The shame of the Irish judicial system (The Ciaran Tobin case)

Rooney24 said:
But that doesnt make any sense. Why is it allowed to not show up to your case if represented by your lawyers and then a warrant is issued for your arrest when you exercise this right?
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it is not allowed not to show up. If you do not show up, the judge will issue a warrant, which means the police has to ensure that you show up.

But the case can go on in your absence, after a few (I think 2) delays, so you cant delay the proceedings by not showing up.

Once even I was issued such a warrant when I was a witness in a high-profile libel case. Luckily the lawyer that requested my statement reached me before the police would have acted - they have sent the papers to my old address and the new tenant did not forward it to me.
 
cinc said:
you're clueless.

1., no irish court decided that the Hungarian decision from 2002 was unfair, they have no legal right to do that. They decided on whether they should give him back to the Hungarian authorities.

2., the Hungarian authorities wanted him to serve his sentence in Ireland in the mid 2000s, Ireland had no law for that at that point. So in 2008-09 you've changed a law by the request of the Hungarian goverment that allowed his extradition. He was even arrested in Dublin and released on about 15000 eurs bail. So, even if it seemed a prolonged battle, everything seemed ok.

It seemed so anyways until this incompetent decision.

Noone cares if he serves his sentence in Ireland, in Hungary or Bangustan in Middle Earth.
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Well you do know he was serving his sentence?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1109/breaking36.html


So why do the Hungarian legal system want him extradited?


A Dublin man wanted in Hungary for causing the deaths of two children in a car crash over 10 years ago has voluntarily entered custody pending the outcome of his extradition fight.

Hungarian authorities have sought the surrender of Ciarán Tobin (47), with an address at Offington Drive, Sutton, who was convicted in absentia of negligent driving causing the deaths of siblings Marton (5) and Petra (2) Zotlai in April 2000.

Mr Tobin was sentenced to three years imprisonment by a court in Budapest, but this was reduced to 18 months on appeal.

In February the High Court found that the points of objection raised against his surrender were insufficient and ordered that he be extradited to Hungary. He is appealing that decision to the Supreme Court.

Mr Tobin entered custody of his own volition at the High Court in Dublin this morning. Should extradition proceedings against him succeed, he will likely receive credit for time spent already in custody.
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cinc said:
it is not allowed not to show up. If you do not show up, the judge will issue a warrant, which means the police has to ensure that you show up.

But the case can go on in your absence, after a few (I think 2) delays, so you cant delay the proceedings by not showing up.
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So why does it say in the Wiki article that it is allowed to not show up provided you are represented by your lawyers??
 
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