Does two women really count as a division?
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Are you talking about Smackdown, or RAW?
Smackdown actually has a second women's feud, even if it is descending into weird total divas nonsense.
I'm not really sure why they brought Bayley and Nia up from NXT only to keep them out of any meaningful feuds. I'm also not sure why they bothered having Dana follow Charlotte around for ages, only to not be involved in anything of any real interest.
I think both divisions have potential, but they seem to have decided that none of Bayley, Nia or Dana are ready for proper involvement in a title feud on RAW, so are treading water with this weird back and forth between Charlotte and Sasha. Hopefully now they've got the iron(wo)man match out of the way, they'll move on with it and have someone else step up to take on Charlotte.
SD division is much more entertaining and has more depth. Its more engaging.
Whilst the Charlotte/Sasha matches have been good/decent (Think the best one was the one on Raw where Sasha won the title the first time), its all sameness for the sake of saying "The first ever". It just didnt feel as organic as it should have been. Having an Ironman match after a hell in a cell was weird for a feud (but I guess standard WWE stuff).
Whilst the Charlotte/Sasha matches have been good/decent (Think the best one was the one on Raw where Sasha won the title the first time), its all sameness for the sake of saying "The first ever". It just didnt feel as organic as it should have been. Having an Ironman match after a hell in a cell was weird for a feud (but I guess standard WWE stuff).
I'm surprised they didn't just run through every gimmick match to get them on the book, table, ladder, inferno, etc, etc.
"Why are they fencing with flaming kendo sticks while 18 women surround the ring with fire extinguishers?" "Because reasons. Shut up."
The whole HiaC angle was just weirdly dealt with, so anything following that was just going to be more absurd. Okay, first women's HiaC match is groundbreaking stuff, but all the "you've earned it" stuff was utter nonsense. Cell matches are supposed to be terrifying, horrific, career-shortening things, that no one actually wants to ever compete in, but they had Mick Foley, a man who quite literally broke himself in Cell matches, congratulating them on the accomplishment, only to turn around a week later and shout about how horrible it is and how careful they need to be.
The cell match should have ended the feud, particularly as it essentially demonstrated Charlotte going through hell to win the title. Sasha picking it back up on RAW was again, absurd, and then to lose the Ironman match from being 2-1 up, tapping out with 2 seconds left, then again in sudden death, meaning heel Charlotte made an underdog's comeback in the dying moments to beat the champ.
I think the RAW division could be great, and could be far better than SD, because in all honesty, Nat and Nikki bore me, which leaves Alexa, Becky, and Carmella as the remaining active wrestlers. How they're managing to cock up with Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley and Nia active is beyond me, and even Dana's been fairly interesting at times.
Right @Earthquake - it was gimmick matches for the sake of record books.
Dana was great in NXT with Emma I thought. Bringing back Emma but as this model character ... well she looks hot I guess. @Alex99
SD overall has been much better and made much better use since the draft split. The only things I would criticise is:
-Becky/Alexa should have been main event in Glasgow
-IC title match between Miz/Ziggler should have main evented the PPV especially with the world title match opening the show
-Use of Crews (and imo they should just trade Kalisto for Zayn).
Dana was great in NXT with Emma I thought. Bringing back Emma but as this model character ... well she looks hot I guess. @Alex99
SD overall has been much better and made much better use since the draft split. The only things I would criticise is:
-Becky/Alexa should have been main event in Glasgow
-IC title match between Miz/Ziggler should have main evented the PPV especially with the world title match opening the show
-Use of Crews (and imo they should just trade Kalisto for Zayn).
I feel like Emmalina isn't going to be Eva Marie MKII as they're making out at the moment. I hope not anyway.
Now Neville has joined the Cruiserweights, and I think Sin Cara has been involved a bit as well, it makes sense to put Kalisto in the mix, and Zayn on SD would give him room to compete for either the IC or World title, as their roster is more fluid aside from AJ and Ambrose.
I love listening to Kevin Owens chat shit when on screen, but off Mic... Especially during fights.
There was a really funny moment when he was kicking Reigns near the corner and says something like:
"My kicks are really good" then tags in Jericho and says "now you kick him for a bit"
There was a really funny moment when he was kicking Reigns near the corner and says something like:
"My kicks are really good" then tags in Jericho and says "now you kick him for a bit"
Yeah Owens trash talking has always been fantastic especially when its caught by the cameras.
One thing i hate is the new direction to pick out crowd members every five seconds to show them reacting. There are a few funny ones, but its more miss than hit.
One thing i hate is the new direction to pick out crowd members every five seconds to show them reacting. There are a few funny ones, but its more miss than hit.
Now that I've been watching wrestling again for about two months, I have to say, Smackdown is miles ahead of Raw and that's mainly because of the unpredictability. Take Road Block for example, it was fairly predictable, I think someone on here even predicted most of the outcomes. Rollins was always going to beat Jericho, Owens wasn't going to lose his title to Reigns etc. Smackdown had Dolph Ziggler win the number 1 contender fight and then threw in Baron Corbin to the mix. Didn't see that coming at all
Does this make you enjoy Roman more or less?
It makes me like Rusev more than I thought possible!
WWE will take that down, can't be having Reigns losing clean
If he'd won maybe, useless prick, disparaging our football team.
Rusev is absolutely the man
Sami Zayn/Lame is incredible in this one
Merry Christmas you cnuts. Especially @Duffy and @phelans shorts. Have a good one lads. Hon the graps.
Same as, especially to you lads, see you at the graps in 2017. SSS16 '17 boys!
Merry christmas my wrestling brothers.
To more grapventures lads
Here here!
Stephanie was ready for the CM Punk chants. Oh damn.
Stephanie should have just dropped the mic and walked off after that.
What did Steph say? Missed the beginning. Only tuned when Seth was being a dweeb.
After another CM Punk chant "If you could keep that going your chant will last longer than CM Punk did"
Brilliant. Bet that twisted the knife.It killed the chants so quick. They tried it again later but wasnt as strong.
That raw was pretty dire, except for Strowman and JeriKO antics.
Raw looked absolutely awful. Was there even a quick Jericho/KO segment?
I stopped about halfway cos of the sameness and staleness. Will probably try catch up soon with ffwd usage.
TBH though, im actually looking forward to SD Live however. Will watch that fully live.
TBH though, im actually looking forward to SD Live however. Will watch that fully live.
Saw raw... Pretty bad episode but some things I don't get:
Who is this Neville bloke? Seems quite good. Loved his turnbuckle move.
Why does TJ Perkins keep losing? I love his fight style and he has an excellent entrance but can't seem to buy a win.
Who is Austin Aries? He was on commentary and they seemed to imply hes a wrestler?
Also, was Corey Graves a wrestler?
Finally, what's the point in Roman Reigns wasting the US title? Wouldn't it be better off with Zayn, Rusev, Jericho etc?
Who is this Neville bloke? Seems quite good. Loved his turnbuckle move.
Why does TJ Perkins keep losing? I love his fight style and he has an excellent entrance but can't seem to buy a win.
Who is Austin Aries? He was on commentary and they seemed to imply hes a wrestler?
Also, was Corey Graves a wrestler?
Finally, what's the point in Roman Reigns wasting the US title? Wouldn't it be better off with Zayn, Rusev, Jericho etc?
There was a pretty hilarious segment with them and Strowman.
"Seth even said you should do crossfit"
Loved the response to the Punk chants from Stephanie as well
Anybody else up? Anybody watching SD?
Wtf has happend to Rhyno?
What do you mean?
I like how pretty much everything on SD has meaning and purpose.
Just wish they would have a 2 man commentary team of Mauro and JBL.
Dude doesnt look like he ages either.
Just wish they would have a 2 man commentary team of Mauro and JBL.
Hmmm. He seems about the same, same thickness.
Dude doesnt look like he ages either.
He's put on weight and essentially become a cube.