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He was my first choice after we sacked Jose, i think he could do well here.
They arent getting out of the group now. RB and Utd are set up to run at that defence in games they have to win.He is on the brink too.
But that PSG team yesterday you just need to look at the midfield and realise they not going to create anything especially without the front two.
Why do you think so? I don't really rate himHe was my first choice after we sacked Jose, i think he could do well here.
I like the way we setup his team at BVB and they were really exciting to watch, hes good tactically and flexible and doesnt rely on just one formation.Why do you think so? I don't really rate him
Which was mostly due to the fact that we had 1 game per round. I very much doubt they'd have made it to the final if we had the normal 2 legged games.PSG going into europa is a big possibility now which would be a disaster considering the step forward they made last season. Pretty likely now unless they win at Old Trafford (think Leipzig will beat Man. United last game).
Who's PSG looking at as potential replacement. I've long thought Poch would be good choice at this point in career but looks like Man. United will get in there first. Guess Allegri will be option.
Has he won more than Blanc did?No one will top his achievements at PSG. It will take a monumental effort to reach UCL final again, let alone win it.
This would be PSG's 5th coach in 8 years, dodgy record.
Blanc has one more French league trophy, but Tuchel has 2 in 2 years.Has he won more than Blanc did?
Does he even choose the signings at PSG?Tuchel is regarded as a top tier coach in Germany, Pep wanted him to be his successor after he left us. Tactically I don't think there are many better than him. Nevertheless, I'm actually impressed that he is still working in Paris though since he's rather infamous for being quite a difficult character to handle. I'm also not sure if his players are still 100% behind his approach. His PSG team is rather inconsistent, some of his signings have been absolutely horrible. I see him as someone who could instill quite a solid philosophy in a club and be rather successful for a year or two and eventually falls out with the board and fired, but still leave a formidable and well-coached squad behind.
He'd be the "safer" choice among Nagelsmann, Rose, Hasenhüttl for having already worked at a big club, but is a far cry from a "tactical dinosaur". Not one that usually stays for 5 years or more at a club though, but who else is these days.
Yeah. Midfield three of Marquinhos, Herrera and Gueye starting yesterday. That’s just shocking from them.PSG have Neymar+Mbappe but the rest would be midtable in PL. Verratti's always injured and didn't improve for years, Di Maria's in decline, their fullbacks are terrible. Genuinely wonder how they rebuild their squad if can't spend much.
At Dortmund he caused a lot of disruption, because he was unhappy the club signed young players like Dembele and Guerreiro, instead of his favourites Schürrle, Toprak and Bellarabi. I think tactically he's a very good coach and you can deal with his difficult character if you don't expect him to stay more than two or three years, but given United's unclear recruitment strategy I'd be worried about that aspect.Does he even choose the signings at PSG?
Hang about, so we're asking for a manager that has won trophies... but only certain trophies that we like?How come the Caf tends to not want Pochettino but seem more positive about Tuchel? Tuchel has done much less, including one outright poor job at Dortmund (you can’t count PSG league wins, surely?).
To be fair winning the french league with PSG shouldn't really count in any manager's favor. I'm pretty sure Moyes, Giggs, Bruce etc would win that league with the previous PSG squads. I would say getting top 4 in the prem is a better achievement than winning the French league personally.Hang about, so we're asking for a manager that has won trophies... but only certain trophies that we like?
Hang about, so we're asking for a manager that has won trophies... but only certain trophies that we like?
Well yeah he has 4, 3 of them in 3 years at PSG as well as 4 cups. He won 2 trebles there as well.Blanc has one more French league trophy, but Tuchel has 2 in 2 years.
The big difference is Blanc never went further than a Champions League QF, whilst Tuchel has last season's breakthrough to build upon.
Neither Allegri nor Pochettino have won the UCL, so I doubt they would add any value.
Outright poor is pretty harsh. The core of his team was gutted for his second season. He lost Mats Hummels, İlkay Gündoğan, and Mkhitaryan and did win the DFB Pokal. I wouldn’t take him purely because he had a terrible relationship with the board and I don’t see it going much better here.How come the Caf tends to not want Pochettino but seem more positive about Tuchel? Tuchel has done much less, including one outright poor job at Dortmund (you can’t count PSG league wins, surely?).
He did a good job at Dortmund. He was fired because of his behaviour, not because of results.How come the Caf tends to not want Pochettino but seem more positive about Tuchel? Tuchel has done much less, including one outright poor job at Dortmund (you can’t count PSG league wins, surely?).
To be fair winning the french league with PSG shouldn't really count in any manager's favor.
Yeah but we're discounting managers like Poch for not winning anything, but now also discounting managers like Tuchel who have won something but just not what the Caf wants... meanwhile the likes of Nagelsmann and Rose are the dreams of some!!Paul Jewell would win the French league with PSG to be fair
Because in order to follow FFP PSG have sold a lot of players over the years and they don't actually spend that much on individual players outside of Neymar, Mbappé and Di Maria.How have PSG spent so much money and their squad looks so bang average? Outside of Neymar, Mbappe, Di Maria and Veratti the rest of their squad looks like a midtable PL squad stacked with a bunch of journeymen.
Marquinhos is a fantastic defender. Would getHow have PSG spent so much money and their squad looks so bang average? Outside of Neymar, Mbappe, Di Maria and Veratti the rest of their squad looks like a midtable PL squad stacked with a bunch of journeymen.
Looking at their squad it certainly seems that way, even if it felt contrary to that before.Because in order to follow FFP PSG have sold a lot of players over the years and they don't actually spend that much on individual players outside of Neymar, Mbappé and Di Maria.
Yes you are definitely correct. You certainly can't choose unique criteria for judging each manager individually. We should be weighing their potential based on different areas and what they have won. E.g style of football, potential for improvement, youth development and of course trophies won. Taking poch as an example. Now, i'd argue that Poch getting a team to the CL final and having spurs finish in the top 4 could perhaps be said to be a better achievement than winning the French league with PSG or German league with Bayern, for example. But then we have to look at his credentials for developing youth. I'd say from reports from spurs fans that he didn't do this at spurs at all, and in fact got rid of some of their more promising youth players. I'm not sure how accurate this is however. So we have to weigh how important these aspects of management style are, against say a history of winning trophies (e.g Allegri). I'd say we tried this approach with Jose, where we hired a manager who was a serial winner but whom we knew was in direct opposition to United's philosophy of pragmatic, attacking football and the development of youth.Yeah but we're discounting managers like Poch for not winning anything, but now also discounting managers like Tuchel who have won something but just not what the Caf wants... meanwhile the likes of Nagelsmann and Rose are the dreams of some!!