPV,. too.
The promoters are doing a happy dance tonight.
Just need Fury to keep it together mentally - a decisive victory like he's had mightn't actually be the best thing for him, unless he's got something to immediately replace all that energy and occupy his mind i.e. that Joshua fight being set up ASAP.
Yeah, he said in his 3 part ITV tv show that he want's to fight at Old Trafford, maybe as a final farewell fight. Have you seen his itv show by any chance? Part 3 is on next week I think.
Joshua v Fury needs to happen now, but Joshua will duck that fight for a while you'd expect and hope Fury regresses from where he is now.
Fury looks so good with the green belt
Fantastic fight from Fury. Completely dominated Wilder. So happy for him. What a guy!
Joshua made a meal of Klitschko. He was stealing a living at the top for a few years, I remember Del Boy giving him a good fight but we just didn't have the right guys in there to finally put us out of our misery and end the dark days where he ruled HW. Then Tyson absolutely schooled him and suddenly people knew he was done. I never in a million years thought AJ would get dragged into the trenches against that Vlad, but there you go. I'm not giving him any props for that.
Why is it poor form? People saying after the fight exactly what they were saying before. He’s got nothing except a bomb of a right. No defence, no combinations. Just a big swinging right. It’s good as a circus act against journeymen but when faced with a real boxer he looked way out of his depth.
If Klitschko was 2-3 years younger that fight would've ended in the 5th round with a KO.
Absolutely. Wilder is danger for AJ, tonight doesn't change that.
Fury will never let him set his feet to generate any power, and he's too svelte-footed for Joshua to chase, plus his jab is the stuff of nightmares for Joshua.
It would be the biggest shock of all to me if Joshua could win that fight. Been banging the same drum about it in here since 2016 or '17 before Joshua fought Ruiz. Stylistically, it's just a horrendous match up for Josua, and it'd take some incredible coaching to make it a competitive bout, imo.
Joshua's best chance is the type of Fury we saw tonight who is there and engaging and not the Fury who is on the move all fight long.
Ffs missed it as I pressed the snooze button somehow while sleeping 
Made up for Fury though.
Made up for Fury though.
So is Fury any good or is the heavyweight div still dire?
The Klitschko of that night would’ve knocked Wilder out. There’s no doubting Vlad was past his peak but the uppercut he took from AJ would’ve knocked anyone else in the world out.
Still pretty dire.
Tyson has said some really unpleasant things in the past and I disliked him as much as anyone, too. Following his breakdown, he appears to be a changed man, now.
People can make amends by their actions and he has become a better person.
I think, maybe someone else can verify, he has recognised that he has come out with some stupid and insulting things in the past and his experience has changed his views.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and now find him genuinely likable.
Agreed. Vlad was a class above what AJ will ever be. That wasn’t really the point though.
Because the threat is and was real and no less potent. It takes a skilful and brave boxer to go in there and make light work of someone who they know can and will knock them out if that bomb connects. Him vs Joshua, for example, is still the same fight now as it was before Fury took him to pieces because Joshua does not have the skill to make that right hand immaterial like Fury did.
Completely agree. It’s the fight that’s got to happen though. What an event that’ll be. It’ll be much closer than tonight I’m sure. But all the smart money is on Tyson.
Joshua also has way more punching power than Fury, and he gets inside Wilder and he’s gonna hurt him.
Still, as has been said, Wilder is in the wilderness now. No prestige in fighting him, only risk in getting caught with a one off or fluke right hand and getting knocked out. Don’t know where Wilder goes from here.
I'm not convinced. Wilder has just as good a chance as AJ against Vlad. In my opinion they're about the same level.
I agree. I think AJ will run around the ring trying to avoid the big right, but Wilder will eventually connect and it'll be goodnight.
I pretty much agree with you there. I think Fury could and would still take it to Joshua though, just in a more measured way than tonight, as long as he watches the uppercut from Joshua!
Incredible performance. I’m in awe of the guy. Unbelievable.
It was a flawless victory.
Fury‘s close distance boxing and size really neutralised Wilder’s right hand. He couldn’t load up or telegraphed it too much. The weight gain also worked in Fury’s favour. Wilder looked completely immobilised in clinches. At certain angles it looked like Wilder was fighting someone in an upper weight division.
Fury‘s close distance boxing and size really neutralised Wilder’s right hand. He couldn’t load up or telegraphed it too much. The weight gain also worked in Fury’s favour. Wilder looked completely immobilised in clinches. At certain angles it looked like Wilder was fighting someone in an upper weight division.
I don’t see that tbh.
AJ is no Larry Holmes, but he’s a better boxer than Wilder.
It does make you wonder how Wilder will react to this his first defeat though. If Joshua was to be schooling him a bit with the jab and movement, then started to catch him and hurt him a bit, he might just have flashbacks to this fight. Who knows. Still think Joshua would beat Wilder, but only if he comes in in proper good confident shape and has a go.