‘Thank you Vince!’
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Dunno, this doesn't sit right with me.
Posted this a while ago after the first allegations came out and it turned to be true.
Brock was pulled because they don’t need him to pop a rating tonight
Carney as shit
Carney as shit
We all got worked. Alvarez in the mud. Elite level trolling with the Goldberg stuff.
Perhaps Brock's finally going over?
Perhaps Brock's finally going over?
Brock probably got a payday out of it. He's a good businessman
Twitter’s in the mud. 
All the Sasha and Naomi fans were clamouring for hours for Brock to get punished and calling WWE out for double standards
All the Sasha and Naomi fans were clamouring for hours for Brock to get punished and calling WWE out for double standardsWrestling journalism in a nutshell.
What's worse, there's a legitimate ITK on squaredcircle who confirmed it too 
Absolute fecking morons forchanting that, and Steph is vile for doing it too, knowing what he did. They should have just done nothing about his retirement.
To be fair it’s a cooperate moral no-no? Why should the fans hate him for a consensual, sexual relationship?
It’s almost as if a hothead could have left and then been talked back into returning within the timespan of several hours.What's worse, there's a legitimate ITK on squaredcircle who confirmed it too
One of the less savoury aspects of the Internet is the desperate need to pile onto journalists, in football, wrestling and elsewhere, when you think you have got an angle to question the credibility of someone you have an irrational obsession with. There’s a chunk of people who seemingly can never fathom that circumstances may change and/or individuals can change their viewpoint, simply because they are too stubborn to ever think rationally.
What is that journalist is constantly getting WWE news wrong? Why didn’t the sources confirm he returned? What was with the Goldberg reports?
Alvarez is a man who criticises WWE without watching the product, which he’s proud of. That’s the man that should be given the benefit of the doubt?
It’s ok to be caught out. The rush to defend dirt sheet writers is far worse than calling them out when they’re spectacularly wrong.
It’s been a rough few weeks for wrestling journalism. They’re only gossip writers and we have to wait until real reporters investigations to get anything of substance.
Probably a significant majority, relatively speaking to the body of invested wrestling fans, don’t watch the main WWE shows live, if at all. They have little wrestling, are generally awful and completely advert ridden. Why would you, especially if you don’t live on the east coast of the US?
As for the rest of your post, you are lumping hundreds of people into one, which renders the discussion pointless.
Can’t be that much of a significant majority since a hell of a lot more people watch WWE than all the other promotions combined.
You'd have a solid point if we weren't talking about Alvarez.
Every credible journalist substantiated it and a ITK with a proven track record confirmed it, so there’s three options: A) Everyone made up the same story for no reason; B) Everyone was fed the same story to work the Internet and marks; or C) Lesnar’s reaction was legitimate, but in the period between him reacting and appearing on Smackdown, cooler heads prevailed. After all, Vince is only “gone” as far as any majority shareholder could be. Everyone there is still working for the man.
It’s not pointless. Wrestling gossip writers are pointless. Being played by the MJF story and the private plane nonsense was bad enough but their credibility is completely shot to pieces over the last 3 months. Alvarez pulled the same bullshit over Rousey storming out of the hall of fame ceremony only for it to be revealed they were just going home to put their kid to bed. Still had the same well I’m still correct responses to that as well.
How many times does Alvarez and Meltzer have to be called out for incorrect stories by wrestlers themselves before we stop giving them the benefit of the doubt? Look at SRS complete meltdown on Twitter for more examples. That reporter who was caught out using multiple accounts to fight with fans who didn’t agree with him only a few months ago by the way
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Feuding over wrestling t-shirts. So cool.
To be fair he does have a point, AEW is just NxT black and gold these days, look at all the cast offs from WWE, Mox, Punk, the tag champs, FTR, etc, AEW was originally set up as an alternative to WWE, now it is really anything but, with them happy to sign up most people that WWE release.
Of all the examples you could have chosen you picked almost all the no-brainers
Not really, AEW is no longer an alternative to see wrestlers that you wouldn't see in WWE, it is now basically just a WWE cast off promotion, a safe landing spot for those released, that wasn't how it was initially set up, times change, but AEW isn't that alternative anymore.
It doesn't have that same differentiation to it.
someones buying the angleWell yes it does because a lot of the main people in AEW arent tall. Wouldnt get the same push in WWE.
Also very different mentality to training/bringing people through. WWE are signing (tall) athletes and trying to teach them a bit of sports entertainment, while AEW are signing indies guys (and former indies guys who made enough of a name to then go to WWE, and are now available again) who have been able to get over on the indies. In other words AEW is looking to find gems from the indie scene whilst WWE want guys to start over from scratch with, athletes coming out of college that are tall and they can teach them their way from the start.
AEW and blood... Quite a difference to WWE. To the extent that Bryan Danielson left WWE because he wanted to have blood in his matches even though he liked it there.
More new people in each title picture, obviously easier to do that when you've had a show for 3 years but its still true
So plenty of big differences despite obviously having a lot of ex WWE people, some of which chose it over WWE
Is there anywhere you can download last nights ROH show? This was so much easier a few years ago.
EDIT: I think I've found it. There's definitely a gap in the market here somewhere.
EDIT: I think I've found it. There's definitely a gap in the market here somewhere.
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Jonathan Gresham needs to do a Scrappy Doo gimmick.
So aew hired ari daivari and did a video package for him on rampage...
Yep
Yep
I can't speak for everyone, but when people wanted an alternative to WWE, it wasn't because they wanted an alternative to the all great ex-ROH and ex-PWG talent that were underused for years, bar a brief period of HHH heading NXT. People wanted an alternative to Vince McMahon's vision, or lack thereof, for wrestling. Of course much of the talent in the top alternative American companies is ex-WWE. WWE at one stage looked to hire seemingly everyone and monopolise the global independent wrestling scene.
That said, HHH now heading WWE's creative is certainly an intriguing development. His NXT was basically the best period of WWE since Heyman's "Smackdown Six" era.
OG Smackdown Live says hello.
Kind of weird seeing the online fan reaction to a ROH guy losing his cool over booking and management to Sasha Banks etc.
If there is to be a union it has to cover more than WWE
If there is to be a union it has to cover more than WWE
The bigger problem is a lot of theee under-utilised wrestlers are not showcasing why they were under-utilised. They’re in all the exact same spot not proving anybody wrong. I don’t even fully blame the wrestlers, very few of them are even being booked in storylines or angles.
The freshness has gone.
The Vatican has the Sistine Chapel, France has the Eiffel tower and America has
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HHH new head of creative.
This is intriguing to say the least.
This is intriguing to say the least.
Yeah pretty much
Nxt especially before it went two hour live was just great to watch. The lead up to the takeovers and then the takeovers itself was immense
The best of course being being able to be away from fullsail. The presentation was brilliant, with entrances and every match just being something to look forward to.
Probably could have mixed in some younger talent but as a whole, great stuff.
It's been fairly obvious that Vince went because he's been embezzling funds, not because he's a rapist or sex offender, despite some in here insinuating that's what he was.
It'll be interesting to see how the product changes over the next 6 to 12 months. While AEW has done some good it's still can't really hold a candle to WWE and if HHH uses similar long term booking to his NXT period I can see WWE becoming cool again in the eyes of the smark fans.
It'll be interesting to see how the product changes over the next 6 to 12 months. While AEW has done some good it's still can't really hold a candle to WWE and if HHH uses similar long term booking to his NXT period I can see WWE becoming cool again in the eyes of the smark fans.
Penny for Adam Cole’s thoughts when his highest supporter is now the head creative of WWE.