Do you want results or do you want us to play happy families?
Er....yes. Yes they are. Look around.
You think all the above managers didn't want more players, such as Moyes? The problem they had was Ed...and we still have the same problem! This isn't exclusive to our club, look at what is happening at Spurs at the moment!
If we give Ole 2 years and 400 million and we are 6th in the league then I would concede that he is in Jose territory.
Moyes did want more players and it was well documented we tried for Baines. But his dithering on the likes of Strootman, Herrera, Thiago was costly if reports are to be believed. Not sure how Woodward is culpable for Moyes' dithering/indecision.
But in all the years Ed has been in charge, where would you say we've got our targets in early? He's always dragged his feet...no matter who the manager.
That highly rated? Obviously means we're out of the running.
As for the Southampton-game, that was a very special game where Keane was sent off after 20 minutes - and still we were only 3-2 down when 9 minutes left to play.
Getting players in early would've been great and Woodward got quite a few in early. But some big money transfers were complicated hence taking longer than expected to complete.
That’s Manchester United not Only Ed. We’re still waiting for Benzema, Robben and Ronaldinho to arrive. Not to list a numerous of other targets. Remember the Sneijder saga. That wasn’t Ed’s reign. I don’t rate our board but I wish people would stop lying.
Yeah, but neither of them had all of these results in quick succession. Whenever they did, they bounced back. Only winners know how to bounce back. Poch doesn’t know how to bounce back because he’s not a winner.
People bring up Klopp in his final season as an example, yet the same people fail to mention that he lost Lewandowski and Goetze to Bayern and Reus and Gundogan to injuries.
He should be fired by Spurs. Reality check. Not every manager is going to last 20 plus years like Fergie.
I totally agree. Managers have made some horrendous decisions and should take blame. But my issue with Ed is, he's seen this. He's not thought to modernise the structure and get in line with the way football has moved. Instead, we are trying this old model of the manager choosing his players and then also coaching them. Like many have already said, Fergie was in essence a DoF. He very rarely coached. He was a brilliant man manager. Even his tactics he pretty much left to his 2nd in charge, especially Carlos.
Lying about what?
Benzema, Robben and Ronaldinho all went to their respective clubs early enough and we either brought other targeted players in, such as CR7, or we never brought anyone in. Not exactly unheard of. Especially at that time when we were a winning team and we didn't need to bring in raft of players.
If we didn’t play sporting in that friendly we would have been happy to watch Ronaldo for another 12 months like most clubs in Europe. So we would have not got Ronaldinho and brought no one. We lost out on Eden Hazard and then Lucus and we brought in Who Obertan? So once again not doing our job. Shall we continue this debate?
I'm in favour of us appointing a DoF and believe it would help us in the long run. But having said that, I also believe our current way of doing things could work aswell if a Manager with the potential of Nagelsmann or Rose is given the reigns. I'm also led to believe that our recruitment strategy is in the process of shifting to a committe style approach which will be interesting.
Yes, please let's debate. Under Fergie, after 92, what was the longest period we went without a title?
You asked for the debate and now we're having one, so you'll know where I'm going with this...in those 3 years, where did we finish in the league?
Of course he is a good manager, That season at Liverpool when they came close with Sterling, Suarez and Sturiddge was impressive. Ok Celtic is not such a difficult job but you can see all his teams play the same style, identity and you can clearly see they have been coached and they are playing for their manager
It is interesting to compare the fortunes of Leicester and Utd in the last 10 months. Both new managers. One has imposed his quality on a team the other has shown he isn’t up to the job.
He is certainly getting the best out of his players now.
Not outside the top 3
So we had a team there or there abouts. Only needed a few additions and not wholesale changes like the squads under Ed's time.
You built me up for this
. We finished 2nd the previous year when Ole took over... He decided to get rid of everybody!He’s my first choice as well,but Spurs will not sack him.Even if Spurs finish 10th this season(unlikely) they will still stick with Pochettino.Our only hope is if Pochettino does with Klopp did to Dortmund 4 seasons ago....If Pochettino feels that he can’t acheive more at Spurs and if he decides to walk away,then we may be in with a shout....
I didn't set you up mate, you wanted a debate. Not my fault I've proven myself correct!You built me up for this
Spurs will probably not sack him, as they'll probably know we're after him and will want compensation! But will be interesting to see what Spurs will do?!
Jose’s first year.
Yea.
I don't really know, I'm tempted to say Pochettino because he is still relatively young and from a club stature United would a step up, we have worse than Tottenham but United is still the richer and bigger club which means that it would be a new challenge for him. When for Allegri United is just an other big historical club after Milan and Juventus. Neither are particularly attacking, so I don't really take style into account and they have both shown good man management skills.
Guess I'm looking for answers as I really don't know myself. Tempted by Poch whereas Allegri has his teams playing a type of football I'd rather we don't. Solskjær is surely on the brink regardless.
