Only 4 initially.Refs never book keepers until very last minute. 6 minutes was added on anyway.
Really, thought it was five minutes and Dean added the extra minute because the penalty took a minute to take.Only 4 initially.
A minute? More like 2-3.Really, thought it was five minutes and Dean added the extra minute because the penalty took a minute to take.
When you look at it, we made two subs, you made two subs second half (and McTominay sprinted off when he was subbed so that didn't take 30 seconds) and one goal so two and a half minutes and then extra two and a half minutes for time Targett and Maguire were down.
No ref in any league adds on 10 minutes on its own for a team timewasting.
I’d forgotten that… probably because the time wasting was SO bad.Australian ref just booked Darlow today. It's about time someone was booked for it.
Time wasting and kicking the ball away just don't seem to be punishable offences anymore.
It does when you’ve paid £60-£70 for a ticket. I don’t pay to watch a keeper mess about with a goal kick. If nothing else they should clamp down on this from the fans perspectiveDoesn't matter what the opposition do with the ball, it matters what we do with it
Yeah I am sure before covid they used to play with more than 1 ball , today they were constantly trying to get the ball backI’d forgotten that… probably because the time wasting was SO bad.
Few occasions that happened. One when we had a Fk (not sure it was) and a Villa player ran and got the ball and kicked it 50 yards back to his goalie before a United player had to get it back and kick it back to our half for the FK. Knew exactly what they were doing
Yeah same and it was crazy that Dean let it go on . More than the time in itself it’s their idea of trying to make sure that United can’t sustain anything by constantly breaking momentumThe tactic certainly can help frustrate the fans and the other teams players. I was at the game today and it riled everyone up in a bad way.
I feel ti warrants a yellow card, the time wasting was happening all game and in previous matches.
No issue when De Gea is taking 30-40 seconds on goal kicks when you're 1 up on Liverpool or Chelsea in a key game?It does when you’ve paid £60-£70 for a ticket. I don’t pay to watch a keeper mess about with a goal kick. If nothing else they should clamp down on this from the fans perspective
That emoji doesn’t make your post amusing at all for anyone . Congrats to villa foe winning the game but their behaviour all game was absolutely pathetic & small timeNo issue when De Gea is taking 30-40 seconds on goal kicks when you're 1 up on Liverpool or Chelsea in a key game?
I get the issues in general terms as plenty of time is wasted in football but this thread only seems to crop up whenever Man. United get it and I'm fairly sure you were time wasting towards end of Wolves game as an example.
Mind you looking at Ole's post match comments and he's probably someone who genuinely believes Manchester United have never had a player who's time wasted in his life.
We just did what we had to do. Most away teams do it and yes you will be doing it at Anfield or Man. City whenever you play them away if you're winning 1-0 with ten minutes left and are under plenty of pressure.That emoji doesn’t make your post amusing at all for anyone . Congrats to villa foe winning the game but their behaviour all game was absolutely pathetic & small time
No issue when De Gea is taking 30-40 seconds on goal kicks when you're 1 up on Liverpool or Chelsea in a key game?
I get the issues in general terms as plenty of time is wasted in football but this thread only seems to crop up whenever Man. United get it and I'm fairly sure you were time wasting towards end of Wolves game as an example.
Mind you looking at Ole's post match comments and he's probably someone who genuinely believes Manchester United have never had a player who's time wasted in his life.
Edit: As a collective I just think most refs shrug their shoulders and just decide to add on 5-6 minutes at the end as a compromise so whichever team is seemingly penalised still gets plenty of time to score. Not ideal but that's the way football ultimately works.
They were time wasting at 0-0 after 15 mins. It does happen every single week which is exactly why it needs sorting out as it’s dull.You know who complaints about time wasting? Only the fan that is losing the game. Villa didn't do anything out of the ordinary in terms of wasting time today, this is just extremely sour grapes. I totally agree about time wasting especially in the Euros/World Cup and European comps, some minnow from Slovenia or Albania faking injuries for six of their players at the same time, but this was not anywhere near close. Normal game where a top team is struggling against a mid-table team, happens every single week. Best is to score more goals and avoid the situation entirely, but United scored none over 96 minutes.
What United should do performance wise is irrelevant to this thread . There’s about 50 threads about that right now . I watch so much football and it’s a pet peeve of mine how much time is wasted every game . The fact what Villa did today is not even considered to be anything out of normal is pretty bad for the sport . Go back and watch the first goal kick that they got in like the 3rd minute and you can see Martinez messing around with the ball for 20+ seconds and he must have done that at least 25 times today . This is not even to mention the throw ins and free kicks etcYou know who complaints about time wasting? Only the fan that is losing the game. Villa didn't do anything out of the ordinary in terms of wasting time today, this is just extremely sour grapes. I totally agree about time wasting especially in the Euros/World Cup and European comps, some minnow from Slovenia or Albania faking injuries for six of their players at the same time, but this was not anywhere near close. Normal game where a top team is struggling against a mid-table team, happens every single week. Best is to score more goals and avoid the situation entirely, but United scored none over 96 minutes.
It’s annoying cause we were crap, so the poor performance means we can never complain about the decisions because “we should have beaten them anyway”at VAR not disallowing that goal. What bollocks for a third game running.
Sounds a bit agenda driven.You know who complaints about time wasting? Only the fan that is losing the game. Villa didn't do anything out of the ordinary in terms of wasting time today, this is just extremely sour grapes. I totally agree about time wasting especially in the Euros/World Cup and European comps, some minnow from Slovenia or Albania faking injuries for six of their players at the same time, but this was not anywhere near close. Normal game where a top team is struggling against a mid-table team, happens every single week. Best is to score more goals and avoid the situation entirely, but United scored none over 96 minutes.
Or a City penalty where the ref has a clear view but VAR forgets their boss saying “it’s only clear and obvious. We won’t re-referee matches”?Villa could also have had a penalty, but it's clear VAR has gone back to when they essentially just agree with the referee unless it's a handball given away by United
Daft speculation after losing a game, of course without any data to back it up. Villa had 13 goal kicks today, but he did it at least 25 times right!? Facts and irrationality seldom go hand in hand, you sure as hell wouldn’t comment in this thread if United comfortably won the game 2-0 in the last 15 minutes as they often do.What United should do performance wise is irrelevant to this thread . There’s about 50 threads about that right now . I watch so much football and it’s a pet peeve of mine how much time is wasted every game . The fact what Villa did today is not even considered to be anything out of normal is pretty bad for the sport . Go back and watch the first goal kick that they got in like the 3rd minute and you can see Martinez messing around with the ball for 20+ seconds and he must have done that at least 25 times today . This is not even to mention the throw ins and free kicks etc
Can you please point to where I said that United lost because of that . If it was completely irrelevant and didn’t affect games then teams wouldn’t actually be doing it . 14 must be the number of goal kicks but there were other fouls in and around the box which Martinez took kicks for . Spare me the crap about football & hockey ., anyone who watched the game could see what he was trying to do . Having been to OT today I can tell you that a lot of the times cameras move around so you don’t see everything on tv but he constantly messed around with the ball for 10+ secondsDaft speculation after losing a game, of course without any data to back it up. Villa had 13 goal kicks today, but he did it at least 25 times right!? Facts and irrationality seldom go hand in hand, you sure as hell wouldn’t comment in this thread if United comfortably won the game 2-0 in the last 15 minutes as they often do.
Newsflash, a goalkeeper is not expected to start play as quickly as humanly possible - football is not hockey. Players rest between attempts as they play for 90 minutes without subbing. Some sequences are quick, some are slow, the lesser team obviously will in theory spend a bit more time to kill momentum away from home. The best team still has 90 minutes to score goals, let’s not pretend the alleged time wasting was the reason whatsoever for United losing today.
I am not blaming anything, just stating that it ruins the experience for me.Astro turf…
Referees…
Time wasting…
Think we need to start blaming what should be blamed.