The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Won money on that.

Fury's ring crew, including his fat useless father, helped feck that for him too. He was clearly behind and they just gas him up as if he was winning.

This is exactly why he will never be close to the likes of Lewis, he is nothing but a brawler who doesn't get the point of a stiff jab. In fact, even as a brawler he was in trouble the moment he genuinely got hurt.
 
Other than 4,5&6 what other rounds are people giving Fury?
117-110 Uysk for me. I might not have watched as many boxing matches as the Judges but I can't see how anyone can have Fury winning.
The difference between you and that judge is that you're not in charge of trying to make this fight look close, ahead of the promoters trying to sell the second one they'd already agreed to.
 
I think Fury will. Can't see him fighting again

Me too, can't see him wanting another 12 rounds of that. His lifestyle has caught up with him, and I think tomorrow when this sinks in, he will realise he can't take anymore punishment. This will take a long time to recover from, and it wouldnt surprise me if he goes back into one of his mental breakdowns once the dust settles.
 
Had lost interest in boxing, but have to say, that fight rekindled a love for the sport. What an epic spectacle. Had me on the edge of my seat for the majority of the contest.

How Usyk turned it on its head in the ninth I’ll never know. How Fury survived that onslaught is a mystery. Thought the ref was going to stop it, but in the end glad he didn’t.

Incredible achievement for Usyk, what a career and what an amazing champion. Exactly what this sport has needed for too long.
 
Me too, can't see him wanting another 12 rounds of that. His lifestyle has caught up with him, and I think tomorrow when this sinks in, he will realise he can't take anymore punishment. This will take a long time to recover from, and it wouldnt surprise me if he goes back into one of his mental breakdowns once the dust settles.
Oh he'll 100000% be blaming that Ukraine comment on his 'mental health' by Monday morning.
 
The first six or seven rounds were pretty close and open to subjective interpretation by the judges imo, which short of a stoppage, was destined to result in a close final score.
 
Can I just say Fury impressed me a lot. I actually have a lot more respect for him as a boxer now he's won 3 or so rounds against an otherworldly skilled customer.

I said it on here, I thought Usyk would cruise to a dominant win but Fury pulled out rounds 4, 5 & 6 and made me wonder for a bit, however, Usyk is just different class. Cleared out the cruiserweight division and now the heavyweight division.
 
Me too, can't see him wanting another 12 rounds of that. His lifestyle has caught up with him

Was perhaps the most significant factor, I don't see Fury having the capacity to make up that difference when the fight with Usyk is determined by volume, movement and consistent adjustments.
 
I think Fury will. Can't see him fighting again
It’s a shot to nothing in the sense that he won’t really lose any further respect by losing again, but has everything to gain. Kind of similar to how AJ was probably feeling after the first fight.

I don’t believe the stuff about him not being motivated by money and being able to walk away from boxing. It’s boxing that seems to keep him level.

If he does rematch and win, there will be an inevitable third fight. It will put some serious mileage on his body, so I think the AJ fight probably disappeared tonight. At least a prime version of it anyway.
 
I thought it was a pretty even fight to be honest, Fury edged about six rounds but it was obvious he was trying to keep Usyk at bay and once he got rocked it was game over.
 
The first six or seven rounds were pretty close and open to subjective interpretation by the judges imo, which short of a stoppage, was destined to result in a close final score.

I agree, if the fight stayed on that trajectory I could see a draw but that power left hook from Usyk changed the bout.

It was a close fight and I had Usyk the winner by two definitive rounds 115-113: judging ring generalship, clean punches landed (including body), boxing off the back foot and defense.

The scorecards are reflective of how the fight was appropriately judged with exception of the one winner for Fury that's a little too controversial for my liking and it's a good highlight having seen some of the most disgusting robberies last 12 months with Teofimo Lopez vs Ortiz topping that list.
 
I wonder if he didn't have his knob of a dad in the corner telling him he was cruising whether it would have been different. Sounded like the American guy in the corner was seeing a different fight the way we were seeing it in the last rounds.
 
It’s a shot to nothing in the sense that he won’t really lose any further respect by losing again, but has everything to gain. Kind of similar to how AJ was probably feeling after the first fight.

I don’t believe the stuff about him not being motivated by money and being able to walk away from boxing. It’s boxing that seems to keep him level.

If he does rematch and win, there will be an inevitable third fight. It will put some serious mileage on his body, so I think the AJ fight probably disappeared tonight. At least a prime version of it anyway.

I think him losing his 0 was a big thing for him. This character he played relies a lot on his unbeaten record and now that's gone.

I'm not interested in a rematch for whatever reason, despite enjoying this fight.
 
I thought it was a pretty even fight to be honest, Fury edged about six rounds but it was obvious he was trying to keep Usyk at bay and once he got rocked it was game over.

In the early rounds he was toying with Usyk and using his jab and size to mess with him and have a little fun.

The broken nose changed it all, then his corner clearly lied to him.

It was never even once Usyk found the upper hand. He is the better boxer, even in the early rounds his technique was clearly superior.


I wonder if he didn't have his knob of a dad in the corner telling him he was cruising whether it would have been different. Sounded like the American guy in the corner was seeing a different fight the way we were seeing it in the last rounds.

His corner were very audibly wrong for the whole fight. John Fury especially should be punted out of it, stupid fat prick.
 
Fury won 4, 5, 6 and maybe 12 - that's it. Everything else was clearly Usyk
 
Said he would have gone for the kill in the last 2 rounds if his corner said he was behind. I think Tyson will be in for a shock when he re-watches the fight his corner too they made a poor judgement with the he's winning narrative.
 
Sounds like a dude who's happy to fight for the mega bucks in front of him in the Joshua fight and rematch to me. The 0's gone, nothing to protect anymore.
 
Said he would have gone for the kill in the last 2 rounds if his corner said he was behind. I think Tyson will be in for a shock when he re-watches the fight his corner too they made a poor judgement with the he's winning narrative.

There's no way Fury didn't know he needed to step up in those last rounds. At best it was a tight fight and he had just been rocked and taken an 8 count, if they didn't think he needed to push ahead there's something going on.
I think Fury knew he couldn't outbox Usyk and was a bit scared to commit himself. Relied on the jab and uppercut too much.
 
He was talking about the support


He's talking about the decision and how he thinks he won the fight before and after that comment. It's very clearly about the decision.