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Torres Have Been Given One More Week To Decide His Club
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Javier Aguirre has revealed Fernando Torres may not be an Atletico Madrid player next season.
Just a day after being reassured the Spain international is not for sale, Atletico coach Aguirre is now contemplating the striker's exit.
The Mexican had been hoping to count on Torres for next term, but after speaking to the player, a transfer may be in the pipeline.
Manchester United have been heavily linked with a big-money bid, while Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspur have been credited with an interest in the past.
Atletico insist Torres will not leave the club for less than his £41.4 million buy-out clause, but Aguirre now fears the 22-year-old does not want to return to the Vicente Calderon.
Aguirre admits the club's talisman has not confirmed he will be playing for Atletico next season, although the coach hopes Torres will stay.
"I've spoken to Fernando and he hasn't been able to guarantee his presence in the team in the forthcoming season," Aguirre told Marca.
"The market is still open and a lot of things can happen, but it is clear that every day that passes is one day less for something to occur.
"What I want to make clear, though, is that Fernando has a great commitment to the club."
Torres' agent Antonio Sanz has moved to soothe Aguirre's concerns by insisting his client wants to stay in the Spanish capital and has not received any offers to leave.
"On July 21, Torres will join Atletico Madrid for pre-season training," said Sanz.
"Torres has two years left on his contract with Atletico and then we will see what happens.
"Neither us, nor the club, has received an offer from Manchester United, or any other clubs for that matter.
"After the World Cup, there has been interest from Italian clubs, but not from English clubs, and there hasn't been anything concrete.
"The player's intention is to remain at the club."
from skysports
Just a day after being reassured the Spain international is not for sale, Atletico coach Aguirre is now contemplating the striker's exit.
The Mexican had been hoping to count on Torres for next term, but after speaking to the player, a transfer may be in the pipeline.
Manchester United have been heavily linked with a big-money bid, while Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspur have been credited with an interest in the past.
Atletico insist Torres will not leave the club for less than his £41.4 million buy-out clause, but Aguirre now fears the 22-year-old does not want to return to the Vicente Calderon.
Aguirre admits the club's talisman has not confirmed he will be playing for Atletico next season, although the coach hopes Torres will stay.
"I've spoken to Fernando and he hasn't been able to guarantee his presence in the team in the forthcoming season," Aguirre told Marca.
"The market is still open and a lot of things can happen, but it is clear that every day that passes is one day less for something to occur.
"What I want to make clear, though, is that Fernando has a great commitment to the club."
Torres' agent Antonio Sanz has moved to soothe Aguirre's concerns by insisting his client wants to stay in the Spanish capital and has not received any offers to leave.
"On July 21, Torres will join Atletico Madrid for pre-season training," said Sanz.
"Torres has two years left on his contract with Atletico and then we will see what happens.
"Neither us, nor the club, has received an offer from Manchester United, or any other clubs for that matter.
"After the World Cup, there has been interest from Italian clubs, but not from English clubs, and there hasn't been anything concrete.
"The player's intention is to remain at the club."
from skysports
Red17 said:
Also don't forget Saha only scored 4 goals in that run of 11 (2 of which came in one game!) starts he got, that is by no means so spectacular. I for one to this day do not understand why he got hyped up so much, he really was not that impressive in by no means could his best form ever match Ruud's best form.
Javier also said that a deal was done .He knows just as much as the the british tabloids.
WesBrownIsaGod said:
Wat the fuks wrong with you twat thats what i was pointing out!!!!!
Red17 said:
my bad
Stretch said:
For comparison on the same basis - for Saha, to put any of your doubts to rest:
Up till the Liverpool FA Cup game: 127 minutes per goal (Ruud 138 mins/goal)
Subsequently: 155 minutes per goal (Ruud 218 mins/goal).
Red17 said:
Did you even read what I wrote? I pointed out that Saha was in top form during his run in the team yet his top form will never compare to what Ruud is like at top form, we just need to look at the first half of the season and then compare Ruud at top form to Saha in top form, there is NO comparison, end off.
PS: I do acknowledge Ruud had poor form going into the second half of the season, that's granted but it happens to everyone.
what age? yeah
Torres casts doubt over Atletico future
MADRID, July 17 (Reuters) - The future of Spain striker Fernando Torres at Atletico Madrid remains uncertain, the club's coach Javier Aguirre said.
'I've spoken to Fernando and he hasn't been able to guarantee his presence in the team in the forthcoming season,' Aguirre was quoted as saying in sports daily Marca on Monday.
'The market is still open and a lot of things can happen, but it is clear that every day that passes is one day less for something to occur. What I want to make clear, though, is that Fernando has a great commitment to the club.'
Spanish and English media have reported that Manchester United are prepared to make a bid for the 22-year-old international who was one of Spain's most impressive performers at the World Cup.
The former youth team player has become the talisman at Atletico ever since making his debut as a 17-year-old when the club was in the second division.
He has been the top scorer in each of the last four seasons and is a fixture in the national side. He scored three goals at the World Cup.
Torres has been linked with Newcastle United, Barcelona, AC Milan and Tottenham Hotspur over the course of the last two seasons.
Atletico, who finished 12th in the Primera Liga last season, appear to have good back-up coverage up front if Torres does leave the club.
They paid a club record fee of close to $28 million for Argentine teenager Sergio Aguero in May, while his compatriot Maxi Rodriguez and Serbia striker Mateja Kezman are also in the squad.
Kezman, who had a disappointing first season at Atletico and scored just eight league goals, told the club's website that he is determined to stay put.
'I know there have been offers for me because a lot of coaches have rung me,' said Kezman. 'But I have always said that I want to stay here. The fans haven't seen the best of Kezman.
'It's a new season, we've got new hopes and dreams, a new coach and a lot of players. This is a big club with big ambitions.'
MADRID, July 17 (Reuters) - The future of Spain striker Fernando Torres at Atletico Madrid remains uncertain, the club's coach Javier Aguirre said.
'I've spoken to Fernando and he hasn't been able to guarantee his presence in the team in the forthcoming season,' Aguirre was quoted as saying in sports daily Marca on Monday.
'The market is still open and a lot of things can happen, but it is clear that every day that passes is one day less for something to occur. What I want to make clear, though, is that Fernando has a great commitment to the club.'
Spanish and English media have reported that Manchester United are prepared to make a bid for the 22-year-old international who was one of Spain's most impressive performers at the World Cup.
The former youth team player has become the talisman at Atletico ever since making his debut as a 17-year-old when the club was in the second division.
He has been the top scorer in each of the last four seasons and is a fixture in the national side. He scored three goals at the World Cup.
Torres has been linked with Newcastle United, Barcelona, AC Milan and Tottenham Hotspur over the course of the last two seasons.
Atletico, who finished 12th in the Primera Liga last season, appear to have good back-up coverage up front if Torres does leave the club.
They paid a club record fee of close to $28 million for Argentine teenager Sergio Aguero in May, while his compatriot Maxi Rodriguez and Serbia striker Mateja Kezman are also in the squad.
Kezman, who had a disappointing first season at Atletico and scored just eight league goals, told the club's website that he is determined to stay put.
'I know there have been offers for me because a lot of coaches have rung me,' said Kezman. 'But I have always said that I want to stay here. The fans haven't seen the best of Kezman.
'It's a new season, we've got new hopes and dreams, a new coach and a lot of players. This is a big club with big ambitions.'
This a weird scenario. The coach (Aguirre) is claiming he's not confident Torres will be an Athletico player next season, whereas his agent claims the opposite. Isn't it meant to be the other way around?? 
Stretch said:
Agreed. Very few will be able to match Ruud in his heydays...even the Ruud of now. Ruud of now/next season vs Saha of now/next season - that is the pertinent question.
irishmanc said:This a weird scenario. The coach (Aguirre) is claiming he's not confident Torres will be an Athletico player next season, whereas his agent claims the opposite. Isn't it meant to be the other way around??
Not really - each party is just trying to shift the pressure and attention away from themselves. And of course the ensuing fallout and blame-game of such a move.
savais said:
Same thing happened on here when there were rumours about Beckham leaving. The amount of shite on here about Becks being the best midfielder in the world rada rada rada, yet Beckham had not performed consistently brilliant in seasons ! Now we're getting the folk on here who are living out of a memory. The Caf has always and will always have people like that. Ruud was amazing when he came to Old Trafford. His record speaks for itself, but living in the here and now, and being realistic is what wins silverware.
The question is will he be able to reproduce the form of his past? Probably not.Stretch said:
It's not only his scoring, he still scored a lot of goals and would have probably been Prem top scorer if he wasn't benched later on. But Saha offers a lot more to the team than just goals, he creates space and chances for the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney. Most people would agree that we played our best football last season with Saha in the team and that he was instrumental in our late winning run.
Ruud in his prime > Saha, that's not in question.
Then there was Ruud's disinterest. Against Pool and Boro he couldn't be botherd anymore and according to Fergie he brought down the team moral toward the end.
Forget it you bunch of worthless muppets, he's not coming to United.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5187184.stm
Loofks like he is Staying according to his agent, Bu**er!!!!!!!!!!!
Loofks like he is Staying according to his agent, Bu**er!!!!!!!!!!!
I´ll wait until 31 aug, then i´ll panic over transfers
Torres and Rooney...yeah it will work.
Red Dreams said:
Rooney + a proven finisher like Toni would work much better IMO.
Tell you what, lets leave the Torres bullshit till :-
A - We see him in a United Shirt
B - We see him in another teams shirt
C - We see him signing a new contract with A.Madrid
A - We see him in a United Shirt
B - We see him in another teams shirt
C - We see him signing a new contract with A.Madrid
Are you talking to yourself now? I never said he was in the best form of his life throughout the season. You're stating the obvious, and trying to believe you have a point. He had a good season, especially the start, then in the second half he clearly lost form. Thats as obvious to a 3 year old child as it is to anyone. Whether he should have been sold, whether he is 'finished', whether he isnt the best finisher/goalscorer in the world, is debatable.Red17 said:
TheRedFlag said:
Dont say that!! How can you say that? Do you have evidence? You're affecting lots of lives here.
It's apparent on this forum that Fernando Torres is becoming bigger than Manchester United.
Kaiketsu_Zorro said:
Toni was played up front alone by the Italians....
yeah he would be great with Rooney...
think Toni is 28 isnt he?
Longsden_7 said:
Great idea.
Unfortunately, two chances of it happening, slim and none
SATA said:
What crap!kanchelskis14 said:
Clueless
amolbhatia100 said:
Refresh your memory please by rereading the threads leading up to this .....
amolbhatia100 said:
Well then, it appears that you don't really need to have a midfield to finish 2nd in the league. Actually, if you're referring to basically Giggs-O'Shea as CM then, top of the league, because our points tally in the 2nd half of the season puts us in the No. 1 spot!
SATA said:
To be honest that statement was the biggest bullshit i've heard in a long time
Typical response from someone who posted an utter load of nonsense without paying attention whats being said.Red17 said:
Wow. Now we dont need a midfielder either, but Torres is a must. You're on a roll.Red17 said:
amolbhatia100 said:
Well said. Fits you to a T.
amolbhatia100 said:
I'd love to see 2 top class CM signings just like the next Utd fan but to call our midfield "absloutely rubbish" is altogether another matter - just plain ridiculous and "over-acting". If we can profess our hate and detest of gamesmanship on the pitch - what does this make us? Hypocrites basically.
And you talk about success & loyalty - how about showing just some credit to the likes of O'Shea & Giggs who has held the CM together, against most peoples, including fans, derision.
Red17 said:
Come on now , yes they did well at the end of the season but we finished 2nd not 1st so it obviously wasn't good enough and the Midfield is definatley a need for drastic improvement. We should only be complementing success like everything in life!
Mainoldo said:
First off....you mean "...contemplating success..."
The points tally from all games beginning 1 Jan 06 to the end of the season would put us ahead at the top spot ahead of Chelsea. Really! Seriously!
I agree - top class midfield signings are critical for the season ahead but to call our CMs "absolute rubbish" is a disservice to them, especially Giggs & O'Shea.
Mainoldo said:
people also forget that we were out of Europe. anyone who expects Giggs to play week in week out in the Premiership, as well as in Europe, needs their head examined.
Red17 said:
It makes no difference mate. Yes we finished second, but an early exit from both champions leage and FA cup exposed our midfield frailties.
Absolutely rubbish....well maybe not....average andputting more pressure on other positions in the side...definately.
If we continue with that midfield dont be expecting us to finish above chelsea, the scousers or the arse
londonredmaniac said:
I can agree with that.
I have. Loads of times. I enjoyed last season. I thought our attacking players in particular were fantastic. Rooney, Ruud in the first half, Saha, Giggs, Ronaldo etc. All of it done playing attractive attacking football. Finishing second behind this Championship manager created Chelsea team is nothing be ashamed of. I give a lot of credit to the Oshea Giggs combination. As you've pointed out, yes we got all those points then.Red17 said:
But seriously that doesnt mean we arent poor in that area. Giggs will continue to do well, he plays further up, likes to push on from midfield. Where we are lacking is in deeper central areas. Fletcher, Smith, Oshea just arent good enough. It works at times, against not such good opposition. But against quality sides you get found out. In the end these players at times last season got he job done, other times they got found out. Our midfield is not good enough. Compare it to Alonso, Gerrard of Liverpool. Essien, Lampard and Makele of Chelsea(not to mention Maniche). Or to Gattuso, Pirlo of Milan. We lack quality in that department. Theres no doubt about that. We've all known that for some time. And that needs to be resolved and should be our main priority.
Red17 said:
i dont want to be the doom mounger, im looking forward to the new season and gettin up to Old Trafford as much as possible.
But people think that because we finished second last year with a poor midfield we can produce the miracle again.
Chelsea will be stronger, Liverpool have got a good squad and if they can find someone who can score 25 plus goals they are going to be there abouts. Arsenal could go either way but have enough quality..spurs are looking stronger and i fully expect them to be better than last season.
I cant see that Fergie will not sign anyone, but we have let others get on with business while we seem quite happy to hang around