Tyler Dibling

Stadjer said:
Come on, the only right reaction to the claim that prime Kane is close to prime Ronaldinho are laughter emotions. Ronaldinho didnt have a very long prime but during his prime Ronaldinho was crazy. Ronaldinho got a standing ovation from Real Madrid fans as a Barcelona player while destroying the Real Madrid defense.

Ronaldinho is an all time great, Kane will be remembered as one of the better strikers of his generation.
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Don't know what's so laughable. Have no doubt Ronaldinho is one of the most talented players I've ever seen and one of my personal favourites of all time but Kane has had a ludicrous career in terms of individual performances and were it not for his loyalty to Spurs, he would have comfortably spearheaded any champion's league winning team from the last 10 years. Obviously totally different style to Ronaldinho so the comparison itself is a bit strange but Kane is absolutely an elite player worthy of comparison to most of the great forwards of all time.

Think a lot of top managers would choose a prime Kane (11 seasons so far with over 20 goal contributions, 6 w/ 30+ and 1 w 40+) over a prime Ronaldinho (4 league seasons w/20+ goal contributions) if they could only choose one to put in their teams. Too many people weight aesthetics overly high in their evaluations of players abilities.
 
Bojan Djordjic said:
Don't know what's so laughable. Have no doubt Ronaldinho is one of the most talented players I've ever seen and one of my personal favourites of all time but Kane has had a ludicrous career in terms of individual performances and were it not for his loyalty to Spurs, he would have comfortably spearheaded any champion's league winning team from the last 10 years. Obviously totally different style to Ronaldinho so the comparison itself is a bit strange but Kane is absolutely an elite player worthy of comparison to most of the great forwards of all time.

Think a lot of top managers would choose a prime Kane (11 seasons so far with over 20 goal contributions, 6 w/ 30+ and 1 w 40+) over a prime Ronaldinho (4 league seasons w/20+ goal contributions) if they could only choose one to put in their teams. Too many people weight aesthetics overly high in their evaluations of players abilities.
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This is the problem with football nowadays. Too many people will just go by stats in a game which has changed dramatically in 20 years to compare completely different players. He's got better stats than Maradona too, shall we put him on the same level?

Ronaldinho is one of the greatest ever players to touch grass, Kane is one of the best strikers of this generation. It's crazy how anyone would compare the levels between the two.
 
So random shit account on the internet creates a clickbait news putting 100m pricetag on him and people panic.

Of course his price will be around 40-50m tops when they get relegated. And if not we will pass. Otherwise he might be a good profile for us. Young and hungry player able to perform who might double his price in the near future. Like Garnacho, Amad, Yoro or Mainoo.

He will be able to perform in the Premier League while getting better and better.

Let's see how that pans out, We are scounting many more players. We could easily get R.Fernandes and be happy.
 
I like him, as i did when I made the thread, but just dont see where he fits here? Obviously he wouldnt go straight in as a starter and there's an argument for buying, then developing talent, but in our current system we cant get the best out of Garnacho, who at this point is a better player than Dibling. He's not going to play as a wing back, and then are his best abilities hindered in a number 10 role?

Up to the manager of course and if Amorim judged him something he wanted then so be it.
 
He's probably better off staying with Southampton for a couple of seasons.

He's only 19.

I doubt Southampton needs the money.
 
next_number_seven said:
He's probably better off staying with Southampton for a couple of seasons.

He's only 19.

I doubt Southampton needs the money.
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Disagree. He's clearly good enough for the premier league. Makes no sense for him to spend another two seasons in the championship.
 
dubplate warrior said:
Disagree. He's clearly good enough for the premier league. Makes no sense for him to spend another two seasons in the championship.
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I agree. He will likely move to a PL club this summer. This looks like a Southampton team in free fall. Would not be surprised to see them in the lower half of the championship next season, even battling relegation.
 
dubplate warrior said:
Disagree. He's clearly good enough for the premier league. Makes no sense for him to spend another two seasons in the championship.
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He's better playing week in week out rather than sitting on the bench somewhere like Chelsea.

I guess it depends on the move.

Southampton are good at developing players and are a typical yo-yo club so could be back in the PL the season after next.

19 is very young.

2 more seasons at Southampton would be fine.
 
Weirdly this is the most excited I’ve been for a transfer window in years.

I quite like that we won’t be going for any huge names from top clubs. We need a more sensible approach
 
Dibling needs to move on and jump off the sinking ship. Southampton won't be coming back to the PL for a while anyway.
 
SER19 said:
I like him, as i did when I made the thread, but just dont see where he fits here? Obviously he wouldnt go straight in as a starter and there's an argument for buying, then developing talent, but in our current system we cant get the best out of Garnacho, who at this point is a better player than Dibling. He's not going to play as a wing back, and then are his best abilities hindered in a number 10 role?

Up to the manager of course and if Amorim judged him something he wanted then so be it.
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I think he's a better fit for the formation than Garnacho. He may not be the better player but he's definitely a better dribbler, a more natural one too. Reminds me of Grealish on the left. In this sense, he's better suited to the 10. His top speed is questionable but his sprint endurance is really good. He could interchange with Amad during games comfortably. If we can get him, Cunha and Delap, that'll be decent. Solid English base as well.
 
I think that dibling will leave for around 35m + add-ons
 
SER19 said:
I like him, as i did when I made the thread, but just dont see where he fits here? Obviously he wouldnt go straight in as a starter and there's an argument for buying, then developing talent, but in our current system we cant get the best out of Garnacho, who at this point is a better player than Dibling. He's not going to play as a wing back, and then are his best abilities hindered in a number 10 role?

Up to the manager of course and if Amorim judged him something he wanted then so be it.
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Is he? I'm pretty sure Garnacho can't beat a man or pass like Dibling. What exactly is it that he's better than him at?
 
dubplate warrior said:
Is he? I'm pretty sure Garnacho can't beat a man or pass like Dibling. What exactly is it that he's better than him at?
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I don't rate Garna in our current formation very highly at all. Dibling would be a better fit no doubt, and the extra home grown player is always useful.

I think there are better options out there for the #10, but at the right price (£35mish seems fine) he'd be a decent addition.
 
From 100m to 35m eh.

If true that price is quite sensible. We should definitely make these sorts of moves because there's a big chance we sell them for a profit in a worst case scenario
 
OleGunnar20 said:
I don't rate Garna in our current formation very highly at all. Dibling would be a better fit no doubt, and the extra home grown player is always useful.

I think there are better options out there for the #10, but at the right price (£35mish seems fine) he'd be a decent addition.
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Ye and if he shines then his value rises. We’re all about trying to make profit now rather than lose money. Signing young players for fairly cheap so they’ll have some value when selling on.
 
For £35m, get it done. There's a player in this kid.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ye and if he shines then his value rises. We’re all about trying to make profit now rather than lose money. Signing young players for fairly cheap so they’ll have some value when selling on.
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Sensible signing, assuming the wages are reasonably low. Even if he flops you'd expect he'd still be worth 15-20m in a couple of years at worst.

Other than the games against us I've only watched Saints' highlights. I know Dibling has played in a few positions but wonder if those who've watched him more feel he'd be an option at RWB?

Having both him and Amad comfortable at both RWB and #10 would be great.
 
Dibling and Delap are very sensible homegrown signings at those fees. At this rate of going Vivel is going to sign us a new team for the price of 2 or 3 Sanchos. The major question is how good can they be. I keep going back to Heaven. If they are solid technically and wanting to improve and work really hard and not put their feet up when they get here then it's already better than most of what we've signed over the last 20 years.
 
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Ali Dia said:
Dibling and Delap are very sensible homegrown signings at those fees. At this rate of going Vivel is going to sign us a new team for the price of 2 or 3 Sanchos. The major question is how good can they be. I keep going back to Heaven. If they are solid technically and wanting to improve and work really hard and not out their feet up when they get here then it's already better than most of what we've signed over the last 20 years.
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I'd say Dibling and Delap are more Wilcox signings, as he's familiar with them from city and Southampton.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
Sensible signing, assuming the wages are reasonably low. Even if he flops you'd expect he'd still be worth 15-20m in a couple of years at worst.

Other than the games against us I've only watched Saints' highlights. I know Dibling has played in a few positions but wonder if those who've watched him more feel he'd be an option at RWB?

Having both him and Amad comfortable at both RWB and #10 would be great.
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Ye that could be a useful tactic having them both interchange. But if we are in the market for a new RWB then Amad and Dibling as the 10s could be good as both are quite decent dribblers. But then would that mean Cunha came in as a 9? I see him more as a 10 but he’d be a more expensive one so maybe Diblings the alternative to Cunha if we can’t raise enough funds.
 
pcaming said:
I can see why some like the kid, but signing him solves none of our problems…
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I tend to disagree, I think he can play in the R10 position, he is physical, a good dribbler who is also good through the middle as well as out wide.
With him it about projecting though, I wouldn't want him to be the only singing for the 10 position, but I think he could be one of them with tons of upside given we will likely to be getting rid of Rashford, Sancho, Antony at the least from that position I think he could be a good addition (along with another signing)
 
Cassidy said:
I tend to disagree, I think he can play in the R10 position, he is physical, a good dribbler who is also good through the middle as well as out wide.
With him it about projecting though, I wouldn't want him to be the only singing for the 10 position, but I think he could be one of them with tons of upside given we will likely to be getting rid of Rashford, Sancho, Antony at the least from that position I think he could be a good addition (along with another signing)
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He would be a bench player then as he's not close to amad.
 
pcaming said:
I can see why some like the kid, but signing him solves none of our problems…
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We won't solve half of our problems in the transfer market this summer. But Dibling is one of those signings that make sense by all metrics and will grow on to become a very good player. Just like you know that Yoro will be for us and Mainoo too. For 35m pounds it's a good future buy.
 
Hammondo said:
He would be a bench player then as he's not close to amad.
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I wouldn't say hes not close to Amad, he was playing in the poor Southamption side and looked good. Yes I wouldn't mind him as a squad option, which is why I said along with another signing.

E.g New Singing/Garnacho/Bruno for L10 and Amad/Dibling for R10/RWB
 
I like the idea of these signings, but when we haven’t got enough money to get the striker we want, or if we have but nobody else comes in with him, can we really afford 35m on a 19 year old squad player? 35m could mean the difference between Delap and Gyokeres
 
Cassidy said:
I wouldn't say hes not close to Amad, he was playing in the poor Southamption side and looked good. Yes I wouldn't mind him as a squad option, which is why I said along with another signing.

E.g New Singing/Garnacho/Bruno for L10 and Amad/Dibling for R10/RWB
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I think in that scenario Garnacho is gone.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ye that could be a useful tactic having them both interchange. But if we are in the market for a new RWB then Amad and Dibling as the 10s could be good as both are quite decent dribblers. But then would that mean Cunha came in as a 9? I see him more as a 10 but he’d be a more expensive one so maybe Diblings the alternative to Cunha if we can’t raise enough funds.
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I'm wary of Cunhas attitude issues, he's clearly a bit mental. Not always a bad thing but I hope our recruitment team look carefully at his mentality, I'm sure they will.

As you say Cunha's definitely a #10 more than a proper #9, so I'd see these two as alternatives for each other.

Given Cunha's priced at ~£60m, I'd personally prefer to see Dibling & Delap brought in for the same price if we can convince them of the move.

Two talented young homegrown players in positions we need to strengthen. Both have done at least decently in the PL playing in poor teams and seem to have good attitudes. If they don't work out they won't lose much value.

Seems sensible to me.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
I'm wary of Cunhas attitude issues, he's clearly a bit mental. Not always a bad thing but I hope our recruitment team look carefully at his mentality, I'm sure they will.

As you say Cunha's definitely a #10 more than a proper #9, so I'd see these two as alternatives for each other.

Given Cunha's priced at ~£60m, I'd personally prefer to see Dibling & Delap brought in for the same price if we can convince them of the move.

Two talented young homegrown players in positions we need to strengthen. Both have done at least decently in the PL playing in poor teams and seem to have good attitudes. If they don't work out they won't lose much value.

Seems sensible to me.
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Ye fair point. 2 players for the same price as 1 seems like a no brainer
 
My biggest worry with these signings is that we turn into Spurs or Brighton. Better run than we've been for sure but is it a winning approach? I'm afraid we will get stuck challenging for top 4 for the next decade which isn't really much better than finishing 2nd/3rd and then 8th or whatever. I just hope we have enough clout and know how to find the real game changing players too when they come on the market and then the combination of all of that and hopefully being able to hold onto our best players may see us eventually challenging again. To be fair the main challenge here is to finally get some value for money. We already spend enough to be a very serious CL club but we are playing catch up now to even the likes of Villa Forest Newcastle etc etc. We need to be smart and build something sustainable and I think we may be in for another rough few years
 
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