Had forgotten all about the WTC 1993 attack. On the other point my idea is that many people can't understand why it is so.
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The White Supremacist Terrorist Threat
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Fair point. But there's a lot of other factors at play too. Since the 1980s there's been a big shift in the way that opiates are prescribed, having previously been restricted to cancer pain only. Which is down to more than just marketing. There's been a shift in medical best practice, partly due to a realisation that a lot of the alternatives to opioids (e.g. NSAIDs) have problems of their own.
At the end of the day, opioids have been around for donkeys years and are a useful treatment option if used appropriately but are vulnerable to being abused. Same as benzodiazepines. They're also both inextricably linked with illegal drugs. Whenever a segment of society starts abusing more illegal drugs then prescription drug abuse will also increase. Which is why the Oxycontin epidemic is more or less a non-issue amongst the well off.
You sure about that...?
Pretty much, yeah. It's mainly an issue for the rural poor. What's interesting is that the urban poor are less afflicted than those in the country. Can only assume that's because they already had easy access to all the drugs they could possibly need.
I'll just leave this here....
I love the way they are focusing on the actual tattoo as if that's what's the big problem here, rather than why the feck some one who isn't a White Supremacist and Nazi sympathiser would have a Nazi symbol tattooed on their arm.
Oh and he also has some interesting hobbies:
I love the way they are focusing on the actual tattoo as if that's what's the big problem here, rather than why the feck some one who isn't a White Supremacist and Nazi sympathiser would have a Nazi symbol tattooed on their arm.
Oh and he also has some interesting hobbies:
It's pc gone mad. These days, you can't even be a Nazi without being called a Nazi.
I bet they had some rousing sing-a-longs
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I don’t think the facts match up with your explanation particularly well, but this is not the thread to discuss this in detail. “Dreamland” by Sam Quinones is an exceptionally well written book that discusses the issue in detail. I highly recommend reading it, if you are interested in the topic.
In this case the killer seems to be a white supremacist. I really hope, that police and intelligence services don’t have a massive blind-spot on their right eye.
I don’t think the facts match up with your explanation particularly well, but this is not the thread to discuss this in detail. “Dreamland” by Sam Quinones is an exceptionally well written book that discusses the issue in detail. I highly recommend reading it, if you are interested in the topic.
In this case the killer seems to be a white supremacist. I really hope, that police and intelligence services don’t have a massive blind-spot on their right eye.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
Was the article I meant to post above.
For all the screaming by Trump about "you can't say Islamic terrorism", there are 2-3 agencies seemingly dedicated to tracking and killing it. Here they literally destroyed their own investigation because of triggered conservatives.
It's a bit off topic but I think things are much more complicated than that. There's also the litigious element that relies on people being in a great deal of pain. An opiate script is good evidence of that and for many people a course of these painkillers leads to addiction. This is just one of many factors in a very complicated problem.
https://thinkprogress.org/republica...rorists-are-different-24c7fc75e255#.o7w7suuz2
congressman differentiating (rightly or wrongly) between extremists who are white compared to Muslim
congressman differentiating (rightly or wrongly) between extremists who are white compared to Muslim
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ers_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_since_1995.html
A list of attacks carried out, many by white supremacists, often killing police officers
A list of attacks carried out, many by white supremacists, often killing police officers
Dude just wanted to use explosives on muslims...that ain't so bad.
Good thing they're no longer focusing on right wing terrorists and terrorist groups too
Good thing they're no longer focusing on right wing terrorists and terrorist groups too
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vandalism...arson...no deaths as of yet, so that's always a good thing.
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This is crazy...made the news at the time - and then I kind of forgot about it.
Interestingly the Judge at sentencing said he was shocked they weren't arrested on the day!
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They waved the Confederate flag and a shotgun at a black child’s party. Now they’re headed to prison on terrorism charges.
By Ben Guarino February 28 at 8:13 AM
In July 2015, a group of 15 people calling themselves “Respect the Flag” boarded several pickup trucks, each outfitted with Confederate and American flags, and embarked on a drive around Douglasville, Ga., a small city west of Atlanta. Tensions around displaying the Confederate flag were already high. Barely a month had passed since Dylann Roof, the avowed white supremacist who had posed with the Confederate battle flag, killed nine black Americans at a church in Charleston.
And the small “Respect the Flag” group went far beyond a display of Confederate pride. Hatred, a Georgia judge said during a sentencing Monday, propelled the group as they descended upon a child’s birthday party and unleashed a storm of death threats and anti-black slurs, and pointed a shotgun.
“Their actions were motivated by racial hatred,” said Judge William McClain of the Douglas County Superior Court,according to the Associated Press. Georgia legislature does not include a law regarding hate crimes.
The 10 men and five women who made up “Respect the Flag” harassed black drivers as well as customers at a Walmart and a convenience store.
Then they happened upon a birthday party being held in Douglasville for an 8-year-old black child. Witnesses told the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit group that tracks hate crimes, that after driving the trucks across the property belonging to the child’s grandmother, the men exited the vehicles. The “Respect the Flag” group began to yell racial epithets and shout death threats.
“They even threatened to kill children at the party,” according to astatement issued by Douglas County District Attorney Brian Fortner in early February. One of the men, 26-year-old Jose Ismael Torres, pointed a black pump shotgun at the partygoers, prosecutors said. Several panicked citizens called the police.
“Everywhere you went, 911 call centers were flooded with calls,” the judge said, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
“I was scared,” Melissa Alford, the host of the party, told the Southern Poverty Law Center in October, a few days after the group’s members were indicted. “My first thought was if these people start shooting at us, we wouldn’t be able to get all the kids inside the house in time.”
The defendants in the case argued that a party attendee triggered the incident by hurling an object at one of the trucks. Cellphone video taken at the scene showed otherwise, the judge said.
“If you drive around town with a Confederate flag, yelling the n-word, you know how it’s going to be interpreted,” the judge said, per Atlanta’s Fox 5. “It’s inexplicable to me that you weren’t arrested by the police that day.”
The members of the group, two of whom pleaded guilty, were convicted in early February.
Following the convictions, the Douglas County district attorney issued a statement clarifying that this case was not an issue of the First Amendment but of harassment.
“Many people tried to make the case about simply flying the Confederate battle flag. However, it wasn’t about that at all,” Fortner said in the statement. “Instead, this case was about a group of people riding around our community, drinking alcohol, harassing and intimidating our citizens because of the color of their skin.”
The judge handed down the final two sentences Monday. Torres was sentenced to 20 years, serving 13 in prison. The mother of his children, Kayla Rae Norton, 25, was sentenced to 15 years and will serve six. After their prison terms, they will be banished from Douglas County. They were found in violation of the Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act; Norton was found guilty of violating the act as well as a count of making terroristic threats. The jury convicted Torres of three counts of aggravated assault, one count of making terroristic threats and one count of violating the act.
The scene in the courtroom was an emotional one. Both Torres and Norton cried as their sentences were announced, the Associated Press reported. Norton apologized to the victims.
One of the victims, Hyesha Bryant, expressed her forgiveness. “I forgive you,” Bryant said. “And to your family, I’m sorry it had to come this far.”
Interestingly the Judge at sentencing said he was shocked they weren't arrested on the day!
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They waved the Confederate flag and a shotgun at a black child’s party. Now they’re headed to prison on terrorism charges.
By Ben Guarino February 28 at 8:13 AM
In July 2015, a group of 15 people calling themselves “Respect the Flag” boarded several pickup trucks, each outfitted with Confederate and American flags, and embarked on a drive around Douglasville, Ga., a small city west of Atlanta. Tensions around displaying the Confederate flag were already high. Barely a month had passed since Dylann Roof, the avowed white supremacist who had posed with the Confederate battle flag, killed nine black Americans at a church in Charleston.
And the small “Respect the Flag” group went far beyond a display of Confederate pride. Hatred, a Georgia judge said during a sentencing Monday, propelled the group as they descended upon a child’s birthday party and unleashed a storm of death threats and anti-black slurs, and pointed a shotgun.
“Their actions were motivated by racial hatred,” said Judge William McClain of the Douglas County Superior Court,according to the Associated Press. Georgia legislature does not include a law regarding hate crimes.
The 10 men and five women who made up “Respect the Flag” harassed black drivers as well as customers at a Walmart and a convenience store.
Then they happened upon a birthday party being held in Douglasville for an 8-year-old black child. Witnesses told the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit group that tracks hate crimes, that after driving the trucks across the property belonging to the child’s grandmother, the men exited the vehicles. The “Respect the Flag” group began to yell racial epithets and shout death threats.
“They even threatened to kill children at the party,” according to astatement issued by Douglas County District Attorney Brian Fortner in early February. One of the men, 26-year-old Jose Ismael Torres, pointed a black pump shotgun at the partygoers, prosecutors said. Several panicked citizens called the police.
“Everywhere you went, 911 call centers were flooded with calls,” the judge said, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
“I was scared,” Melissa Alford, the host of the party, told the Southern Poverty Law Center in October, a few days after the group’s members were indicted. “My first thought was if these people start shooting at us, we wouldn’t be able to get all the kids inside the house in time.”
The defendants in the case argued that a party attendee triggered the incident by hurling an object at one of the trucks. Cellphone video taken at the scene showed otherwise, the judge said.
“If you drive around town with a Confederate flag, yelling the n-word, you know how it’s going to be interpreted,” the judge said, per Atlanta’s Fox 5. “It’s inexplicable to me that you weren’t arrested by the police that day.”
The members of the group, two of whom pleaded guilty, were convicted in early February.
Following the convictions, the Douglas County district attorney issued a statement clarifying that this case was not an issue of the First Amendment but of harassment.
“Many people tried to make the case about simply flying the Confederate battle flag. However, it wasn’t about that at all,” Fortner said in the statement. “Instead, this case was about a group of people riding around our community, drinking alcohol, harassing and intimidating our citizens because of the color of their skin.”
The judge handed down the final two sentences Monday. Torres was sentenced to 20 years, serving 13 in prison. The mother of his children, Kayla Rae Norton, 25, was sentenced to 15 years and will serve six. After their prison terms, they will be banished from Douglas County. They were found in violation of the Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act; Norton was found guilty of violating the act as well as a count of making terroristic threats. The jury convicted Torres of three counts of aggravated assault, one count of making terroristic threats and one count of violating the act.
The scene in the courtroom was an emotional one. Both Torres and Norton cried as their sentences were announced, the Associated Press reported. Norton apologized to the victims.
One of the victims, Hyesha Bryant, expressed her forgiveness. “I forgive you,” Bryant said. “And to your family, I’m sorry it had to come this far.”
Result!
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cnuts
Too many political careers are built on dog whistling so nothing will be done.
I’ve never heard about «Atomwaffen» until now and had a quick read up.. There are so many cnuts in the world, if only they would feck off.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...st-far-right-foul-mouthed-red-pilling-star-is
YouTube’s Newest Far-Right, Foul-Mouthed, Red-Pilling Star Is A 14-Year-Old Girl
"Soph" has nearly a million followers on the giant video platform. The site's executives only have themselves to blame.
What does a 14-year-old girl dressed in a chador have to say on YouTube to amass more than 800,000 followers?
How about this: “I’ve become a devout follower of the Prophet Muhammad. Suffice to say, I’ve been having a feck ton of fun. Of course, I get raped by my 40-year-old husband every so often and I have to worship a black cube to indirectly please an ancient Canaanite god — but at least I get to go to San Fran and stone the shit out of some gays, and the cops can’t do anything about it because California is a crypto-caliphate.”
Or how about, simply, “Kill yourself, faggot.”
Yes, if you want a vision of the future YouTube is midwifing, imagine a cherubic white girl mocking Islamic dress while lecturing her hundreds of thousands of followers about Muslim “rape gangs,” social justice “homos,” and the evils wrought by George Soros — under the thin guise of edgy internet comedy, forever.
Actually, don’t imagine it. Watch it. It’s already here.
YouTube’s Newest Far-Right, Foul-Mouthed, Red-Pilling Star Is A 14-Year-Old Girl
"Soph" has nearly a million followers on the giant video platform. The site's executives only have themselves to blame.
What does a 14-year-old girl dressed in a chador have to say on YouTube to amass more than 800,000 followers?
How about this: “I’ve become a devout follower of the Prophet Muhammad. Suffice to say, I’ve been having a feck ton of fun. Of course, I get raped by my 40-year-old husband every so often and I have to worship a black cube to indirectly please an ancient Canaanite god — but at least I get to go to San Fran and stone the shit out of some gays, and the cops can’t do anything about it because California is a crypto-caliphate.”
Or how about, simply, “Kill yourself, faggot.”
Yes, if you want a vision of the future YouTube is midwifing, imagine a cherubic white girl mocking Islamic dress while lecturing her hundreds of thousands of followers about Muslim “rape gangs,” social justice “homos,” and the evils wrought by George Soros — under the thin guise of edgy internet comedy, forever.
Actually, don’t imagine it. Watch it. It’s already here.
she looks like ben shapiro
Has a more masculine voice than Shapiro as well.
How about that freedom of speech eh?
Dude.
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At the risk of being pedantic, can we not use the term lone wolf? It is quite a cool sounding term, can we call them cnuts?
This bit is on the money.
I mean, she's wrong about "filtering out the truth" when what she's actually doing is being manipulated by an echo chamber but this is the world we get when we reject MSM.
Social incels.
why mass murder can be funny.
Her rant just screams of a kid trying to be cool or different, not much difference than the woke generation.
It's probably just a phase. She'll have a moment where she realizes she's getting an unhealthy amount of attention from twenty-somethings, and turn away from it. Someone will show up at her house, or something.
It's either that, or she turns into an actual fascist.
Wow, I went a bit down the rabbit hole reading about this "Soph" thing and stumbled upon Nick Fuentes.
What the feck is wrong with the world, that tiny children have become brainwashed in to these hateful little shits. My god.
What the feck is wrong with the world, that tiny children have become brainwashed in to these hateful little shits. My god.
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A party which is both nationalist....and socialist. Hmmm, wonder what a good name for that would be.
No one takes closet far right extremists seriously either. It's 100 percent a thing and you encounter these people every day. They arent necessarily bad people - theyll be nice to you and waiters etc so no one thinks of them as evil
It's just sad and no one truly cares.
It's just sad and no one truly cares.
These so called groups of jihadists were originally state sponsored terrorism against certain countries. This was proxy war. The US used it, The Saudis use it and the Iranians use it etc. I do not think so far right wing extremists are state sponsored that is probably why it is so called " lone wolf". If it is more than one does it become a " Wolf Pack"?
I think they sang this song but with some verses deleted until 2017 when it was banned.