Meh ivanka will only take over anyway... the empire will continue
The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Does that family train them from a very early age or something? After listening to Trump slur his words and ramble on about a plethora of bullshit so many times, it's refreshing to see a speech that is concise and to the point.
As for him being a potential candidate, he's pretty young, isn't he. Not that I wouldn't take any candidate who can cut through the bullshit and bring some semblance of normality back to America.
Powerful speech
He seems a genuine guy.
Talks from his heart.
So long as he remembers the millions who have been left behind for far too long and fights for them, he will find his voice.
He's very good, got a natural confidence to him. Reminds me of McConaughey's in True Detective though. Maher is starting to remind me of a Blob Fish.
Mortgage, healthcare bills and loss of potentially two jobs. Nowhere near enough!I have had the same conversations many times too, it's just now I can actually speak from experience of the NHS literally saving my life. I've had a few comments from some American friends who really don't believe I haven't paid a penny, or then accuse me of going private, but most I have told just get quite bewildered by it followed by a moment of silence before changing the subject quickly
I'm glad you and your family wont be affected badly, but it really does suck that you are literally one event from losing everything. As above really, I know how quickly and completely unexpectedly something can happen and to think the system of a supposed civilised country, and one that prides itself and tries to tell the world how it is the best, can literally be so cruel to its citizens and how it can punish even the most honest and hard working of them. Good luck with the insurance, and I hope you never ever need it. $1m sounds an awful lot, but again, from experience it really isn't at all when talking in healthcare costs.
He's knowledgeable and speaks extemporaneously and tends to drown people in facts and details - sort like Bill Clinton used to do in the early 90s. If you asked me 8 years ago, I would've said Gavin is far too young and a bit too far to the left to win (despite Obama's success that year). Now the country has gone signficantly more to the left (healthcare/LGBT/medical weed etc), so I think Gavin is the guy who can galvanize all the sentiment into one candidacy by uniting the Bernie/Liz and Hillary factions into one cohesive voter base.
Excellent speech! The woman behind him didn't look that impressed though.
Good speech, horrible background music.
Now that's just silly
Yes. The country is moving left and Trump is helping it move further left with his comedy shows.
Gavin or Joe Jennedy III as someone mentioned above will unite the Democrats and Independents.
2018 will be big indication of where the country is.
Yep, agreed. I think we are going to see a massive wave of younger millenial candidates get involved and run for Congress as the ageing baby boomers get run out of Congress. Definitely good for the Dems
How about a Newsome & Kennedy ticket in 2020?
Former governor (if 2018 goes right) and former congressman
only hope Trumpy has not nuked us all before that.
Two younger candidates would do well agains Drumpf imo. He will be 74 in 2020 and if he hasn't been impeached yet, you can bet the entire country, including half the independents who voted for him last year, will have serious Trump fatigue and will be mobilized to get rid of him.
was thinking that. cant go wrong.
If the Dems retake either house of Congress next year, you can bet there will be impeachment charges brought up - either for emoluments clause violations or #KremlinGate.only hope Trumpy has not nuked us all before that.
I honestly think Trump wont even seek the nomination....he would have lined his pockets full...and may be in Turkey or Moscow by 2020.
Pence is a complete arsehole...except he seems even more dangerous. If that is possible.
A charismatic leader counts for a lot more than it should. A strong leader with a weak policy is always more likely to win than a weak leader with a strong one. It's sad, but has always been the case. And something the Corbynista side of the Labour Party have stubbornly refused to acknowledge, to their peril.
Hillary was hugely unpopular. With even a marginally less divisive candidate, the Dems would've likely won comfortably.
The only problem with Lil' Ken is he's cut from a similar dynastic cloth. But at this point, any kind of youthful populist injection is a welcome one.
That dinasty is largely associated with good 'ol America though, the one were things still went forward. Also, none of them have appeared on the national level for almost 3 decades. It helps he looks more like JFK than his actual grandson does.
we are witness to evolving Dementia in the White House.
He's already launching 2020 ads......in May of 2017.
That gathering of white people on the white house lawn after the Death Sentence of Americans Bill was jaw dropping scary to see.
I don't really see any other prominent Dem candidates around right now. I'd imagine Booker might give it a go. Gavin/Booker would make a formidable 1-2 punch.
And that he has a similar oratory cadence to his grandad...with a bit of Obama thrown in.
Though tbh, if I was in that family, the very last thing I'd do is go into politics. it only seems to end tragically. I'd be the black sheep reprobate Kennedy who had a short and unsuccessful musical career but took a lot of good drugs and shagged my way around the northern hemisphere.
Why would you limit yourself to the northern hemisphere? As for his oration, I actually thought it came across as very nervous, as if his voice was about to break at any moment but he somehow kept himself on the cusp of it and never quite lost it which I guess made it a little more emotional.
Yup. Pence actually believe all that religious bollocks, Trump is just in it for the win/power.
I wish he still had the old Kennedy Trans-Atlantic accent
If Sanders throws his full support, behind the candidate, it will go a long way.
Booker? I hope not. Just don't trust that wannabe Obama.
Al Franken recently improved his profile and could sell the outsider pretty well.
Interesting, I thought he came across well. But then I am judging him largely against our rubbish homegrown politicians. I once read a very good article (that I've since lost all evidence of) that argued the difference in American and British oratorism was all down to our differing religious pulpit cultures. And that the Obamas, Clintons and Kennedys all came from a tradition of charismatic evangelical preaching, whilst ours were the product of bland provincial vicars, or Rowan Atkinson sketches about bumbling clerics. It definitely stands up when you think about it.
On the other hand, stick any of those Americans in a high-intensity Westminster back-and-forth and watch them crumble on the spot.
from people that work with him, I know he has no interest in the Presidency. But he has very impressive in various senate hearings. Very factual and tough.
Pushes it to the limit.
Proud to have him as our Senator.
I'm now bizarrely interested in knowing who Tony Blair's local priest was.
Yeah, the Kennedy's are very highly regarded and I could actually see there being a decent number of current older Trump voters who went for JFK back in their youthful 60s.
Plus, it's kind of hard to attack for Trump. I mean...granted, he did get away with insulting a disabled guy and the family of a dead soldier...but if he starts attacking the Kennedy family then I think a lot of people will really sour on him. Hopefully.
Think anyone except Tulsi Gabbard would be good at this point.
I dunno, Westminster's always struck me as little more than a big public school debate forum. Any kind of lame zinger and your 'home' bench will "ooooh" and "aaaahhh" like a gaggle of wet pubescents at a disappointing playground fight.
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