Lovely stuff, about time.
I'd say scrap extra time as well. If it's still a draw after 180 minutes, go straight to penalties.
I'd say scrap extra time as well. If it's still a draw after 180 minutes, go straight to penalties.
Uefa to scrap away goals rule
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Great. The rule was simply idiotic.
I liked the away rule, don't like this decision.
This is bullshit. More encouragement for ass clowns like Emery and Mourinho to play with 11 behind the ball.
This encourages more boring games to me
So in the 30 minutes ET the home team will have home advantage but is that advantage neglible?
The fallout of the ESL begins, UEFA now scrambling to "modernise" the game while taking away the traditions that have upheld the game for decades and were adamant the ESL would take away. Not an advocation for the ESL by any means, merely proof big decisions will only ever be made when there's money riding on it. They know VAR ruins the game but because the margins are so fine and there's so much money involved, they simply can't leave it down to human reasoning anymore.
I think that's the motive for Uefa, yes, more TV time, more advertising revenue which will filter through to them.
As for the fans, I can only think most of those that support the idea can't remember what a difference away goals made when it was introduced, and don't want to listen to those that do.
I think it goes both ways really, we've often seen how one away goal can kill a 2nd leg completely.
When was it introduced? I'm not sure I was old enough or even born to remember the CL without away goals.
Good. It froze the home teams a little too much. Sir Alex wasnt a fan so neither am I.
Scoring that first away goal is just too powerful.
Scoring that first away goal is just too powerful.
And less upsets
Brilliant! Terrible rule.
How it should have always been.
The first was apparently the cup winners cup in 65, but I think it must have taken a while for it to be in the other competitions as well, as I remember it being discussed more (very positively) as a teenager, so later 60s I would think.
They need the big teams to win for the money. More and more greed and on it goes. So much for romance of the cups
More teams will play defensive trying to get to extra time and penalties.
No, I wouldn't say so.
What difference did it make?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...l-off-illogical-and-arbitrary-away-goals-rule
This'll result in duller games, brilliant, just what football needed. Certain you'll see less goals overall now too.
It’s a bad idea. The rule makes European ties a lot more interesting.
Go away old man.
Not sure this is a good idea
Away goals are kind of pointless these days. They were introduced at a time when it was difficult and time consuming to travel abroad and teams had a genuine physical disadvantage playing away from home. These days, when players travel first class, take their own chefs, and stay in 5 star hotels, is there really any difference between playing in London, Paris or Madrid?
But... some part of me will be a little bit sad. Yes away goals are illogical and yes it ruined some games. But there were times when the away goals rule introduced a fascinating knife edge into games. That situation of chasing a goal, but knowing that conceding would essentially mean game over, made for some fascinating tactical situations. And as a fan, that feeling of scoring an away goal - a sort of double goal - was incredibly sweet.
But... some part of me will be a little bit sad. Yes away goals are illogical and yes it ruined some games. But there were times when the away goals rule introduced a fascinating knife edge into games. That situation of chasing a goal, but knowing that conceding would essentially mean game over, made for some fascinating tactical situations. And as a fan, that feeling of scoring an away goal - a sort of double goal - was incredibly sweet.
I'd love to know why people think this is a good idea, will result in better games, and its not based in bitterness about past away goal moments that didn't go our way.
It will result in fairer games, that's the point. A team going through after a couple of draws is simply wrong - they should at least win a penalty shootout.
From the entertainment aspect: home teams will be less paralysed by fear of conceding the magical away goal. It's become accepted wisdom these days (though the actual stats don't really support it actually) that a 0-0 home draw in a first leg is a good result. That's fecked up.
Its only for one season no? Give it a chance and then judge.
First major rule change in ages that I actually believe will improve football.
We'll just have to see if this results in more teams going for draws extra time and pens, they can always revert back. There's pros and cons, I feel away goals are good way to wrap up a game in 90mins and the CL drama is more intense. With players playing too much, an increase in CL games coming with the potential of more extra time it could result in a lot more boring games but I'm intrigued to see if that's actually the case.
Finally a good bit of common sense in rule changes.
Makes absolutely no sense to have away goals counting more in this day and age.
Makes absolutely no sense to have away goals counting more in this day and age.
This is a terrible decision that will rob football of some truly iconic moments. I think back to how I felt when I saw Rashford's last minute penalty hit the net against PSG. Moments like that will just lead to extra time now, probably penalties.
There's no perfect system to decide ties in football. But away goals have contributed some magic moments. Who can forget Spurs vs City ending 4-4 with Spurs going through in the Champions League on away goals? When you're on the wrong end of it, as we have been, it hurts like hell. But it sure as s-t makes the stakes higher and creates more drama.
All I can see coming from this decision are more penalty shoot outs.
There's no perfect system to decide ties in football. But away goals have contributed some magic moments. Who can forget Spurs vs City ending 4-4 with Spurs going through in the Champions League on away goals? When you're on the wrong end of it, as we have been, it hurts like hell. But it sure as s-t makes the stakes higher and creates more drama.
All I can see coming from this decision are more penalty shoot outs.
I don't see why people think it will lead to duller games. if anything, it will make the first legs far less dull. Does anyone find FA cup games dull because they don't have an away goals rule?
Good, I think losing or winning a tie when you scored the exact same amount of goals as the opposition is completely and utterly idiotic.
No need to complicate the discussion. It gave away team an advantage in return of playing with an attacking mindset and risk conceding in doing so.
Scraping the rule takes that away and will make the games linear emotionally. We saw yesterday what exiting knockout scenarios does to football.
Scraping the rule takes that away and will make the games linear emotionally. We saw yesterday what exiting knockout scenarios does to football.
I still remember how we dominated Bayern at Old Trafford and seemed to be crusing to the next round, only for a single goal (and red card) to completely flip the tie on it's head. Suddenly we were facing the exit door and it was Bayern looking to progress. I still feel sick thinking about it all these years later.
It's then that I realised that the away goals rule was wrong and unfair. I'm glad it's gone.
It's then that I realised that the away goals rule was wrong and unfair. I'm glad it's gone.
It's manufactured drama. There are no away goals in other competions yet we still see plenty of dramatic and magical moments.
There are so many things about that game that are unfair. Away goals the least of them.
Had Bayern not been allowed to kick Rooney out of the game without punishment, had Rafael been judged less harshly by a biased referee, the list goes on.
Away goals did hurt as that night, as they've hurt us many a time in Europe. Leverkussen 2002 stands out to me....
But.
None of the alternatives seem preferable. We're just going to end up with longer games and more penalty shoot outs.
More drama and entertainment!
When their team gets drawn a couple of times to play the second leg away the same whingers that whinge about everything will soon be whinging about how unfair it is.
Odd comparison. Why would one legged ties have an away goals rule? Now that would be daft.
You can guess the first team to go out under the new rule, after having gone out the last two times with the old rule?? 