We already spent the Lukaku money on Maguire.
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Feck off Inter.
No we didn't. They say we still have this money for his replacement.
We had Fellaini for that.
Had. Also, he was a midfielder not a striker.
With Lukaku gone we have no real height in the forward areas and nobody who can head the ball.
We'll predominantly be playing on the break this season, but will still come up against a few sides who'll sit deep in a low block, against whom our pace in behind will be useless. For those occasions, a big man to cross the ball to might just grab us a few vital points.
Even saintly Pep Guardiola isn't adversed to sticking a CB up front in the latter stages of games where his side is chasing a goal against a team defending in a low block.
We'll predominantly be playing on the break this season, but will still come up against a few sides who'll sit deep in a low block, against whom our pace in behind will be useless. For those occasions, a big man to cross the ball to might just grab us a few vital points.
Even saintly Pep Guardiola isn't adversed to sticking a CB up front in the latter stages of games where his side is chasing a goal against a team defending in a low block.
McT is 6ft 5
Are you suggesting Lukaku could head the ball?
You don't see good clubs resorting to that shit, we shouldn't be either, we never did that under Fergie, we never carried lump players in the squad as Fergie didn't believe in them, same a he didn't believe in pure DM's that offer nothing on the ball. On top of that he's crap, if we'd wanted that type of player then Ole should have been given the money needed to sign Manduzkic whois much better all round.
I agree. Getting rid of Lukaku and Fellaini was a good step. Going back to Llorente is a step backwards. Learn to play without hoofing to a big lump up front.
And decent in the air. But, with Matic having regressed to the point where he possesses the speed and turning circle of an oil tanker, we really need McTominay in midfield.
Ideally, yes. But we simply don't have the quality or creativity in the side to break deep defences down. This has been clearly apparent for three+ seasons now and absolutely nothing has been done to rectify it. While that remains the case, having a plan B as a tactical option, is perhaps prudent (not that Llorente would be my choice - as noted above, Mandzukic would have made much more sense).
Our midfield and attack clearly aren't good enough to break down tough defences yet. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic. Llorente would be a temporary solution. Can't get Mandzukic now or anybody else in now.
Getting rid of Fellaini and the 'we need a big man for plan B' tactic was one of the very first things Solskjaer did as United manager and I can't see us going back to that with him in charge. Good thing too as it was awful to watch and almost never worked.
Having a big man up top as Plan B would stink nastily of the Van Gaal era. And it's not as if we're capable of putting in decent crosses, so is fatally flawed anyway.
Exactly, we know if we are realistic that this season is a tough ask to get top 4, it should be about instilling the playing ethos Ole wants, and we aren't going to do that by resorting to Mourinho methods.
For starers he's crap, but the bottom line is we made our bed with a poor transfer window and now we need to lie in it. I'm already against Matic and Mata taking up bench space over Garner and Gomes as both are finished, and it's going to be Greenwood or James that lose a spot in the matchday 18 if we add another snail to the squad. Top 4 struggles were created by our board, I'd rather focus on trying to see what these kids have got than bringing in desperation lumps who are way past their best that will take the spots of young, dynamic players.
PSG can buy these players, we've spent nothing yet. I reckon if you replace Bale who's worth nothing by €50m+ you have a chance to seal a deal.
The difference this year, is that we have Martial who has sharp ball control and trickiness in and around the box.
We couldn't play like that with Lukaku, as it'd ricochet off him, and he has very little capability to steal past people in tight areas.
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Lukaku couldn't head the ball if he was in a fecking bucket truck.
Gueye and Diallo, plus Ander's big wages
If you were in a position to just add new expensive players without selling some of yours you wouldn't be waiting to move neymar before signing dybala
You mean other than the team that just made the CL final by resorting to that. And with Llorente, too!
Bollocks. Liverpool do it when they need to and they’re European Champions.
This too.
That's Spurs, I want us to aim higher and they did it so rarely it's a flimsy example, tell me do you want Greenwood on the bench or this clod?.
this is a weak argument, pushing your big CB up the pitch at the end of a game to add an aerial threat isn't the same as using up bench space on a lumbering, aging has-been.
What makes you think he'd replace Greenwood on the bench?
Because Mata wont lose his spot, so it's going to be Greenwood the striker or James the winger, neither of whom I'd want removed from the matchday squad for this junk option.
It’s not about big man up top it’s about numbers and getting someone in on a free whilst offloading the Sanchez issue (which is more than just cost it’s precedent and stigma).
Llorente allows us to do that without impacting on the potential of greenwood.
Personally I think welbeck or Sturridge would have been better bets to achieve a similar goal.
Llorente allows us to do that without impacting on the potential of greenwood.
Personally I think welbeck or Sturridge would have been better bets to achieve a similar goal.
You realize signing him doesn't mean he has to be ahead of greenwood or james in the pecking order?
I realize that he isn't coming in for the honour of playing for United, he'll be getting paid more than Greenwood and James combined which will give him preference, and if the whole point is having this plan B then what's the point of bringing him if he's not on the bench to be plan B? it's the same as right now Mata and Matic are on the bench over Garner and Gomes despite the fact both of them are finished. We already fecked this season up with the crappy transfer window, so I'd rather use it to focus on seeing what this crop of youngsters has which means lots of game time, not sitting behind three washed up snails every weekend.
Very much doubt that would be the case. Think the whole point is to make up the numbers in case Alexis leaves, not for this nebulous plan B. Him being an actually decent and useful player, who also offers something different from any other forward on your team is why you'd go for him instead of some random free agent
This is a player who wasn't out of place and in fact ended up being decisive in a CL quarter final match against city and a SF against ajax. He's decent cover. But i don't see United being interested in him to take minutes and chances away from greenwood or james, not unless those two prove they're ready
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Fecking cheapskate club. They probably won't even take up the option to buy, and return him to us after a season a year older.
I hope they get brought back down to earth from their high horse like they did with Flukaku and Perisic.
Why are we even meeting them over such a piss take of a proposal?
And we sold even more in young players which represents a huge benefit in accounting terms. Dybala isn't a priority at the moment with Cavani, Mbappé, Neymar, ADM, Sarabia and Draxler available.
Did anyone really expect any different from Inter, or any other Italian club for that matter?
Because its probably not the actual offer, its a journo plucking a figure from his arse.
Why not a 1 yr deal. WHY 2 YEARS! Doing the Same stupid mistake again. More dead weight. Yay!
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