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Penny for Adam Cole’s thoughts when his highest supporter is now the head creative of WWE.
I doubt he’s that arsed considering he now gets to live with his partner full-time and was getting overexposed from his big push in AEW.

It’s the likes of Gargano, Ciampa, The Artist Formerly Known as Pete Dunne, and the new, lightweight WALTER who are the likely beneficiaries. It would be nice to return to the beginning of AEW when there was both AEW and a WWE show that made use of the best in-ring guys.

Just get the belt off Roman quickly, if he’s decided that he wants to be the new Lesnar, and build at least one weekly show that is worth watching.
 

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I doubt he’s that arsed considering he now gets to live with his partner full-time and was getting overexposed from his big push in AEW.

It’s the likes of Gargano, Ciampa, The Artist Formerly Known as Pete Dunne, and the new, lightweight WALTER who are the likely beneficiaries. It would be nice to return to the beginning of AEW when there was both AEW and a WWE show that made use of the best in-ring guys.

Just get the belt off Roman quickly, if he’s decided that he wants to be the new Lesnar, and build at least one weekly show that is worth watching.
I dunno, part of his exit was down to some manager bullshit and cutting his hair. Having a huge fan of his book the show is better than playing video games on twitch
I think we’ll see a lot more ex NXT guys open for a return now with HHH at the helm. If that’s the way to go is a different matter. Hopefully we see HBK take the step up from NXT or at least have a better transition between the brands
 

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Penny for Adam Cole’s thoughts when his highest supporter is now the head creative of WWE.
He can always go back, it's not like he'd be in a better position now having been Keith Lee's manager with a new name, which was the reported role WWE had for him.

The turnaround with HHH is strange. Is the idea that Vince was driving force behind reducing his role and changing NXT? And now that Vince is gone HHH is back to being heir-elect?
 

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He can always go back, it's not like he'd be in a better position now having been Keith Lee's manager with a new name, which was the reported role WWE had for him.

The turnaround with HHH is strange. Is the idea that Vince was driving force behind reducing his role and changing NXT? And now that Vince is gone HHH is back to being heir-elect?
I’ll be honest, my hatred of wrestling journalism is clear with my posts so there’s no way any of us can know. It’s been all over the social media accounts that Vince is done for fraud for using company money but now it’s announced that it simply isn’t true. It’s not fraud at all. At what stage can Vince sue for slander over the last month?

At this stage I’m not even sure HHH is back at the company! But apparently he’s head of creative now and there were many reports way back when about he and Vince butting heads about how NXT stars were misused in the main roster.
Again, who the feck knows at this point
 

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I’ll be honest, my hatred of wrestling journalism is clear with my posts so there’s no way any of us can know. It’s been all over the social media accounts that Vince is done for fraud for using company money but now it’s announced that it simply isn’t true. It’s not fraud at all. At what stage can Vince sue for slander over the last month?
What on earth are you jabbering on about? WWE are literally having to re-file four years’ worth of accounts because they were fraudulent due to Vince’s hush money. The whole reason it seems that Vince quit when he did was because of the news today.

Your hatred of wrestling journalism is a little weird.
 

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I'm mixed on Triple H as new head of creative (if, indeed, Vince's retirement is more than just a PR smokescreen). His booking in NXT 1.0 was solid, sensible and generally optimised wrestlers' strengths. Weekly TV was really quite dull but it built well to what were some excellent PPVs in terms of in ring quality and the 'sporting' feel of wrestling.

HOWEVER, NXT did turn into an indie super fed with work rate prized over stories and actual character developments. The ring entrances were usually very impressive but barely anyone had any depth or personality beyond that. And, as I said, weekly NXT shows were generally snooze fests with some decent moments scattered throughout.

Having said this, I'm glad WWE should hopefully freshen up and there's a booker who generally sets up to maximise the talent and take titles/matches seriously rather than make everyone bar a select few look silly. I hope Triple H draws upon the creative team from NXT 2.0 as, in my view, they have done a far better job than NXT 1.0 of establishing actual characters. It's been hokey and raw in places (though that's partly because it's an actual developmental now rather than a glorified indy) but it's been exciting, fun, different and everyone has a discernible character more than just 'good wrestler'.
 

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I'm mixed on Triple H as new head of creative (if, indeed, Vince's retirement is more than just a PR smokescreen). His booking in NXT 1.0 was solid, sensible and generally optimised wrestlers' strengths. Weekly TV was really quite dull but it built well to what were some excellent PPVs in terms of in ring quality and the 'sporting' feel of wrestling.

HOWEVER, NXT did turn into an indie super fed with work rate prized over stories and actual character developments. The ring entrances were usually very impressive but barely anyone had any depth or personality beyond that. And, as I said, weekly NXT shows were generally snooze fests with some decent moments scattered throughout.

Having said this, I'm glad WWE should hopefully freshen up and there's a booker who generally sets up to maximise the talent and take titles/matches seriously rather than make everyone bar a select few look silly. I hope Triple H draws upon the creative team from NXT 2.0 as, in my view, they have done a far better job than NXT 1.0 of establishing actual characters. It's been hokey and raw in places (though that's partly because it's an actual developmental now rather than a glorified indy) but it's been exciting, fun, different and everyone has a discernible character more than just 'good wrestler'.
You cannot seriously believe his retirement is essentially a work?
 

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Nope but I also can't see Vince totally staying away and not getting involved. Especially in creative.
How does he get involved in creative?

I think people a struggling to fathom that he's not the boss anymore. He's not in charge. His only claim to company is being the majority shareholder, and shareholders don't get involved in creative.
 

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Anyone actually watching any wrestling then?

FTR v Briscoes probably the match of the year so far. What a tear the former have been on recently.
 

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In all of this change, I just hope that NxT UK isn't forgotten about, it would be great to see more interaction with the stars of that show/brand, and the other shows/brands.
 

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I keep seeing people on Twitter saying the PG era is dead and TV14 is returning

Can’t see any actual news / confirmation though through Google. When is this supposedly happening?

Or is it just people getting carried away with rumours?
 

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I keep seeing people on Twitter saying the PG era is dead and TV14 is returning

Can’t see any actual news / confirmation though through Google. When is this supposedly happening?

Or is it just people getting carried away with rumours?
I believe it's the TV channel Raw is on that have classed it at TV14 however I'm not sure if the show will be or not.
 

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Penny for Adam Cole’s thoughts when his highest supporter is now the head creative of WWE.
Big bonus for him and anyone working at AEW. Cole gets to work with his best friends, probably wins some titles and his best matches and then when his contract is due he can look at the offers from both sides and decide whats best for him, like they all should.

If theres a genuine chance that WWE are going to push you, examples of what you'd want being Cody, Theory and Walter and anyone who got the intercontinental title or better within say 2 years of main roster debut then great for them. The problem is its only a few people who get that and most are lost in the shuffle or have a 3 week push and then are forgotten about. Or something like Riccochet who joined NXT in 2018, moved to main roster in 2019 and it took him until 2022 to get a proper push and win the IC title. Guys on the backburner like that will more than likely have more success in NJPW or AEW.

Who HHH's guys will be when he has the entire main roster to work with remains to be seen. It could easily be that when he has Roman, Drew, Brock, Lashley etc then Cole isnt someone he wants at the top. He simply didnt have them for NXT.

And yes this goes for MJF too. It would seem far more likely that he would be pushed as hard in WWE with Vince gone as he has been in AEW. Or he might not be.
 

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Big bonus for him and anyone working at AEW. Cole gets to work with his best friends, probably wins some titles and his best matches and then when his contract is due he can look at the offers from both sides and decide whats best for him, like they all should.

If theres a genuine chance that WWE are going to push you, examples of what you'd want being Cody, Theory and Walter and anyone who got the intercontinental title or better within say 2 years of main roster debut then great for them. The problem is its only a few people who get that and most are lost in the shuffle or have a 3 week push and then are forgotten about. Or something like Riccochet who joined NXT in 2018, moved to main roster in 2019 and it took him until 2022 to get a proper push and win the IC title. Guys on the backburner like that will more than likely have more success in NJPW or AEW.

Who HHH's guys will be when he has the entire main roster to work with remains to be seen. It could easily be that when he has Roman, Drew, Brock, Lashley etc then Cole isnt someone he wants at the top. He simply didnt have them for NXT.

And yes this goes for MJF too. It would seem far more likely that he would be pushed as hard in WWE with Vince gone as he has been in AEW. Or he might not be.
I don’t think you’ll see that big of a push for Cole now, he’s been a bit exposed at AEW.
I think FTR are now guaranteed to return next year (around when their contracts up) I think Moxleys contract is nearly up since he’s reportedly working the dates added in due to his rehab away.
I don’t think you’ll see smaller stars dominate the main roster as NXT but HHH did set out to make NXT an alternative and that was the alternative. Plus this entire college athlete recruitment drive was his idea so he’ll probably go big on that in the future instead of going back 3/4 years when Cole is actually available.
 

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I don’t think you’ll see that big of a push for Cole now, he’s been a bit exposed at AEW.
I think FTR are now guaranteed to return next year (around when their contracts up) I think Moxleys contract is nearly up since he’s reportedly working the dates added in due to his rehab away.
I don’t think you’ll see smaller stars dominate the main roster as NXT but HHH did set out to make NXT an alternative and that was the alternative. Plus this entire college athlete recruitment drive was his idea so he’ll probably go big on that in the future instead of going back 3/4 years when Cole is actually available.
You think so? I'd be surprised if they did. Seems like they're having the time of their life wrestling for different promotions, winning different titles and putting on career defining matches. They've "been there and done that" in WWE and tbh there's no tag teams there that I can see who are on their level.

Likewise I don't see Mox going back either but you never know. It's just nice for them to have options now.
 

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You think so? I'd be surprised if they did. Seems like they're having the time of their life wrestling for different promotions, winning different titles and putting on career defining matches. They've "been there and done that" in WWE and tbh there's no tag teams there that I can see who are on their level.

Likewise I don't see Mox going back either but you never know. It's just nice for them to have options now.
They already said they would go back if the time was right and HHH was their biggest supporter.
Just a few months ago momentum grew that they were returning and Tony immediately took up an extra year option. It’s reported that there were talks and that rushed Tony into activating it.
Again, who knows really.
 

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I cant see FTR returning unless WWE has tag teams for them to face.
Unless they just get a 'cant turn down offer' that will benefit their family but have them professionally lacking.
Theres a possibility they may say 'lets go and try the split up' as a lot can happen in a year.

I dont think you can say anything is guaranteed in wrestling.
 

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They already said they would go back if the time was right and HHH was their biggest supporter.
Just a few months ago momentum grew that they were returning and Tony immediately took up an extra year option. It’s reported that there were talks and that rushed Tony into activating it.
Again, who knows really.
These reports weren't by wrestling journalists I assume, as only a couple of posts ago you hated them.

HHH being in control creatively will make WWE a more attractive proposition, no doubt, but isn't it Nick Khan who controls the purse strings still? From what I understand, he was behind the plethora of releases over the past few years, so they won't be throwing money at everyone still. Hopefully there will be enough room in both companies for plenty of folks to shine, without either company hoarding all the talent.
 

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Doesn't work given the amount of insane protection Vince gave Roman.... you know, it only took like 15 years to finally work with him. I would of been a success quicker, and I mean that.
 

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They already said they would go back if the time was right and HHH was their biggest supporter.
Just a few months ago momentum grew that they were returning and Tony immediately took up an extra year option. It’s reported that there were talks and that rushed Tony into activating it.
Again, who knows really.
Serious question - as a wrestling fan why would you want them to go back?
 

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I did like the comment that theory got downgraded on raw to hypothesis
 

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Sensational episode of Dynamite. One of the very best of them all. Moxley vs Rush and Danielson vs Garcia banged.

All of the Ricky Starks stuff was absolutely fantastic too. Just perfect pro wrestling. Looks like he is going to get a big push now.

Jericho beating Kingston feels more acceptable now he's Moxley's next contender. Kingston was still super over with the live crowd. I wonder if he will get involved with that.

We should be in for some fantastic long TV matches if they get the Trios tournament done right. So many good teams for that.
 

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Rollins v Riddle is off, and the angle on raw where Seth curb stomps Riddle on steps is a work injury for Riddle, by all accounts it’s Seth that injured,

And because he’s injured Becky has pulled out of her title shot with Bianca, Rhea reportedly coming in to face Bianca in a a match that was meant to happen at money in the bank, we’ll see.
 

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Rollins v Riddle is off, and the angle on raw where Seth curb stomps Riddle on steps is a work injury for Riddle, by all accounts it’s Seth that injured,

And because he’s injured Becky has pulled out of her title shot with Bianca, Rhea reportedly coming in to face Bianca in a a match that was meant to happen at money in the bank, we’ll see.
Why would Becky pull out because of that, seems weird.
 

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Sensational episode of Dynamite. One of the very best of them all. Moxley vs Rush and Danielson vs Garcia banged.

All of the Ricky Starks stuff was absolutely fantastic too. Just perfect pro wrestling. Looks like he is going to get a big push now.

Jericho beating Kingston feels more acceptable now he's Moxley's next contender. Kingston was still super over with the live crowd. I wonder if he will get involved with that.

We should be in for some fantastic long TV matches if they get the Trios tournament done right. So many good teams for that.
Yeah really enjoyed that. Great matches, great promo's and a few great twists.

I seem to say it every week but Ricky Starks is the one. His pre match promo package was hilarious and his promo after the title match was fire.
 

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Yeah really enjoyed that. Great matches, great promo's and a few great twists.

I seem to say it every week but Ricky Starks is the one. His pre match promo package was hilarious and his promo after the title match was fire.
I fancied rewatching all of the Starks/Danhausen/Hook/Hobbs segments this morning and it is so so good. Every guy involved has benefitted from the angle and it made for great entertainment.

Hobbs turning on Starks is such a great heel move because fans had really wanted to see them win the tag titles. Shocking and I want more.
 

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I fancied rewatching all of the Starks/Danhausen/Hook/Hobbs segments this morning and it is so so good. Every guy involved has benefitted from the angle and it made for great entertainment.

Hobbs turning on Starks is such a great heel move because fans had really wanted to see them win the tag titles. Shocking and I want more.
Yeah I did not see that coming (Well I did because it got spoiled for me on socials). Taz seemed genuinely choked up as well. Great booking!