5:45 PM CET, Thursday 29 August 2013
Should be interesting!
Should be interesting!
UEFA Champions League 2013-14 draw
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What time is that BST?
Sorry to be a pain.
Sorry to be a pain.
4:45 PM BST
We will get a difficult group. Sorry to break it out lads.
Aren't these usually held on Fridays?
i hope we get a bit of luck - we're certainly due some
last couple of years we've had tough aways after European games
last couple of years we've had tough aways after European games
Usually after or before the Super Cup I thought.
But then I guess it was done in Monoco, and they have moved the Super Cup away from there.
Yeah, the group stage for us has been extremely difficult, all those great teams we had to play.
Pot 1
Barcelona
Bayern München
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Manchester United
Benfica
Arsenal
FC Porto
Pot 2
Atlético Madrid
AC Milan
Schalke 04
Shakhtar Donetsk
Olympique Marseille
CSKA Moscow
Paris Saint-Germain
Juventus
Pot 3
Zenit St. Petersburg
Manchester City
Ajax
Borussia Dortmund
FC Basel
Olympiakos Piraeus
Bayer Leverkusen
Galatasaray
Pot 4
Napoli
Anderlecht
FC København
Celtic/Shaktar Karadand
Viktoria Plzen/Maribor
Austria Vienna
Real Sociedad
Steaua Bucurestit
Christ there's some tough groups waiting to happen...
We've keep havibg to play the giants of Portugal! And, ermm, Swizerland! And Turkey!
Don't these things take like four hours to do?
The draw itself is very short, but they always feel the need to drag on the pre-draw ceremony bs.
We could get Juventus, Dortmund, and Napoli... 
EDIT: No we can't, two Italian teams...
EDIT: No we can't, two Italian teams...
And Otelui Galati or whatever was it's name. Seriously speaking, we have been the luckiest teams in the draw for the last few seasons.
Hmm, not sure about that. We could get only one of Juve/NapoliWe could get Juventus, Dortmund, andNapoli...
Worst: PSG, Dortmund, Napoli
Best: Schalke, Ajax, FC Copenhagen
Best: Schalke, Ajax, FC Copenhagen
City could get a shit draw again couldn't they?
Pot 2 and 3 are probably as strong as each other.
Be amazing if City got a shit draw again.
Be amazing if City got a shit draw again.
Hopefully we get either Shakhtar Donetsk or Marseille, Olympiakos and anyone but Napoli from the 4th pot
Wouldn't fancy our chances in the worst case scenario. A mixture of good and bad would be OK. Would be nice to have one really big game to get the juices flowing.
I wouldn't fancy Celtic or Bucharest from pot four.
Bayern/Madrid/Barcelona, PSG/AC/Juventus/Shaktar, City, Napoli - that'd be brilliant.
United, PSG/AC/Juventus/Shaktar, Dortmund, Napoli - not so brilliant.
However, would it help the group stages be a better learning curve for Moyes if it were to be tough? I reckon so.. even though it might be tough getting through and could make for some tough combination weeks in the Premier League.
I'm glad we're getting a number of our tough fixtures out the way before the CL starts.
United, PSG/AC/Juventus/Shaktar, Dortmund, Napoli - not so brilliant.
However, would it help the group stages be a better learning curve for Moyes if it were to be tough? I reckon so.. even though it might be tough getting through and could make for some tough combination weeks in the Premier League.
I'm glad we're getting a number of our tough fixtures out the way before the CL starts.
We could get Juventus, Dortmund, and Napoli...
EDIT: No we can't, two Italian teams...
A group of Juve, Dortmund and Sociedad would be mental
Neither Juventus or AC Milan can be in Napoli's group.
Bayern
Atletico
City
Napoli
Atletico
City
Napoli
Marseilles, Basel and Vienna please and thanks.
There's not really any possible group that I don't fully believe we couldn't get the required 10 points from.
For City, moving up to pot 3 is a huge thing taking those teams out of the equation, but still they'll have two tough teams from the top two pots in with them giving them only one 'easy' team. Would love to see them fecked out in last place this year.
For City, moving up to pot 3 is a huge thing taking those teams out of the equation, but still they'll have two tough teams from the top two pots in with them giving them only one 'easy' team. Would love to see them fecked out in last place this year.
City didn't move up to pot 3, they were in pot 2 last season.
I'd love it if we got a difficult group, like a proper European group. Something like Juve, Ajax and Celtic.
Schalke, Olympiakois, Plzen would be the dream group.
Every one of those games would be boring as shit.
After being put out in the group last year I'd take that as long as it meant we go through.
We went out in the 2nd round. I'm sick of all the no-mark games we end up playing. The Champions League used to feel special, even when we'd play the likes of Brondby, now the group stages feel like 3rd/4th round League Cup games.
Don't worry I hope United get PSG, Dortmund and Napoli.
He's a Chelsea fan.
Doesn't matter what the actual draw is, people will complain about Chelsea and Arsenal getting an easy ride while we have a 'tricky group' anyway.
Really? How did they manage to move up to pot 2 so quickly being a relatively new team to European football.
There is this rule of pairing and segregating teams from same country to different matchdays. England having 4 countries will have 2 in one slot (group A-D) and 2 in other (E-H). Are these pairings pre-decided for ex. United-Chelsea in one and Arsenal-City in other or is it random and decided during draw?
I think it is random. For ex. For pot 1 draw, If United come out of draw first for England teams, they will go into A-D. If Chelsea comes out 2nd, they will go into E-H. Then Arsenal will go in A-D again, so when City come out in draw for pot 3 teams, they will go into E-H(in a group not containing Chelsea of course). Bayern will be in that segment where there is only 1 English team as Real and Barca will be kept in separate segments and so will Porto-Benfica. So one segment will have 2 English teams, 1 Spanish and 1 Portuguese while other will have 1 English, 1 Spanish, 1 German and 1 Portuguese. This also means, City have 1/3 chance of being in Bayern's group before pot 3 teams are being picked.
I think it is random. For ex. For pot 1 draw, If United come out of draw first for England teams, they will go into A-D. If Chelsea comes out 2nd, they will go into E-H. Then Arsenal will go in A-D again, so when City come out in draw for pot 3 teams, they will go into E-H(in a group not containing Chelsea of course). Bayern will be in that segment where there is only 1 English team as Real and Barca will be kept in separate segments and so will Porto-Benfica. So one segment will have 2 English teams, 1 Spanish and 1 Portuguese while other will have 1 English, 1 Spanish, 1 German and 1 Portuguese. This also means, City have 1/3 chance of being in Bayern's group before pot 3 teams are being picked.