Tbf, you can win the lottery, shit gold and have Angelina Jolie waiting in your bed every night and have crippling depression.Oh do go feck yourself .
I'm not saying depression is something to ridicule, we all know someone who has suffered from it and it's a terrible thing.
My point is, him crying about 'dark times' when he has just won the league, is paid a fortune for sitting on a bench, is insensitive and idiotic at a time such as this where there are people suffering way more than he claims to have.
It's dreamworld thinking we could get 50m between Dalot and Lingard. Or 8m for Mata. Or 10m for Jones.Do love peoples different valuations, personally think the guy you are responding to, that his lower end of the valuations is more accurate than yours. Do you think we would actually sell those three for £20m in total, really? One may have been poor for the last year and the other injured a lot, but these are two England internationals after all. Name me two England internationals you could buy for £20m let alone including Dalot as well. I am not saying that people are going to pay for them but if you think we are selling those three for £20m in total you are mad
No chance! The only realistic price you have is Smalling. No one will spend 30-35 million on Lingard with his 3 or 4 goals/assists in 2 years. 25-30 mil on Dalot? What would you value Williams or TFM, 50 mil? Can you tell which club(s) would take Jones off our hands for 15-25 mil? He can't even stay fit for 5 minutes. The likes of Sanchez, Mata and Rojo would not get transfer fees. You need to consider the wages we pay these players.Never mind 50m, it would be more like 100m+, though it's unlikely we'll sell them all:
Smalling - 15m-20m
Rojo - 5m-10m
Dalot - 25m-30m
Lingard - 30m-35m
Pereira (even though I don't think we'll sell him just yet) - 10m-15m
Mata - 8m-10m
Sanchez - realistically I think we'll write it off to get his wages off the books rather than get a fee, but if we can, then it would be 20m, tops
Jones - 15m-25m
smalling is the best player among the bunch we want to get rid, if he is going for 20, It is optimistic to think anyone out there will pay more for worse. Lingard is damaged goods, no one outside of moyes has shown any interest and why would they, being a English international means for little when you haven't scored or assisted for a whole calender year. The only reason to buy jones is if you want to make the physio and doctors earns their salaries.Conversely I think you guys are being overly pessimistic. The deal that's been mooted with Roma is 21m (3m loan, 18m compulsory purchase order).
The likes of Lingard and Jones are England internationals and will have a certain cache with midtable clubs. I can certainly see Everton being interested in the former, while the latter could easily end up at a team like West Ham or Burnley (though Burnley might be an issue with a lad who came through at Blackburn)
Dalot meanwhile is very young still, and does have a good reputation on the continent.
The fact that all of them still have a lot of time left on their contracts mean we will be more likely to get somewhere close to their valuations, Covid permitting.
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About £10m more added to our transfer kitty potentially.
No. I think everybody was pleased that we managed to keep the sell on fee in there.I thought a sell-on fee was taken off due to the AWB deal ?
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He’s a very talented player but is an absolute hot headGood signing, but does have a habit of picking up stupid red cards
Seems like he’s sorted his attitude out a bit this season, a lot less silly red cards. Surprised no PL clubs were trying to sign him.Good signing, but does have a habit of picking up stupid red cards
The key problem selling players is the contracts they are on which is something we are not learning from giving a 3year contract to Matic at his age, ridiculous. The last person suggested we wouldnt get £20m for the three you ,mention excluding Mata, that is pure crazy. I dont think we will get £50m for the three let alone two either, but certainly more than £20m and I would expect nearer £40m. You even state yourself £8m might only get a mid table championship player" so how an earth do you value these players at the same price or less then pretty much? RidiculousIt's dreamworld thinking we could get 50m between Dalot and Lingard. Or 8m for Mata. Or 10m for Jones.
Time will tell but i bet the latter two will go for free when they do go.
Who is taking Lingards 100k a week on?!
And what we buy for is unrelated to what we sell for.
8m might only get a mid table championship player for us, but being United and that player being on the up hype the fee up.
Our sales are generally players on the way down and on huge wages.
Don’t get why we would sell Dalot. He’s better than TFM at right back and decent cover to AWB
I would see or ship out our permacrocks tbh no matter how much potential or how good they are. There are many things we are guilt of doing poorly as a club in recent years but waiting for players to get fit is the worst because it has prevented us getting a run of players together to gel. In defense especially we have Dalot, Bailly and Jones that is like ground hog day. We expect them to have a great year once they are fit then they never are.He has a chronic hip problem that's been affecting his knee. We have sent him to specialists across the world for it. He failed his medical and we still signed him if I remember correctly.
I imagine hes been struggling to get fit enough for the managers liking, or there might be other problems with his attitude.
Either way, I hope he can get fitter and get his chance. I fancy him against some of the low block teams.
Would that be £30 million for us then? Has he been poor this year? I havent watched him much this season but that would be a great deal for a player who can play all across the front and would be a nightmare coming off bench for tired opposition. I really rate him, not as a starter but for that price we should consider him as he isn't a huge drop off.Tweet
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He might be sold. A percentage of 40 million is better than a nothing of 70 million.Am I missing something but how is Zaha's valuation dropping a good thing for us?
Other way around, I'm pretty sure. CP offered him at a lower price in exchange for getting rid of the Zaha sell on. We paid full price to keep it in place.I thought a sell-on fee was taken off due to the AWB deal ?
30m to us out of 40m? NoWould that be £30 million for us then? Has he been poor this year? I havent watched him much this season but that would be a great deal for a player who can play all across the front and would be a nightmare coming off bench for tired opposition. I really rate him, not as a starter but for that price we should consider him as he isn't a huge drop off.
He's suggesting we could sign Zaha for£30m.30m to us out of 40m? No
Ohhhh, that wouldn't be a bad deal, although I doubt he would want to come sit on our bench againHe's suggesting we could sign Zaha for£30m.
Good point. Still can't see him being sold, I think he's missed the boat.He might be sold. A percentage of 40 million is better than a nothing of 70 million.
I suspect Ole may get 'a left-footed centre back', who can also play left-back, i.e. Blind, Rojo, etc and use Williams as back up to Wan-Bissaka on the right.Don’t get why we would sell Dalot. He’s better than TFM at right back and decent cover to AWB
He is shiteReally thought he was destined to join a premier league team..
He’s not shite he can score something from nothing many a club could be doing with him Palace, Villa, Newcastle etcHe is shite
So that's Jonathan David, Burak Yilmaz, and now Alfredo Morelos all close to signing to Lille. Are they looking at multiple options just so they can find a bargain, or are the journalists jumping the gun here?Tweet
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Obviously Osihmen has gone and I saw Ikone to Dortmund rumours today. Add to that the fact they have Loic Remy as one of their strikers it wouldn’t surprise me if they got al least 2 new forwards.So that's Jonathan David, Burak Yilmaz, and now Alfredo Morelos all close to signing to Lille. Are they looking at multiple options just so they can find a bargain, or are the journalists jumping the gun here?
This explains the Jonathan David situation, at least.So that's Jonathan David, Burak Yilmaz, and now Alfredo Morelos all close to signing to Lille. Are they looking at multiple options just so they can find a bargain, or are the journalists jumping the gun here?
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I think they are making a big mistake signing Hakan on. I've never been a fan of his during his time at Leverkusen and besides the last month he has also been nothing more than decent for AC Milan. They would be well advised to sell him while his stock may be high and go for another player to run their offense.Tweet
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Summary:
- Ibra interested in renewing
- Milan may give in to Ibra's demands
- Ibra had an option to renew for 6 million Euros a season, which expired in May
- Milan will meet with Raiola to discuss Donnarumma's renewal
- Calhanoglu is very interested in continuing with Milan
- Milan may insert an exit clause
I don’t see anyone paying much money for him, though.I think they are making a big mistake signing Hakan on. I've never been a fan of his during his time at Leverkusen and besides the last month he has also been nothing more than decent for AC Milan. They would be well advised to sell him while his stock may be high and go for another player to run their offense.
If they give him a big new contract it will only constrain them for a number of years.
