I'm kidding of course. You'll smash Sheffield United and we'll lose to Man City and it'll be down to 2 points.If only it were that easy. I genuinely feel it will be a lot tighter than you think.
I'm kidding of course. You'll smash Sheffield United and we'll lose to Man City and it'll be down to 2 points.If only it were that easy. I genuinely feel it will be a lot tighter than you think.
Yeah in fairness I think i've looked at their fixtures too quickly, and went off the rating fantasy football gives them! All 2 and 3 for difficulty (and i had the 4 v Chelsea off the page)Banking on their small squad and lack of depth in the bench together with the thick and fast run of games, can hope they dropped points also against relegation fighting Villa, Bournemouth and drop points against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal and Crystal Palace, draws and/or losses.
It’s always like this. People love a meltdown. Very premature, though.I don’t understand why people are declaring it’s over with 8 games to go, that’s bizarre.
A United win at home to a team that have just lost 3-0 and looked tired, plus a Chelsea loss to one of the best teams in Europe, means there are 2 points in it with 7 games to go! It can go either way.
Am I missing something?
It was the pathetic falling apart over about 2mins that was the annoying thing.I expected a Chelsea win but i'm still a bit angry......i really watched the minutes 1-59 and 64-90 but during both Chelsea goals i was in the kitchen
Nah. Chelsea fixtures:We basically need to win 8 on the trot. No room for error. I can't see it happening.
Yeah that's not any sort of distraction Come on.Full focus on the league and not having it in the back of their minds that success in a European competition later might make up for failure to finish 4th in the league.
Home or away seems irrelevant in a post-covid world.Nah. Chelsea fixtures:
3 home games, against Watford (16th), Norwich (20th) and Wolves (6th).
- City (A)
- Leicester (A) FA CUP
- West Ham (A)
- Watford (H)
- Palace (A)
- Sheffield (A)
- Norwich (H)
- Liverpool (A)
- Wolves (H)
5 away games, against City (2nd), West Ham (17th), Palace (9th), Sheffield (7th), Liverpool (1st).
That's a hard fecking run. Keep in mind West Ham away is also a rivalry for them, but the 3rd easiest game for them. Palace away is a tough fixture as well, one that's common for both of us.
United on the other hand:
4 home games, against Sheffield (7th), Bournemouth (18th), Southampton (14th), West Ham (17th).
- Sheffield (H)
- Norwich (A) FA CUP
- Brighton (A)
- Bournemouth (H)
- Villa (A)
- Southampton (H)
- Palace (A)
- West ham (H)
- Leicester (A)
4 away games, against Brighton (15th), Villa (19th), Palace (9th) and Leicester (3rd).
Leicester away is tough, though on the last day of the season who knows what the situation is like (matches them against Wolves on the last day basically). Palace away is also tough, our 2nd hardest left, but again, common with the same fixture for them.
We couldn't ask for an easier fixture list, the easiest remaining in the league, while theirs is very difficult and on the other side of the spectrum.
Maybe so, I also fecked up anyway. You play City at home, not away. But goes both ways. General point was that I'd much rather avoid City and Liverpool altogether as both clubs are on a different level to the rest, with Leicester and Wolves I kinda put on the same level. Biggest game I'd say is an impact home or away is Palace away, which is equal for both of us, and a game I always hate (despite United having a good record there). Always seems like an upset ready to happen, while I feel like they roll over when we play them at home. West Ham away vs home as well I feel like is a decently big difference, with the rest not really mattering much home or away.Home or away seems irrelevant in a post-covid world.
With good reason. We've only finished inside the top 4 twice in the last 7 years.It’s always like this. People love a meltdown. Very premature, though.
You need to park easier/easiest talk especially for a group of players that lost to Palace (H) West Ham (A) Newcastle (A) Bournemouth (A) Watford (A) Burnley (H) plus the many silly draws this season.We couldn't ask for an easier fixture list, the easiest remaining in the league, while theirs is very difficult and on the other side of the spectrum.
A points record will likely still be on offer for them. That's reason enough.What will Liverpool have to play for by then? Chelsea are now 5 points ahead with 8 games to play which is a very decent position to be in and they won't have the distractions of European football unlike United and Wolves. The so called more favourable games are normally the ones United will drop further points in
Nobody has european football before August. So it's really not an argument here.What will Liverpool have to play for by then? Chelsea are now 5 points ahead with 8 games to play which is a very decent position to be in and they won't have the distractions of European football unlike United and Wolves. The so called more favourable games are normally the ones United will drop further points in
Beat Chelsea three times comfortably, we can't be that badNormally if teams finish above my own I’ll give due credit. I think this time based on the 2/3rds played, it would be an absolute travesty if you guys finished above us.
I get we have been inconsistent at times and that’s a mixed of limited forwards and a lack of game management and know how. You guys on the other hand, have been quite dreadful at times and it really felt like a chore to watch. I feel like it’s more down to lack of tactics and employing someone utterly clueless and with a proven track record of failure.
So if that happened, it would be on Chelsea, not an outstanding comeback story. That thought is truly sickening
A group of players, just that group happened to not have Bruno and a fit Pogba as part of it. Or some of them not having Martial or Rashford in addition to Bruno/Pogba. You swap Bruno and Pogba with Lingard and Pereira, and yeah, we're going to drop a lot of points, as those are garbage players in key positions. Straightforward.You need to park easier/easiest talk especially for a group of players that lost to Palace (H) West Ham (A) Newcastle (A) Bournemouth (A) Watford (A) Burnley (H) plus the many silly draws this season.
I might add regardless of the opposition
this United team more often than not need to score first in games to win them. So starting Wednesday hopefully Man United score first v Sheffield United.
Thanks. I think it will be upheld for next year. But yeah, cant plan for that.City's* UEFA ban currently is for next season and the season after. Their appeal will be decided in early/mid July, where we'll find out if 5th makes CL next year or not.
Good analysis. You're right about the fixture lists.We couldn't ask for an easier fixture list, the easiest remaining in the league, while theirs is very difficult and on the other side of the spectrum.
Nah. Chelsea fixtures:
4 home games, against City (2nd), Watford (16th), Norwich (20th) and Wolves (6th).
- City (H)
- Leicester (A) FA CUP
- West Ham (A)
- Watford (H)
- Palace (A)
- Sheffield (A)
- Norwich (H)
- Liverpool (A)
- Wolves (H)
4 away games, against West Ham (17th), Palace (9th), Sheffield (7th), Liverpool (1st).
That's a hard fecking run. Keep in mind West Ham away is also a rivalry for them, but the 3rd easiest game for them. Palace away is a tough fixture as well, one that's common for both of us.
United on the other hand:
4 home games, against Sheffield (7th), Bournemouth (18th), Southampton (14th), West Ham (17th).
- Sheffield (H)
- Norwich (A) FA CUP
- Brighton (A)
- Bournemouth (H)
- Villa (A)
- Southampton (H)
- Palace (A)
- West ham (H)
- Leicester (A)
4 away games, against Brighton (15th), Villa (19th), Palace (9th) and Leicester (3rd).
Leicester away is tough, though on the last day of the season who knows what the situation is like (matches them against Wolves on the last day basically). Palace away is also tough, our 2nd hardest left, but again, common with the same fixture for them.
The most sense I've seen anybody talk in this thread. It'd be a 10/10 post if you had used Asian betting odds instead of 538. Although to be fair they are almost identical in this case.It’s funny how people are assuming a United win and Chelsea defeat midweek is the odds on scenario. Fivethirtyeight have the results at 72% and 48% likely respectively, which is 34.6% for both to happen.
Essentially only a third of the time do United head into the FA Cup weekend with a gap of two points with seven games to play. And that’s the best case scenario. A five point lead now is massive.
Questionable maths... Entirely the wrong way to use stats. But I guess if you want to go with that logic...It’s funny how people are assuming a United win and Chelsea defeat midweek is the odds on scenario. Fivethirtyeight have the results at 72% and 48% likely respectively, which is 34.6% for both to happen.
Essentially only a third of the time do United head into the FA Cup weekend with a gap of two points with seven games to play. And that’s the best case scenario. A five point lead now is massive.
Conveniently you have omitted the absence of our best players for half of the season as a reason for our struggles.Normally if teams finish above my own I’ll give due credit. I think this time based on the 2/3rds played, it would be an absolute travesty if you guys finished above us.
I get we have been inconsistent at times and that’s a mixed of limited forwards and a lack of game management and know how. You guys on the other hand, have been quite dreadful at times and it really felt like a chore to watch. I feel like it’s more down to lack of tactics and employing someone utterly clueless and with a proven track record of failure.
So if that happened, it would be on Chelsea, not an outstanding comeback story. That thought is truly sickening
Not sure yet, City are appealing the ban so we'll have to wait and see. Best just to not think about it and aim for 4th.Does 5th place still get CL?
Yeah would be an absolute schoolboy error if any of us, Wolves, Chelsea, Sheff Utd or Spurs start thinking that wayNot sure yet, City are appealing the ban so we'll have to wait and see. Best just to not think about it and aim for 4th.
FFP was created mainly for clubs like Marseille, Trabzonspor, Dinamo Zagreb or Flora Tallinn so the rich clubs can get richer and to keep the power.If City win their appeal and don't get a ban then UEFA may as well scrap FFP and never bother going after anyone again. It will make them look completely toothless and humiliate them.
It would also mean that the likes of the Glazers would be forced to invest into their teams, least they fall further behind the likes of City & PSG (and lose their best players to either club). Hence why I hope City win their appeal (1).If City win their appeal and don't get a ban then UEFA may as well scrap FFP and never bother going after anyone again. It will make them look completely toothless and humiliate them.
Let's be real, I doubt FFP would have emerged had Abramovich not bought Chelsea, Abu Dhabi not bought Man City & Qatar not bought PSG. Especially when the current setup of both (European) Domestic Football & Continential Football is working very well for the Established Clubs (Maybe not AC Milan & Inter Milan to be fair).FFP was created mainly for clubs like Marseille, Trabzonspor, Dinamo Zagreb or Flora Tallinn so the rich clubs can get richer and to keep the power.
Do you think players think that way in terms of looking up and/or down? Or just a case of looking to get a result from each game and seeing where that gets them.I'm not even looking at United. I don't mean that in an arrogant way. I just think Chelsea would be better suited focusing on catching Leicester, who are only 3 points ahead now rather than focusing on staying ahead of United.
After the next set of fixtures we could quite easily be within two points of you again. Can't see you getting anything off City and we may put a poor Shefield United to bed.I'm not even looking at United. I don't mean that in an arrogant way. I just think Chelsea would be better suited focusing on catching Leicester, who are only 3 points ahead now rather than focusing on staying ahead of United.
Players are human so they're likely also looking at the league table calculating points based on hypothetical wins and losses, the same way the fans do.Do you think players think that way in terms of looking up and/or down? Or just a case of looking to get a result from each game and seeing where that gets them.
Yeah, I mean I think it's inevitable that United close the gap to us in some way. I've already said I think Chelsea and United will squeeze into the top 4 in the end.After the next set of fixtures we could quite easily be within two points of you again. Can't see you getting anything off City and we may put a poor Shefield United to bed.