MyOnlySolskjaer
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Solid performance, hopefully more of this.
I don't think we have enough depth in the position to do that. If Valencia were to get injured we really have no proper alternatives. Darmian could switch flanks and TFM would be next choice. He's ahead of Tuanzebe in Jose's mind I think even though Axel has performed far better at 1st team levelI hope he goes out on loan to a PL or championship team and gets regular football as a RB. I think he could do well in that role but needs regular playing time to build up that consistency.
We shouldn't be hampering a players development to sit in the stands and be third choice RB. Young can also player there and if we're really at a push Bailly, Lindelof, Jones and Smalling have all played at RB before. If he spends another season like the last one then TFM may as well force a move.I don't think we have enough depth in the position to do that. If Valencia were to get injured we really have no proper alternatives. Darmian could switch flanks and TFM would be next choice. He's ahead of Tuanzebe in Jose's mind I think even though Axel has performed far better at 1st team level
Young is injured and we don't know when he's due back. We won't be wanting our cbs to be playing at rb. TFM forcing a move is being very overdramatic. He's still only 19 and he's no Paul Pogba. He's not just going to move to another big club and suddenly get game time. He'd just go to an average team, possibly back to the Eridivisie which won't help him much. He'd likely be 2nd choice rb anyway because Jose will probably want to keep Darmian at lb. Frankly if he wants to get more game time in the position he should be playing better anyway. If I was Jose, based on what I'd seen of him when he was given the chance, I wouldn't be risking him except in small games either. He'll get game time in the EFL Cup and if we qualify early he might play a few of the last games in CL group stage. If he performs in those he might be rotated more. With the fixture pileup in December he might get chances too.We shouldn't be hampering a players development to sit in the stands and be third choice RB. Young can also player there and if we're really at a push Bailly, Lindelof, Jones and Smalling have all played at RB before. If he spends another season like the last one then TFM may as well force a move.
How much improvement do you expect to see after just a few opportunities?I remember thinking he would be our David Alaba. Could play multiple positions and was very tenacious, but it seems that since his call up to the first team there hasn't been any significant improvement. He's always going at 100 mph, which I think is the reason he's not played in midfield.
I'm not expecting him to be as calm as say Carrick out there, but he's been part of the first team for over a year and yet his performances remain the same as day 1.How much improvement do you expect to see after just a few opportunities?
Sometimes you have to think about the long term. At a club like Manchester United we can't afford for rookies to learn on the job. Tim is very raw, he needs regular games. He can't be a backup waiting for Valencia to be suspended. He'd be done a disservice.I don't think we have enough depth in the position to do that. If Valencia were to get injured we really have no proper alternatives. Darmian could switch flanks and TFM would be next choice. He's ahead of Tuanzebe in Jose's mind I think even though Axel has performed far better at 1st team level
Agree. Not sure about the move but we're dropping an axe on our own foot by holding up his development. He's clearly cruising in the reserves and under 23s.We shouldn't be hampering a players development to sit in the stands and be third choice RB. Young can also player there and if we're really at a push Bailly, Lindelof, Jones and Smalling have all played at RB before. If he spends another season like the last one then TFM may as well force a move.
Needs the regular game time to fix all that.I remember thinking he would be our David Alaba. Could play multiple positions and was very tenacious, but it seems that since his call up to the first team there hasn't been any significant improvement. He's always going at 100 mph, which I think is the reason he's not played in midfield.
But that years almost irrelevant if he hardly ever plays.I'm not expecting him to be as calm as say Carrick out there, but he's been part of the first team for over a year and yet his performances remain the same as day 1.
Thing is he doesn't even do that because Mourinho doesn't let him play for the u23s. The lad literally plays no football. People then wonder why he is out of position and off the pace when he finally does get a game and its quite obvious because he hasn't played a game at any level in months. No shit he is going to be lacking match sharpness. Playing 300 minutes of football in a whole season at all levels is simply a waste of time. Another season like that and there is no way he should be staying here. He's no Paul Pogba, what a shit excuse. He doesn't need to be Pogba to have some ambition of developing as a player which he will never do with 300 minutes of football. Its a complete waste of time, simple as that. He isn't going anywhere with that shit.Agree. Not sure about the move but we're dropping an axe on our own foot by holding up his development. He's clearly cruising in the reserves and under 23s.
Actually getting to play football would serve no purpose? And the squad is really going to be weakened losing him for those 300 minutes of game time.Fosu Mensah is an accomplished player. It would weaken the squad if we send him for a loan. It would serve no purpose, besides.
Valencia won't play every game, we have CL too. He attacks along the right flank, and that's something we need. He's a smart player. He gets forward to provide assists. He moves swiftly to snuff out danger on the last line as well. He's very strong, and I think too many people are quick to right him off because of his age. You just need to watch what he does and forget that he's 19 for a moment. His positioning is often quite excellent and that's what he mostly gets criticized for. I wouldn't have picked him to be good RB, but he's adapted well to the role, just like Valencia did before him. I think he will get more than 300 minutes this season. That's better than risking injury playing for some second rate team which will achieve nothing.Actually getting to play football would serve no purpose? And the squad is really going to be weakened losing him for those 300 minutes of game time.
Actually getting to play football would serve no purpose? And the squad is really going to be weakened losing him for those 300 minutes of game time.
I think you are assuming based on he will get lots of playing time on loan.Actually getting to play football would serve no purpose? And the squad is really going to be weakened losing him for those 300 minutes of game time.
Young players also improve because they mature (get older) and through training. They don't need first team appearances necessarily, although of course they do help. Otherwise no young player would develop and coaches are useless.But that years almost irrelevant if he hardly ever plays.
I just think it's massively harsh to judge a player's development when he's rarely on the pitch.
Yeah there's truth in that but however that maturity is gained he has to be on the pitch to show it.Young players also improve because they mature (get older) and through training. They don't need first team appearances necessarily, although of course they do help. Otherwise no young player would develop and coaches are useless.
Anyhow, in TFM's case he seems to be a step down from what is required for a reliable squad option at United atm. It might be best for him to go on loan and come back to stake a claim next year when Carrick and Fellaini are likely to be leaving and space will be opening up.
RoShaun Wiliams said thatof the trio Rasford, Williams and Mensah, Mensah was the fastest. With Williams boasting a 10,99 on the 100m at 15 year old, you may not be far off in your assumption. He positions himself well also, and he is very strong.Maybe I'm exaggerating but he really looks like the quickest player I've ever seen in a United shirt. I'm sure he easily did Bale for pace near the beginning of the game.
That alone isn't enough obviously but the guy can really tackle as well. He relishes it.
Put these things together and you've got real potential.