WTF was he meant to do? Throw them away?
WTF was he meant to do? Throw them away?
Doesn’t surprise me, we seem to have a lot of looniesIn Ireland. We are looking into reporting her.
Did you read about that GP in Kildare who is refusing to vaccinate his patients because he doesn’t believe in it?
Thank you Penna, from what I’ve heard my aunt thinks the world of this nurse, but my cousin who is the closest to her is absolutely raging over it so I’ve sent that link on to her.@2cents, here's the info you need to report that disgraceful nurse:
https://www.nmbi.ie/Complaints/Making-a-Complaint/Complaints-Process
It'll be a bit difficult as I assume there are no independent witnesses and of course, nothing in writing. However, your 90-year-old relative won't have come up with that nonsense on her own accord.
Good, I hope your cousin acts on it. The nurse might be kind to your aunt, but if she's saying this to her she's saying it to other people, too. Elderly people trust their carers, the carers have a duty to give proper information to them.Thank you Penna, from what I’ve heard my aunt thinks the world of this nurse, but my cousin who is the closest to her is absolutely raging over it so I’ve sent that link on to her.
its ridiculous - you will now find Vaccines being thrown away, or perhaps worse people being turned down, because it involves opening a new vial, with no prospect of being able to administer the remaining vaccines.He should be applauded, not admonished. He may have saved lives by doing what he did.
Yeah. What a gowl.Did you read about that did in Kildare who is refusing to vaccinate his patients because he doesn’t believe in it?
Irish slang. Think it’s from Limerick. Means a twat. In every sense of the word!
WTF is a gowl? I like it though.
All approved vaccines are safe. Their instincts are correct. Get them vaccinated with whatever is available ASAP as the risk of getting vaccinated is far far smaller than the risk of not being vaccinated.Well i am in a bit of dilemma right now, tomorrow i should report my parents and put them on the list for vaccination ( 65 and 71 years old ). Both of them far from being healthy healthy. Problem is, at first they wanted Russian one, turns out they cant get that one due their age and now here is a kicker, seems there is no immidate option but to sign them up for Chinese one. Not gonna lie, Synopharm or w/e the feck name is, looks scuffed. Pf/Moderna seems not an option at the moment.
They pushing to get a vaccine, i am not gonna try to stop them but not feeling with ez right now.
My biggest concern is level of protection, containing my dad for last year or so was such a pain the ass, attitude of not taking it 100% serious and i knew that if he brings it back at their home, he might stand a chance but doubt my mom would survive it. I just know the moment he gets his shot and shit, he will go full Rambo mode.All approved vaccines are safe. Their instincts are correct. Get them vaccinated with whatever is available ASAP as the risk of getting vaccinated is far far smaller than the risk of not being vaccinated.
He really needs to assume there is no protection until at least 2 weeks after the 2nd shot (assuming there are 2) and as he is older preferably a week (or 3 longer) as immunity will likely build more slowly. Lay it on thick - tell him he could kill your mum unless he behaves responsibly and you will never forgive him if that happens.My biggest concern is level of protection, containing my dad for last year or so was such a pain the ass, attitude of not taking it 100% serious and i knew that if he brings it back at their home, he might stand a chance but doubt my mom would survive it. I just know the moment he gets his shot and shit, he will go full Rambo mode.
Either way, thank you for reply.
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Good to see further confirmation that the UK variant is vaccine sensitive, I guess.A bit more on the SA variant and the mRNA vaccines. Again consistent with the idea that previous infection with the original SAR2 isn't protective against the SA strain, and that the vaccines see their efficacy fall (at least against mild/moderate disease)
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It's happening here, although nobody been convicted but been a little uproar. e.g. the Cheltenham players/staff who got vaccinated. Been a few complaints that there is no clear policy on what to do, some GPs and centres have been throwing out doses. Some have been liberal and offered them out for people who can get to GP within the time period.WTF was he meant to do? Throw them away?
Yeah I have friends who are massively low down on the priority list who have been vaccinated because of that. Officially or unofficially, the government have seemingly agreed that ordinary staff at vaccination hubs can be vaccinated with left over stock.It's happening here, although nobody been convicted but been a little uproar. e.g. the Cheltenham players/staff who got vaccinated. Been a few complaints that there is no clear policy on what to do, some GPs and centres have been throwing out doses. Some have been liberal and offered them out for people who can get to GP within the time period.
Hopefully, for the guy in texas, a decent judge throws out the case.
If matures are your thing then sure.So hang around at a vaccination hub at closing and you might get lucky?
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Forgive me for being a complete thick but how is that graph good?Tweet
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It’s showing that the vaccinations are working because older people have been vaccinated and therefore are not being admitted for serious symptomsForgive me for being a complete thick but how is that graph good?
Its only showing that the age of people in hospital is declining? Or am I missing something.
Is there another line for hospital admissions and actual cases?
Agreed. You can't say there is no impact of the second dose in that data. Bloody brilliant that it seems to be working really well for the elderly.That’s lovely data. So encouraging to see. Although I’d quibble with his final bullet point. Just look at the historical data. Been a number of similar bumps that end abruptly (e.g. Oct-Nov last year). It’s the really sharp prolonged descent that treads new ground. And that will definitely include immunity as a result of both doses, seeing as it accelerates from about a week after the second doses are rolled out.
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That’s a weird turn of phrase. “If we need to”. Why the hell wouldn’t you need to?!?Tweet
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My mum got her's on Saturday morning too. Her arm wasn't that sore and didn't get any symptoms. She did report a weird feeling of ants climbing up her spine and running around inside her head for a few minutes on Sunday but nothing else.My mum got her first vaccination (Pfizer) on Saturday there (she's 65), in and out in less than half an hour. The staff at the Ulster Hospital in Belfast were getting everyone to sit for 15 minutes after getting jabbed in case there was any immediate reaction. Other than a sore arm and feeling a wee bit under the weather for a couple of days she's had no side affects.
Death and hospitalisation levels should drop significantly in the short, and long, term. So basically live with this and all variants like the flu.I saw a couple of articles about people getting reinfected with the SA variant.. and that the vaccines might be less effective against it..
And other articles saying they dont expect the virus to go away, ie, cases go down to 0.. most people will have some level of immunity to it and we'll have to live with it.
A couple of questions..
1) how much of a concern is it in the short term? and
2)What is the likelihood of something like this (a worse version of the SA variant) starting the whole thing all over again in the future.. 2-3 years from now..