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Thought half way through that Usyk was done, hurt and Fury was picking him off at will, under no stress.

Then in the 9th, wallop! and Usyk absolutely shells Fury out of nowhere, and I think the ref stepped into to save the KO tbh, Fury was on his way down and the ref goes early, saving him.
 
DON’T PANIC ™ said:
Fury was totally in control after R6, but he’s such a bellend he didn’t keep it up.
Even in the last, he clearly hurt Usyk but then stood off.
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People need to realise a couple of things.

1. Usyk punches a lot harder than he is given credit for at heavyweight.
2. He shuts of avenues to pressure him when you think he is hurt and makes it feel like a risky proposition.

This is the third top 10 heavyweight who people have said should have pressured him in moments and all 3 have avoided doing so like the plague.

Tyson's only mistake was signing up to fight the baddest man of his generation. He fought very well.
 
Other than 4,5&6 what other rounds are people giving Fury?
117-110 Uysk for me. I might not have watched as many boxing matches as the Judges but I can't see how anyone can have Fury winning.
 
Fury is scum for bringing up the war. He was well beaten and only a bell saved him from a knockout
 
Can we at least stop that Fury GOAT shit now. First high quality fighter he’s fought and he was well beaten

Close the fecking chapter on that one please
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I think he clowns as a way to try and win rounds without doing much and to maintain stamina.

He lost to a better boxer and there isn't much he could do against him for 12 rounds unless he found a big shot.
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I think he thought he had the measure of Usyk and got complacent momentarily, then he got his clock cleaned and from there got a 10-8 against him then had to take the next round off to recover, which was costly in what was such a close fight up to that moment in time.

Agree he clowns to maintain stamina and also set traps, but this time, I think it was him showing his prowess. Lennox has just said the same, about him getting caught and it changing the fight.
 
Also, can we take a second to appreciate that the 37 year old version of Usyk did this? Look man. Tail end of his prime. If Usyk took this fight earlier? He'd be even more relentless.
 
VorZakone said:
Really felt like Usyk was there for the taking but somehow at certain moments Fury didn't commit more when he had to.
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He couldn't maintain his punch output. All the drinking does damage to the liver can't match someone who's been a consummate professional their entire career. Skill-wise I think Tyson outdone Usyk in some regards but Usyk had the ability to go up a gear.
 
JP77 said:
Im talking about you saying Usyk destroyed him which he definitely didn’t, it’s getting caught up in the moment and there’s a late of hate for Fury right now that people let that effect things. The guy had Usyk in severe trouble in the middle rounds. He looked in control until a few shots landed flush and rang the bell of Fury and changed the entire fight. Like I said, fight of two halves. I expected Usyk to get the decision but this was definitely a close fight and there should definitely be a rematch. People claiming Usyk dominated and it wasn’t close is absolutely terrible tbh.
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Usyk was 8-4 up (Fury, with the 4th,5th,6th and 12th) and had Fury on a count. I don't think it's anywhere near as close as the split decision award.
 
I don't have a problem with the close scorecard. I had Usyk first round, even round 2, Fury the next 4, Usyk the next 4 (with the knock down), Fury the 11th and even in the 12th. Usyk by one or two points. But Fury shouldn't have been given a W on any of the scorecards, perhaps a draw if you've given him the close rounds.
 
paulscholes18 said:
Other than 4,5&6 what other rounds are people giving Fury?
117-110 Uysk for me. I might not have watched as many boxing matches as the Judges but I can't see how anyone can have Fury winning.
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Can make an argument him getting rounds 2 and potentially 12.
 
In not a particularly big fan of fury but I thought he actually performed quite well. Looked to have found his range and was in control from 2nd to the end of the 7th really.

All credit to usyk though, didn't get distracted by the showboating, kept plugging away somehow managed to get stronger and stronger as it went on. Only criticism was not going for the kill in the 10th - fury was there for the taking for at least the first minute of that round

The ref 100% saved fury in the 9th - he does his job and it's over but again, credit to fury for somehow recovering he looked totally gone.

I don't have an issue with tyson saying he thought he'd won - all fighters have that mindset - but there's really no need for the Ukraine at war comment. Total nonsense that

Great fight and for once I'm glad for the rematch clause as I reckon the second could be even better
 
It could easily have been stopped so it was the right result. Tight fight but that won it for Usyk.

Great fight regardless.
 
Fury couldn't keep pushing. Usyk was bouncing around and fury ain't got the same stamina
 
Fortitude said:
I think he thought he had the measure of Usyk and got complacent momentarily, then he got his clock cleaned and from there got a 10-8 against him then had to take the next round off to recover, which was costly in what was such a close fight up to that moment in time.

Agree he clowns to maintain stamina and also set traps, but this time, I think it was him showing his prowess. Lennox has just said the same, about him getting caught and it changing the fight.
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The commentator on DAZN said that it was round 9 that Usyk turned the fight vs. Joshua and that this was atypical of something he'd do. Sure enough he went onto see it out. Don't think that's coincidence, whether or not Fury got complacent, Usyk is a late fight finisher in general. There was always the likelihood that he'd finish strong.
 
Fortitude said:
I think he thought he had the measure of Usyk and got complacent momentarily, then he got his clock cleaned and from there got a 10-8 against him then had to take the next round off to recover, which was costly in what was such a close fight up to that moment in time.

Agree he clowns to maintain stamina and also set traps, but this time, I think it was him showing his prowess. Lennox has just said the same, about him getting caught and it changing the fight.
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TBF we are trying to understand Fury who is a complete wildcard at the best of times. I think even when he was fighting well he was a little shocked by Usyk, I imagine he was especially shocked that it hurt when he got hit.
 
P-Ro said:
I don't have a problem with the close scorecard. I had Usyk first round, even round 2, Fury the next 4, Usyk the next 4 (with the knock down), Fury the 11th and even in the 12th. Usyk by one or two points. But Fury shouldn't have been given a W on any if the scorecards, perhaps a draw if you've given him the close rounds.
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115-113 for me too
 
Redstain said:
He couldn't maintain his punch output. All the drinking does damage to the liver can't match someone who's been a consummate professional their entire career. Skill-wise I think Tyson outdone Usyk in some regards but Usyk had the ability to go up a gear.
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I do not think he undid Usyk skill-wise. He just had a massive size and height advantage so when Usyk was commuting, Fury was catching him with uppercut.

Until he got marked in that round and it changed everything.
 
Fury's Ukraine comment was utterly classless.

He better not double down on it in post-fight press conference.
 
P-Ro said:
I don't have a problem with the close scorecard. I had Usyk first round, even round 2, Fury the next 4, Usyk the next 4 (with the knock down), Fury the 11th and even in the 12th. Usyk by one or two points. But Fury shouldn't have been given a W on any if the scorecards, perhaps a draw if you've given him the close rounds.
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That generous, I don’t see how it’s possible to give Tyson 11 but I guess I’d need to rewatch.
 
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TMDaines said:
What is it with British heavyweights losing and turning into bellends post-match?

So pleased for Usyk. An absolutely fantastic boxer. Travelled all over Europe and now the world twatting everyone in their own backyards and/or under their own terms. He’s been brilliant for boxing. One of all the time greats.
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Turning into a bellend? He’s a bellend usually so it’s hardly surprising he’s still a bellend when concussed.
 
Would love to know the judge who gave it to Fury. I guess the 2nd and 3rd round?
 
Revan said:
I do not think he undid Usyk skill-wise. He just had a massive size and height advantage so when Usyk was commuting, Fury was catching him with uppercut.

Until he got marked in that round and it changed everything.
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It takes skill to impose size, he was countering Usyk's lead jab then stepping into the uppercut so he's not open. For large portions of the early rounds used good lateral movement and Usyk missed as his punches were slipped or caught by Fury's backhand.

It forced Usyk into having to gamble to close the distance and that's what he did but Fury's conditioning depleted his athleticism more.

Fury didn't lose on a technicality he lost because of his physical composition he couldn't keep up which is a stark contrast to Joshua's performance where there was a skill deficiency for Anthony in almost every aspect of the fight.
 
VorZakone said:
Really felt like Usyk was there for the taking but somehow at certain moments Fury didn't commit more when he had to.
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That big shot changed the fight, before his defense was decent and was probably going to ride his way to a decision. Still ended up a close fight.
 
Glorio said:
Was similar to the AJ second fight, where AJ was doing relatively well, till the second half where he just found another level, and I don't don't think any heavy weight has the engine to live with him at that stage.

Such a reach disadvantage, how does he manage to overwhelm bigger men with such crazy pressure?
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Really must be awkward fighting some like him, who is so powerful when you're that bit bigger.
Usyk has got some serious power over a shorter range, once he gets close you're in trouble. Think that's probably why Fury kept fecking about to stay away and wrapping him up. He went for it a bit more in the middle rounds. Once he got rattled he was afraid to really go at him a again.
 
Can't wait for the next instalment of "boxers who showboat too early" on Youtube.
 
Majority of the Sky pundits think the re-match won’t happen, as one of them will call it a day.
 
I'm shocked that the massive homophobic cnut that is Tyson Fury could be so classless, say the people who've apologised for him being a classless cnut for the majority of the last decade.

TMDaines said:
Majority of the Sky pundits think the re-match won’t happen, as one of them will call it a day.
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Fury will fight the winner of Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.
 
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