It’s so bizarre seeing the ‘land of the free’ and ‘home of the brave’ cannibalise itself over students protesting. How is this any different to an authoritarian government’s handling of protests? The amount of shite decrepit Biden has said about Putin and he’s no better (re protesting).
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Is it really that different from the Vietnam war or civil rights protests?
They've been here before and historically, the protestors seem to win.
Protestors always seem to lose in the short term by way of getting arrested, fined, or beaten up, and more recently losing their jobs and the like. Some such as those you listed may be eventually vindicated, but there are also recent examples of protests that haven't really amounted to much in terms of tangible change - thinking of everything ranging from occupy wall street to the string of protests from Trayvon Martin through George Floyd.
They do lose in the short term for sure.
I'd be inclined to argue that the George Floyd protests resulted in positive change, though.
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He and his militarized police have used very similar rhetoric and tactics that those oppressive regimes regularly use.Literally the 4 first links when I google "biden protests iran".
Did I miss federal police officers doing stuff at protests? Seen loads of state and local police but I am not aware of federal militarized police being used.
These sneaky antisemites have now infiltrated Jewish Studies programs.
Who exactly are the President's militarised police?
There are none. These are local cops coming in by request of the University administration who want the tent cities removed from their campus. The students can still protest off campus and elsewhere.
It's not about reality, it's about narrative. What these people want to see. Which bizarrely is equivalence between literally not deploying federal forces and saying peaceful protests are good, and leaders who regularly execute dissidents.
Yes, quite. But Genocide Joe is cracking skulls!!!
On that we can definitely agree.
Palestinians are prone to violence and they hate our children more than they love their children. feckin hell...
even though he has his youtube videos and "UN watch" ready to go, he didn't recognise a very famous quote from golda meir! thought that was funny...
This offsets Marge Green teaming up with the squad in opposition to the anti-semitism bill.
Since they were voted down, I'll say this while it's still legal:
Israel is a racist endeavour
I think Marge genuinely opposed it because it would prevent extreme right wingers from saying anti-semitic things. Protecting her base and all.Since they were voted down, I'll say this while it's still legal:
Israel is a racist endeavour
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Ya she explicitly said it is because she wants to blame Jews for killing Christ.
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To add, it was more than the Squad this time, about 70 Dems and 40 GOP. Nowhere near enough for a blatant restriction on the 1st amendment. We'll have the wonderful irony of American college professors being allowed to say - and publish in popular newspapers! - that the US is foundationally racist, but saying the same about Israel will get them fired.
She's probably more concerned her Jewish space lasers comment would come into question.
Her speech - like all speech - is still 1st amendment protected.
This bill targets universities - professors calling Israel an apartheid state, a university having a SJP/JVP chapter, student protestors etc. - since they receive DoE federal funding, that will be stopped under the terms of this bill. Universities will fire those professors, ban those chapters, expel those students, etc so that they are safe for Jewish students.
With the existing ideological tilt of the mainstream media and politicians, and social media companies outside Twitter (and with TikTok set to go) collaborating in "safety"-based censorship, it will effectively drive any fundamental criticism of Israel (beyond "Netanyahu isn't making good decisions") out of all discourse.
I'll be interested in the Right's long-term response to codifying the Israel exception into federal law in the name of anti-semitism, while "US is racist" is still permitted in mainstream circles. It could get ugly in a couple of different ways.
FBI could be construed that way I guess
Unless there's mass violence related to things happening on federal property, its the local cops like NYPD/LAPD etc. that get called by the schools to remove tent encampments on school property.
That's not strictly true, most speech is protected but not absolutely everything
I may be mistaken, but LEO can call for assistance from the FBI can they not?
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The deep state was just Israel all along.
Tell me I just watched a Voight video? The acting seemed the same.
When do they send homelander in?
Who is this guy? is part of the American government?
Tom Cotton, Republican senator.
Outside of stupid stuff he has said and done, I mostly remember him from when he made his first run as a Senator of Arkansas. I was attending business in Memphis, which is still a distance from the border between Tennessee and Arkansas, and yet his campaign ads on the radio reached all the way to Memphis.
Well the senate is the legislative branch of the government, so practically yes, he is part of the government.
Thanks. Yes, that what I thought he was. A GOP member of one of the government branches.
is so dystopian that someone with certain degree of government representation can speak in those terms, whichever ideology.
He's a part of the Republican minority in the US Senate, which generally means he has no power to do anything other than talk big at pressers.
The filibuster says hello.
A filibuster wouldn’t pass what he’s proposing, which makes it all little more than hot air.
Compared to opposition parties in the UK, the Senate minority wield serious power and influence.