Transfer Tweets - 2018/19 | Remember if posting foreign language tweets to post in English too

[Longjohnson Shagwell]

I agree with you but at the moment he’s (unbelievably) our best option at RB. Until we get a replacement we should keep him. He’s a good squad player but no way should he be starting every week like he does.

Yeah I agree here, Dalot is not ready for the first team yet imo, so unfortunatly who else do we have who can play there?

I do remember fergie using Cb's at RB many times. Smalling, jones, oshea, brown. I wonder why we dont try that above playing a 33 year old winger there?

 

[Hoof the ball]

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I've never understood why West Ham haven't given Oxford a chance at the club. He broke onto the scene at 16 and made his first team debut, then went on successive loans to European clubs, and from my understanding, all were relatively successful.

 

[Strats]

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Arrogant shite of a boy. Can't stand the twat.

 

[Damien]

Cheers for the heads up, still weird that Honigstein and Marcotti would be following him though..

They follow over 1000 accounts each. Bound to be a few that slip through the net.

 

[Cee90]

Our own fans need to give more respect to Young to be honest.

He’s been a good player for us who gives his all and he would still be a good squad option for another year in my opinion.

 

[T00lsh3d]

Wants to follow in the line of youngsters who have come through, like...

Micah Richards.

I can’t possibly see

Our own fans need to give more respect to Young to be honest.

He’s been a good player for us who gives his all and he would still be a good squad option for another year in my opinion.

Totally agree. It’s fair enough to want an upgrade on the position, but the guy gets an unwarranted level of criticism

 

[ayushreddevil9]

@Adnan that "Paul" is a fraud. Profile picture is of former president of Al-Hilal: http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Abdulrahman_bin_Musa'ad

and you can see the image they cropped on the following page: http://www.ziare.com/laurentiu-reghecampf/poze-video/pag23

What is this related to?

 

[L1nk]

Our own fans need to give more respect to Young to be honest.

He’s been a good player for us who gives his all and he would still be a good squad option for another year in my opinion.

I can’t possibly see


Totally agree. It’s fair enough to want an upgrade on the position, but the guy gets an unwarranted level of criticism

The amount of criticism he gets is fair, it's not his fault, but it's fair, he keeps getting it because he keeps being put into a position to get it, namely, in the First Team, where he shouldn't be. To say he's been a good player for us is stretching it a bit, he's been ok, he's an average player who has whipped in a few good crosses and has scored some worldies, but i'm sick of this club and these kinds of players, we need consistent great performers. Why does everyone love players that aren't very good at all but they work hard and "do a job", people seem to like languishing in mediocrity whilst other clubs are ruthless and realise when it's time to actually let go of a player and bring better ones in.

We're still hanging onto Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo etc. If we are to return to the top, players like this need to be chucked out, it's as simple as that, none of these players would be considered as first teamers for any top team, picture Barcelona or Bayern Munich with Ashley Young as a squad player, or Phil Jones as a squad player. Just chuck them out and replace them with a youth player or bring in someone else, it's that simple. Of course I respect the fact that he's played for United, the team and the club, and played for the fans, on a ridiculously higher wage packet than he's actually worth as a player by the way, but when it's time to cut your losses, you gotta do it, he's 33, either offer him vastly reduced sums or let him go.

 

[Devil may care]

The amount of criticism he gets is fair, it's not his fault, but it's fair, he keeps getting it because he keeps being put into a position to get it, namely, in the First Team, where he shouldn't be. To say he's been a good player for us is stretching it a bit, he's been ok, he's an average player who has whipped in a few good crosses and has scored some worldies, but i'm sick of this club and these kinds of players, we need consistent great performers. Why does everyone love players that aren't very good at all but they work hard and "do a job", people seem to like languishing in mediocrity whilst other clubs are ruthless and realise when it's time to actually let go of a player and bring better ones in.

We're still hanging onto Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo etc. If we are to return to the top, players like this need to be chucked out, it's as simple as that, none of these players would be considered as first teamers for any top team, picture Barcelona or Bayern Munich with Ashley Young as a squad player, or Phil Jones as a squad player. Just chuck them out and replace them with a youth player or bring in someone else, it's that simple. Of course I respect the fact that he's played for United, the team and the club, and played for the fans, on a ridiculously higher wage packet than he's actually worth as a player by the way, but when it's time to cut your losses, you gotta do it, he's 33, either offer him vastly reduced sums or let him go.

I fully agree with this, especially the bolded part, we've let standards drop over the last 5 years where "Putting in a shift" is deemed enough to be worthy of wearing the United shirt.

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

Arrogant shite of a boy. Can't stand the twat.

But apart from that he's alright.

 

[Strats]

Good player, but not as alright as he thinks to be.

Spurs would have been good move for him.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Remember when there was a lot of hype surrounding Reece Oxford. Hasn't quite lived up to it. Still young, mind, so he's still got more than enough time to progress.

 

[BlueHaze]

What is this related to?

Some plonker with a fake twitter profile who claimed Koulibaly to Man Utd was "very close"

 

[L1nk]

I fully agree with this, especially the bolded part, we've let standards drop over the last 5 years where "Putting in a shift" is deemed enough to be worthy of wearing the United shirt.

Mind blowing isn't it. I think it's the sense of entitlement, thinking we are better than everyone else as a club, the sentimentality and romanticism of it all, that anyone can play for United as long as they run around and put their heart into it, being an actual good footballer seems to been completely moved to the wayside in all this now. Like who cares that Young is completely average, old, on massively inflated wages etc, he runs around with passion, we should definitely keep him around till he retires here.

 

[Nate Dogg]

Some plonker with a fake twitter profile who claimed Koulibaly to Man Utd was "very close"

Was it Indykalia?

 

[BlueHaze]

Was it Indykalia?

Profile name was Paul_beIN.

 

[T00lsh3d]

Mind blowing isn't it. I think it's the sense of entitlement, thinking we are better than everyone else as a club, the sentimentality and romanticism of it all, that anyone can play for United as long as they run around and put their heart into it, being an actual good footballer seems to been completely moved to the wayside in all this now. Like who cares that Young is completely average, old, on massively inflated wages etc, he runs around with passion, we should definitely keep him around till he retires here.

Well we’re obviously different in that respect. I can be of the opinion that we need to upgrade that position without slating Young. He contributes to the maximum of his ability most of the time. If that is not enough for the club (and bare in mind he’s a converted bloody winger, not even a specialist full back) then the onus is on the club to sort out the upgrade. I don’t feel it’s worth bashing young in this situation....it only would be if he was half-arsing it, which he clearly is not.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Some plonker with a fake twitter profile who claimed Koulibaly to Man Utd was "very close"

Oh cool. Thanks!

 

[United_We_Stand]

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"The Blues are already in talks to try to sign Christian Pulisic, who can play on either wing, but Borussia Dortmund have so far been adamant the United States international will not move in January....Lyon’s Nabil Fekir is another winger Chelsea have shown an interest in and Sarri currently believes that position is more of a concern than his strikers."

 

[Devil may care]

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"The Blues are already in talks to try to sign Christian Pulisic, who can play on either wing, but Borussia Dortmund have so far been adamant the United States international will not move in January....Lyon’s Nabil Fekir is another winger Chelsea have shown an interest in and Sarri currently believes that position is more of a concern than his strikers."

That's weird given I'd say striker is arguably their weakest position but outside of Hazard they don't have much on the wings, to think some bought into the idea of swapping Martial for Willian.

 

[yumtum]

So they value CHO at 40m but don't think he's good enough to start.

Nutcases.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

That's weird given I'd say striker is arguably their weakest position but outside of Hazard they don't have much on the wings, to think some bought into the idea of swapping Martial for Willian.

That's the point. Hazard will play as a striker now.

They want someone to take the left wing role vacated by him.

 

[DWelbz19]

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"The Blues are already in talks to try to sign Christian Pulisic, who can play on either wing, but Borussia Dortmund have so far been adamant the United States international will not move in January....Lyon’s Nabil Fekir is another winger Chelsea have shown an interest in and Sarri currently believes that position is more of a concern than his strikers."

Mental how they’re going to chuck away yet another youth talent. Hudson Odoi is arguably the best one they’ve had in a long time too.

 

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I sooner Young stay for another year instead of fecking Captain pegleg.

 

[Adnan]

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[izec]

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"The Blues are already in talks to try to sign Christian Pulisic, who can play on either wing, but Borussia Dortmund have so far been adamant the United States international will not move in January....Lyon’s Nabil Fekir is another winger Chelsea have shown an interest in and Sarri currently believes that position is more of a concern than his strikers."

Sell Hudson Odoi for x amount of money (30-40m?) and buy Pulisic for 50m
Dont get it really, Pulisic is good, but a bit of a pointless transfer when you got Odoi, who will end up at Bayern

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

So they value CHO at 40m but don't think he's good enough to start.

Nutcases.

Because Granovskaia is one of the best in the business......Salihamidzic will go back to Munich with CHO for 20m and he will think "I've done a great job to get him for just 20m".

 

[izec]

Because Granovskaia is one of the best in the business......Salihamidzic will go back to Munich with CHO for 20m and he will think "I've done a great job to get him for just 20m".

And Zorc will think he has done great business selling Pulisic for 50m

 

[Cee90]

The amount of criticism he gets is fair, it's not his fault, but it's fair, he keeps getting it because he keeps being put into a position to get it, namely, in the First Team, where he shouldn't be. To say he's been a good player for us is stretching it a bit, he's been ok, he's an average player who has whipped in a few good crosses and has scored some worldies, but i'm sick of this club and these kinds of players, we need consistent great performers. Why does everyone love players that aren't very good at all but they work hard and "do a job", people seem to like languishing in mediocrity whilst other clubs are ruthless and realise when it's time to actually let go of a player and bring better ones in.

We're still hanging onto Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo etc. If we are to return to the top, players like this need to be chucked out, it's as simple as that, none of these players would be considered as first teamers for any top team, picture Barcelona or Bayern Munich with Ashley Young as a squad player, or Phil Jones as a squad player. Just chuck them out and replace them with a youth player or bring in someone else, it's that simple. Of course I respect the fact that he's played for United, the team and the club, and played for the fans, on a ridiculously higher wage packet than he's actually worth as a player by the way, but when it's time to cut your losses, you gotta do it, he's 33, either offer him vastly reduced sums or let him go.

I fully agree with this, especially the bolded part, we've let standards drop over the last 5 years where "Putting in a shift" is deemed enough to be worthy of wearing the United shirt.

Ok where to start...

First of all, even under SAF we had squad players. Every team has squad players. You cannot realistically expect us to fill our squad with world class players in every position, nor do you need to in order to be successful.

Examples of a few similar players who weren't the best, but were good solid squad options who added value to our team, won a lot, and are similar to Young in that regard (IMO):

- O'Shea
- Fletcher
- Park
- Evans
- Brown
- Smalling
- Smith

You may not agree with the list above in its entirety, but surely you get the point.

This absolutely has nothing at all to do with me (and other United fans) dropping their standards. It's just the reality that you need a squad of players with the right mentality who are capable of filling in where needed. Again, Young fits this description perfectly. To say all he has done is 'whipped in a few good crosses', quite frankly, is absurd and a huge injustice to a good servant to our club.

Also, by keeping players like Young around who can realistically fill in various positions (LB, RB, LW, RW) provides our manager(s) with the flexibility they need to make in-game changes, and also allows us to focus on more important areas where we need to improve in the transfer market. Even though we are a rich club, we are not going to replace every squad player with a world class talent, it's just not realistic.

Nobody is saying Young should necessarily be a first-teamer for us, but I think you are both showing him a lack of respect which he doesn't deserve.

However, I do agree that we shouldn't hang on to all of Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo. Me personally, I'd only keep Young and Smalling.

Also, I don't know why you are comparing us to Barcelona or Bayern. Why not take a look closer to home, at City and Liverpool for example?

They also have squad players like:

- Moreno
- Clyne
- Milner
- Delph
- Danilo
- Zinchenko
- Lallana
- Matip

Do you think these players are world class? Obviously not. But they are kept around because they still add value to the club and the manager by giving them options, and won't kick up a fuss if they are benched.

 

[Devil may care]

Mind blowing isn't it. I think it's the sense of entitlement, thinking we are better than everyone else as a club, the sentimentality and romanticism of it all, that anyone can play for United as long as they run around and put their heart into it, being an actual good footballer seems to been completely moved to the wayside in all this now. Like who cares that Young is completely average, old, on massively inflated wages etc, he runs around with passion, we should definitely keep him around till he retires here.

Yeah, there is this weird thing where some fans think we are too good and decent of a fanbase to think a player is not good enough for play for us, just bizarre.

That's the point. Hazard will play as a striker now.

They want someone to take the left wing role vacated by him.

Hazard isn't a striker though, he needs the freedom to float off the left.

 

[Devil may care]

Ok where to start...

First of all, even under SAF we had squad players. Every team has squad players. You cannot realistically expect us to fill our squad with world class players in every position, nor do you need to in order to be successful.

Examples of a few similar players who weren't the best, but were good solid squad options who added value to our team, won a lot, and are similar to Young in that regard (IMO):

- O'Shea
- Fletcher
- Park
- Evans
- Brown
- Smalling
- Smith

You may not agree with the list above in its entirety, but surely you get the point.

This absolutely has nothing at all to do with me (and other United fans) dropping their standards. It's just the reality that you need a squad of players with the right mentality who are capable of filling in where needed. Again, Young fits this description perfectly. To say all he has done is 'whipped in a few good crosses', quite frankly, is absurd and a huge injustice to a good servant to our club.

Also, by keeping players like Young around who can realistically fill in various positions (LB, RB, LW, RW) provides our manager(s) with the flexibility they need to make in-game changes, and also allows us to focus on more important areas where we need to improve in the transfer market. Even though we are a rich club, we are not going to replace every squad player with a world class talent, it's just not realistic.

Nobody is saying Young should necessarily be a first-teamer for us, but I think you are both showing him a lack of respect which he doesn't deserve.

However, I do agree that we shouldn't hang on to all of Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo. Me personally, I'd only keep Young and Smalling.

Also, I don't know why you are comparing us to Barcelona or Bayern. Why not take a look closer to home, at City and Liverpool for example?

They also have squad players like:

- Moreno
- Clyne
- Milner
- Delph
- Danilo
- Zinchenko
- Lallana
- Matip

Do you think these players are world class? Obviously not. But they are kept around because they still add value to the club and the manager by giving them options, and won't kick up a fuss if they are benched.

Young and Valencia haven't been used as squad players over the last few seasons though, they have been our starting fullbacks more often than not. It's like Lingard, I'm the first to defend him as a good squad player when people say sell him, and right now he has to start as our options are limited, but he needs upgrading to take the role of squad player, that's the difference for me, we are playing squad players as starters and have been doing so for years now, and we are paying squad players starter money, you could argue that all of our CB's are not good enough to be anything but squad players for instance, back in the day the players you listed were exactly that while we had world class starters like Rio, Vidic and Evra.

It has nothing to do with respect, IMO Young is a bang average footballer who I never wanted us to sign, yes he fills in in a few positions but he doesn't play any of them all that well and that has become an issue at United, too many odd job players and not enough genuine starting quality. He'll be 34 when next season starts and likely still our starting RB as Dalot isn't ready, I think him and Valencia both need jettisoning along with Darmian, Jones, Fellaini and Rojo.

 

[Cee90]

Young and Valencia haven't been used as squad players over the last few seasons though, they have been our starting fullbacks more often than not. It's like Lingard, I'm the first to defend him as a good squad player when people say sell him, and right now he has to start as our options are limited, but he needs upgrading to take the role of squad player, that's the difference for me, we are playing squad players as starters and have been doing so for years now, and we are paying squad players starter money, you could argue that all of our CB's are not good enough to be anything but squad players for instance, back in the day the players you listed were exactly that while we had world class starters like Rio, Vidic and Evra.

It has nothing to do with respect, IMO Young is a bang average footballer who I never wanted us to sign, yes he fills in in a few positions but he doesn't play any of them all that well and that has become an issue at United, too many odd job players and not enough genuine starting quality. He'll be 34 when next season starts and likely still our starting RB as Dalot isn't ready, I think him and Valencia both need jettisoning along with Darmian, Jones, Fellaini and Rojo.

I hear you, but is it Young's fault that we do not have better players than him at the club?

Young should be a squad rotation option, and if he stays with us next year, that's what I fully expect him to be for us. There's no way he will be our starting RB next season unless there are injury problems IMO. I also think Dalot will make the RB position his own this season, and if he doesn't, a new RB will be purchased to provide additional competition.

I agree he has played more games than I perhaps would have liked him too as well, but as I said, he gives it his all and I really do think he provides glimpses of genuine quality. Valencia is a different story, I can't wait for him to leave as I do not think he adds much value to our squad at all, whereas Young still does IMO.

 

[tenpoless]

What's IndyKaila up to these days?

And We should keep Young/Valencia for at least one more season.

 

[Red_toad]

Part of the problem of this club is retaining bang average players like Young that can "do a job" for far longer than we should be, and the supporters wanting to keep them, if I owned United i'd tear up this guys contract, along with Phil Jones. Ship out the deadwood ffs, people complain we don't do it then when there are articles about it people wanna retain them as squad players.

Maybe the owners wish to retain players as it’s more expensive to buy a replacement.
Fans always make it sound simple parting with a few tens of millions. But in real life...
Young is actually our best right back option at present, he’s also useful at left back. Needs upgrading yes but a very good player to retain.

 

[Devil may care]

I hear you, but is it Young's fault that we do not have better players than him at the club?

Young should be a squad rotation option, and if he stays with us next year, that's what I fully expect him to be for us. There's no way he will be our starting RB next season unless there are injury problems IMO. I also think Dalot will make the RB position his own this season, and if he doesn't, a new RB will be purchased to provide additional competition.

I agree he has played more games than I perhaps would have liked him too as well, but as I said, he gives it his all and I really do think he provides glimpses of genuine quality. Valencia is a different story, I can't wait for him to leave as I do not think he adds much value to our squad at all, whereas Young still does IMO.

No, the fact we haven't replace him or Valencia fully at the club is on the board who don't seem to want to spend heavily in a position that doesn't usually provide a marketable player.

I rate Dalot and I hope you are right but I think it will take him a while yet to become the starting RB for us, and I don't think we'll get anyone in to give him breathing room, we'll just continue with not only Young but probably Valencia as well. I feel Young, Valencia and Darmian should go and we should get in an experienced RB like Meunier and an LB to compete with Shaw.

We differ on Young's quality but I respect your opinion and part of it might also be how tired I've grown of seeing us repeatedly fail to fully address the fullback situation at the club, when it is such a vital position in the modern game.

 

[peridigm]

What's IndyKaila up to these days?

And We should keep Young/Valencia for at least one more season.

Got promoted to assistant to the regional manager.

 

[MikeKing]

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If it looks like Martial, and smiles like Martial... then its probably a martial

 

[Nugget]

Got promoted to assistant to the regional manager.

This is my favorite post of the year!

 

[AN17]

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We'll throw in Fellaini and Jones too.

 

[Woodzy]

If it looks like Martial, and smiles like Martial... then its probably a martial

It's what the child would like if Ashley Young and Martial had a baby.