My thinking too.
If they now go on and do the other treble it will always be known as the Micky Moise treble 
As that's what we call the league cup when fans go out of it.United's treble winners remain the best in Prem history
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If they now go on and do the other treble it will always be known as the Micky Moise treble As that's what we call the league cup when fans go out of it.Even if City eventually win the treble, the biggest achievement from it was the fact a large part of the team were from United’s youth team. That’s something City will never be able to achieve no matter how many billions they pump into the squad.
I know it’s blasphemy but I think the 07/08 team was better overall. The Keane/Scholes midfield is untouchable, as is prime Giggsy but in 2007 we had two of the top 10 center backs and arguably the most terrifying front three in PL history. The most remarkable thing about both teams is it was the first time the attackers played together and they were completely in sync.
No they haven't, not with such consistency throughout the last 4 months of competition. Zidane, Inzaghi, Rivaldo, Figo, Ronaldo, Matthaus, Khan, Bergkamp, Viera, Deschamps, Davids, Owen,the cream of the crop, iconic names. Even a young Xavi was in the Barcelona team.
In the FA cup, we had to go through Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal to get to the final against Newcastle.
No other team has had such a run of games.
I mean juve did have zidane, deschamps, conte,inzaghi and davids, hardly cloggers.
I'd argue that no team has faced as hard a run to the cl final since.
Can you imagine drawing a group with barca and bayern in? And then getting through it only to face inter then juve? Even now when the Italian league isnt as strong that would be brutal, in 99 the Italian league was the best in the world and had the worlds best players playing in it. And juve were largely regarded as the best side in europe.
Compare city's run this season to the semis they havent faced anyone near to the quality of 99 barca/bayern/juve/inter.
Not even close.
I think the 2008 team was better as well. Nine years after the Treble Fergie was also tactically a better manager too. We were a more refined and tactically asute team.
The 1999 team however gave us the best season in the history of the club and the history of English football. That team was swashbuckling as feck. A lot of teams were overwhelmed by our relentless attacking play…It often left us exposed at the back but made an all more exciting ride. I’ll never forget that season. I was on a high for the rest of that year!
Hopefully we and especially younger fans can experience such greatness again, you’ll be delirious.
08 was better. We had arguably one of the greatest players of all time. That alone does it.
Yep came here to say the same.
It's not just the number of trophies, it's also how they're won.
Except for the random results at the beginning of the season this has been a pretty boring year.
Covid football can get in the bin.
But City and the mainly anti United media would have seen it as the greatest event in the history of world football.
I have a relation that supports the Arse and he says purely on premiership alone the invincibles were the best prem team. I think the 99 treble team obviously. Pity we couldn't have had at least one season as the invincibles. I remember Keane saying that in the summer of 99 that the only targets left were winning the quadruple and going a season without losing . At that time I really thought we could do it.
Well said, I get really sick of hearing about how its so much harder today, how the opposition is tougher, standards higher etc. We played and beat top, top teams in every competition, we had no easy games, no "gimmes" Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Leeds were the pick of our PL opposition but every team was hard and difficult to play against. Same in the CL and FA Cup, nobody gave us anything.
delighted with that result yesterday
even if they had they aren't in the same class as us I think.
Look at the season holistically. Look at those Inter, Juve and Bayern teams. Look at our FA cup run, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. That was a great Arsenal side that pushed us all the way. And half our team made up of academy graduates.
awesome
even if they had they aren't in the same class as us I think.
Look at the season holistically. Look at those Inter, Juve and Bayern teams. Look at our FA cup run, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. That was a great Arsenal side that pushed us all the way. And half our team made up of academy graduates.
awesome
I think that team was better too.
I don't think it's fair to judge 99 with 08 based on which teams they played
Rooney, Tevez and Cristiano as the front tree is just insane. Not to mention Vidic, Ferdinand, VDS, Evra.. the list goes on. That team would bend over the recent City and Liverpool teams any day of the week, all week
Rooney, Tevez and Cristiano as the front tree is just insane. Not to mention Vidic, Ferdinand, VDS, Evra.. the list goes on. That team would bend over the recent City and Liverpool teams any day of the week, all week
Even to this day, God knows how we never scored and won that game.
I would have loved a 2nd treble in 2008, but even if we had won it for me it wouldn’t have beaten the 99 treble.
The opposition we faced in 99 in CL and FA Cup as well as the circumstances were tougher than in 2008.
If someone told you in the summer of 98 that in the CL we would be in a group with Bayern and Barça and in the knock out games we would play Inter and Juve with the 2nd leg away against both teams, plus final against Bayern without Keane and Scholes, and in the FA Cup we would be facing Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, you would have said “better luck next year”.
If in the summer of 2007 someone told you our opponents in CL and FA Cup for the coming season and that in the CL we would be playing all knock out stage 2nd leg games at home, you would have said “not easy, but hey, name on the trophies”.
The opposition we faced in 99 in CL and FA Cup as well as the circumstances were tougher than in 2008.
If someone told you in the summer of 98 that in the CL we would be in a group with Bayern and Barça and in the knock out games we would play Inter and Juve with the 2nd leg away against both teams, plus final against Bayern without Keane and Scholes, and in the FA Cup we would be facing Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, you would have said “better luck next year”.
If in the summer of 2007 someone told you our opponents in CL and FA Cup for the coming season and that in the CL we would be playing all knock out stage 2nd leg games at home, you would have said “not easy, but hey, name on the trophies”.
I was a bit too young at the time but how on Earth did we end up in a group with both Bayern & Barca? Was seeding not a thing back then when it came to draws and it was a case of all the teams in the one pot?
It’s a ridiculous achievement. Even if City did do the quad this year, all but one of their players was bought. We won the treble & half of our squad were academy graduates. Simply incredible & will never be replicated.
It’s been 13 years & I still get pissed off thinking about that Portsmouth game.
The Celtic (Lisbon Lions) side that won the 1967 European Cup with all players from the country the club was based will DEFINITELY never be replicated. More incredibly, the squad with the exception of one player, were all born within a 10-mile radius of Celtic Park. The exception was Bobby Lennox who was born in Saltcoats, Ayrshire a mere 30 miles from the city.
Tbh I have no idea, however we were probably in pot 2 or something as we didn’t win our league in 98. Plus there were less groups and even then only the group winners plus the two best placed 2nd teams in the groups advanced to knock out stage.
I think taking everything into account (pl years only):
In this order:
1999 United team
2004 invincibles
2008 United
2020 Liverpool
2009 United (they came close to five trophies)
2015 Leicester
1998 Arsenal double
Then a separate category for oil-fuelled plastic teams, but that’s pretty irrelevant so no point putting it in any order
In this order:
1999 United team
2004 invincibles
2008 United
2020 Liverpool
2009 United (they came close to five trophies)
2015 Leicester
1998 Arsenal double
Then a separate category for oil-fuelled plastic teams, but that’s pretty irrelevant so no point putting it in any order
Yeah I watched all the season reviews from the SAF era during lockdown last year and that game is probably the most annoying to look back on. Denied a clear penalty.
Amazing achievement. Although football was different back then. We had a huge academy graduate presence in our 99 team when our rivals were importing their best players from abroad. Not taking away from Celtic, but I honestly think given the time we did it our treble was more impressive.
In 1968, nine of the 12-man squad came through our youth system. Tony Dunne arrived as an 18 year-old and played in our juniors for a spell so only Stepney and Crerand were imports from other clubs.
The 99 team had it's ups and downs. They were not that dominant all the time but they managed to nick every single competition. They won the PL by a point, came back from a 0 2 in Turin and beat Arsenal and Liverpool in the most dramatic fashion in the cup. But I guess that is what makes football such a magical game and why we remember that team so fondly. IMO not the strongest United team but still my favorite
That's actually an insane stat.
If we're hypothetically talking about league only, you'd have to put Arsenal top, imo.
If we're taking the individual teams season as a whole into consideration, I'd put our 07/08 team 2nd ahead of Arsenal.
Feck me we might never win the champions league again or do a treble again. Feck the super league.
I’m thinking the whole season (all trophies). Yeah it’s close but I guess being unbeaten is something we / nobody else has done
Even if City had won the quadruple it'd be a meaningless financially doped irrelevance.
But...it's good they can't match us this year.
But...it's good they can't match us this year.
Steve McClaren.
City will never match the treble of 99.
The 'Invincibles' (who lost more games overall than a number of other PL teams have, and finished the undefeated league season with quite a few less points than others have done since) aren't even in the top 5 IMO.
Our two CL winning teams are the top dogs, with the next three spots being fought over by Chelsea in the first couple of years of Mourinho's reign and the recent City and Liverpool teams.
I couldn't help but quietly celebrate when City's Quadruple/Treble was off for another year. I was gutted when Leicester equalled the 9-0 record, but at least we have two of those now. These things matter.
I'd put Jose's first Chelsea team and the recent Liverpool and City teams above the Invincibles as they all won the biggest trophies in back to back seasons (either retaining the title or winning a champions league and then winning the league) . That Chelsea team was pretty close to winning the quadruple in 06/07 too if i remember correctly.
Best teams were the 99 United side and the 08 team.
Best teams were the 99 United side and the 08 team.
Even as remarkable was Malmö a part time squad reaching the final in 79/80. You could never see that happening again.
99 Treble was even more incredible when you see the true calibre of teams we faced
Just look at that CL run inc. that group of death
Just look at that CL run inc. that group of death
Clutching at straws. Nobody apart from us would care and everyone has already forgotten that City are mercenary c***. So all hopes on PSG to stop city from winning the treble imo.