The same Harry Reid who spunked 22 million tax dollars on this bunch of UFO enthusiasts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program and learnt nothing new?
No evidence at all in that video. And the videos in the background have all been either explained or far more plausible causes proposed. For example the first one, the green flashing triangles is a known phenomenon that occurs with triangle shaped lens night vison cameras when not finding anything to focus on. Others do actually exists as they are detected more than visually but none are in any way convincingly unknown extreme high tech much less alien in origin. Could some be secret drone or submarine technology etc? Well of course it is possible but amazing that we have never got a good photo of one or a malfunctioning one being found. Stealth aircraft were in this category but they didn't remain secret for very long.
Rubio is a Tea Party nutter so is it surprising that he things the US government is hiding things?
Old man finds footage eye raising. Most if not all the pentagon footage is much more plausibly explained with non-alien phenomona
Another man with no scientific expertise who thinks because a pilot can't explain it there must be aliens. We know politicians are often idiots but this bloke is on intelligence committees FFS. Glad it isn't my tax dollar at stake.
Bill Nelson said he considered it highly unlikely that aliens were involved but that he couldn't rule it out. What he didn't say (forgetting how enthusiastic UFO enthusiast are) was that he also couldn't rule out ghosts, the Easter bunny or Santa Claus delivering presents.
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If you read the paper that I linked above, you'd see that the acceleration based on the radar data reports show maximum likelihood acceleration of 5000g . I used a lower bound of 1000g. I don't see a problem reaching the said speed with such capabilities.
For the 20th time, there is always the possibility some nation developed such tech on Earth.
Some other nation, whose capabilities and level of technology are reasonably well understood and thought to be well below that of the US, created a large drone that can accelerate 10 times faster than the fastest missile ever created? And then they fly it over US air space regularly?
Yeah, funny how the claim of what would be greatest discovery in human history makes people expect reasonable evidence.
Where did I say nation other than the US?
Let's be honest , no amount of evidence will be able to convince you.
Well that’s true yes, but the defence of no aliens seems so agressive.
Not the quality of evidence you're providing, that's for sure. I've seen equally robust evidence that the Earth is flat or that the Queen is a Lizard Person.
Then why didn't you just say that? "Some nation on Earth" implies it could be someone else. But okay, even if it would be the US, they're... spying on themselves? Why are they releasing footage of their own secret technology? And I don't think you realize just what it would take to get a large drone to accelerate at 1000g, in the atmosphere. *After just 5 seconds of acceleration it would be traveling at ~176 000 km/h. At that speed it's crossed the entirety of the continental US in just a minute and a half. And yet only a single US naval ship saw it?
I’m just not sure the reason ufo enthusiasts post these videos is because they want lots of explanations about bokeh effects and parallax.
I said some nation on earth - "why didn't you say US is a possibility " . Honestly, quite odd question that.
No, its orders of mag than what you think we are capable of. If you had never ever heard of electromagnetism , if a couple of people told you they had instantaneous conversation between US and Europe , transmitted over the air, you'd label them whackjobs.
Yeah it would. An alien ship, or bits of a device that operates according to no principles that we currently understand.
Okay, I'll rephrase. It's orders of magnutide beyond literally anything we're ever proven to be capable of. Take a look at the calculations I edited into my post. After only five seconds of acceleration - at the minimum of 1000g - they're crossing the US in a minute and a half. If they're accelerating at 5000g they'll get to that speed in a second. We've come full circle back to sci-fi, because even suggesting we might have the capability of that is the dictionary definition of an extraordinary claim.
It's not an odd question, because if you're saying any nation other than the US is doing it then we have the same problem of 1) someone is more powerful than the US and 2) they're constantly flying in US airspace, on top of 3) no clue of his has ever emerged from said country. Basically, if you mean the US, just say the US, it makes it easier for all of us to parse this discussion.
Well yes but ultimately technology operates within the areas of knowledge mapped by science. Current tech isn’t that much of a surprise to people who know the field. Some countries maybe a bit ahead of similarly capable countries in some areas, but it’s unlikely two evenly matched powers would be so far apart the lagging power was genuinely ignorant about the technology at hand.
You're constantly failing to address even the most basic of questions
And when you do get something very wrong (like the time dilation), you just ignore it and move on.What basic questions man? You are not arguing in good faith, you have your mind made and dismiss everything that has been shown to you as bad evidence, and share "debunkings" by youtube experts , while the actual experts are the eye witnesses.You're constantly failing to address even the most basic of questions
It's hard to understand how it's possible to be so gullible.
1) it's such a lazy explanation
It was mentioned multiple times these observations were made in other spectrums other than visible light, but of course it flew right over your head. Like an UAP.
If an UAP flew over my head at 2.1 million km/h, like you seem to think it's capable of, then I definitely wouldn't see it.
"The claim that eyewitness testimony is reliable and accurate is testable, and the research is clear that eyewitness identification is vulnerable to distortion without the witness’s awareness."
Who said they move at a constant speed all the time ? In fact, the data shows the objects are capable of changing acceleration and speed.
Not even close.
What if that's how fast jokes appear to fly over your head due to how slow your brain is.
Exactly. Whenever we have a clear image of something, it's something we recognize (airplane, weather balloon, insect etc...). It's only when the image is grainy that people lose their minds and jump right to alien craft instead of actually looking for the more likely explanation. Give me a clear image, with actual measurable distances then I will be interested. Hell, most of us skeptics are science nerds that would lose their minds with excitement if we had actual evidence of alien space crafts.
I too am highly sceptical. Mainly for two reasons.
