Value of our players/squad in an open market?

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24. Andre Onana (G) £25m
1. Altay Bayindir (G) £0.5m
22. Tom Heaton (G) £0m


6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) £40m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) £35m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) £30m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) £20m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) £15m
2. Victor Lindelof (CD) £12m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) £10m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) £8m
53. Willy Kambwala (D) £2m
35. Jonny Evans (D) £0m


8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) £50m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) £35m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) £25m
7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) £20m
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) £10m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) £5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) £5m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) £3m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) £2m


10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) £50m
17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) £40m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) £35m
21. Antony (RWF) £20m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) £15m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) £10m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) £0m
From talks i've had with football fans who exist outside the United bubble, your estimation - give or take a few millions - pretty much sums up what they believe.
 

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From talks i've had with football fans who exist outside the United bubble, your estimation - give or take a few millions - pretty much sums up what they believe.
Yeah I'm very confident on those numbers.

If Bruno or Rashford had seasons like their best seasons again their values would jump but right now there's no way PSG or even a Saudi club would go higher than 50-60m.

Mount and Shaw would be worth more if they had better fitness records. Garnacho and Mainoo's values will hopefully keep going up but right now it'd be £30-40m offers.
 

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Which club has ever offered 100m pounds for an 18 years old player?

Mainoo is good and priceless but we do not really know how good he will really become. No one will go close to 100m or so for a central midfielder with 5-10 senior matches.
I mean we aren't talking about what players have been offered, but 100m is what Dortmund quoted for Bellingham while he was there as a teenager.

Players with the profile of Mainoo at his age/the size of the club he's at basically don't exist. It's not about "how good he will become" it's about what his actual market value is right now. Anyone who wanted to buy Mainoo and offered us less than probably 80m at minimum would be laughed out of the room.
 

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Maunoo id say 80m because his hype right now is growing like crazy and if Madrid spent 100m on Tchouameni based on 1 season, Mainoo isn't quite there but I think he's shown he's an elite youngster and he'd get above 60m if it was actually a bidding war.
Tchouameni was a starter at Monaco for 2 full seasons. Very different situation to Mainoo.
 

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Caicedo went for 120m after 18 months of good performances, and Mainoo is 5 years younger, English, and a level above technically. He's basically priceless on the open market for the position he plays and his age.
The problem with this logic is that Caicedo does not represent the average price for a player of this type in the market; he is an exception.

You could say, for example, that since PSG paid 180m for teen Mbappe, and 222m for Neymar, that's how much top talent goes for now. But it isn't true, no one's paid that kind of money since.

High prices in football have more to do with a club deciding someone is "their man" and paying whatever they can for them, rather than the actual going rate for this type of player. United are a perfect example of that since they've overpaid for many many players.
 
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Apologies if some of these seem way out, not as familiar as a united fan but will also try apply some non Utd eyes across it, here goes

1. Altay Bayindir (G) (no idea)
22. Tom Heaton (G) (free)
24. Andre Onana (G) (18m)

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) (12m)
5. Harry Maguire (CD) (20m)
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) (38m)
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) (5m)
19. Raphael Varane (CD) (15m)
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) (10m)
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) (24m)
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) (18m)
35. Jonny Evans (D) (free)
53. Willy Kambwala (D) (no idea)

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) (37m)
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) (42m)
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) (10m)
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) (11m)
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) (16m)
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) (10m)
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) (28m)
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) (25m)
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) (no idea)

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) (43m)
21. Antony (RWF) (17m)
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) (39m)
9. Anthony Martial (CF) (11m)
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) (35m)
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) (12m)
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) (20m)
 

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The problem with this logic is that Caicedo does not represent the average price for a player of this type in the market; he is an exception.

You could say, for example, that since PSG paid 180m for teen Mbappe, and 222m for Neymar, that's how much top talent goes for now. But it isn't true, no one's paid that kind of money since.

High prices in football have more to do with a club deciding someone is "their man" and paying whatever they can for them, rather than the actual going rate for this type of player. United are a perfect example of that since they've overpaid for many many players.
Except everyone agreed Caicedo is simply a “good player” and not some world beater, so it’s not even like he’s an exception. We live in a world where Antony, a completely average Dutch league winger, was sold for 90m. Enzo Fernandez set the tempo well at Benfica and was then sold for 100m+. Declan Rice was quoted for YEARS as a 100m player when he’s been a good PL DM but is hardly some technical marvel. Jack Grealish is a 100m winger and he’s hardly gotten 10+ G/A per season at City.


These prices are what they are, it’s less a commentary on a specific player than it is the market as a whole but this isn’t the Ronaldo Madrid era where these insane prices are only quoted for truly “best in the world” type players.

Which brings me back to my original point, if Mainoo was playing at the base of the midfield for Barca/Madrid/Bayern/City etc and playing how he is for us currently they’d tell you to go feck yourself if you offered anything under 80m MINIMUM
 

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I think the issue with evaluating Mainoo (not his abilities, but the fee he would hypothetically go for) is that he barely has any games under his belt.

If he keeps up these performances for a year, then in 12 months time a 19 year old Mainoo with a whole season's worth of good performances behind him will definitely cost at least 100 million.
 

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Except everyone agreed Caicedo is simply a “good player” and not some world beater, so it’s not even like he’s an exception. We live in a world where Antony, a completely average Dutch league winger, was sold for 90m. Enzo Fernandez set the tempo well at Benfica and was then sold for 100m+. Declan Rice was quoted for YEARS as a 100m player when he’s been a good PL DM but is hardly some technical marvel. Jack Grealish is a 100m winger and he’s hardly gotten 10+ G/A per season at City.


These prices are what they are, it’s less a commentary on a specific player than it is the market as a whole but this isn’t the Ronaldo Madrid era where these insane prices are only quoted for truly “best in the world” type players.

Which brings me back to my original point, if Mainoo was playing at the base of the midfield for Barca/Madrid/Bayern/City etc and playing how he is for us currently they’d tell you to go feck yourself if you offered anything under 80m MINIMUM
If Mainoo was at Barca and they were offered £80m for him, they would bite your hands off. He’s proven nothing yet, other than that he is a competent midfielder who is comfortable on the ball. Something Barcelona are not in a short supply of. In fact, no top sides are.

I think you’re overrating Mainoo because he’s been a breath of fresh air in your engine room. But that likely say less about him and more about your other midfield options.

I think it’s an English problem. We get giddy every time we produce a player who can put his foot on the ball in the middle of the park. Arsenal fans were similarly chuffed with Wilshere when he broke through. When the English press asked Guardiola his opinion of Wilshere he replied “we have many players in the second team like him”. He straight up said Barcelona B is full of Jack Wilshere type players. And he was right.
 

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If Mainoo was at Barca and they were offered £80m for him, they would bite your hands off. He’s proven nothing yet, other than that he is a competent midfielder who is comfortable on the ball. Something Barcelona are not in a short supply of. In fact, no top sides are.

I think you’re overrating Mainoo because he’s been a breath of fresh air in your engine room. But that likely say less about him and more about your other midfield options.

I think it’s an English problem. We get giddy every time we produce a player who can put his foot on the ball in the middle of the park. Arsenal fans were similarly chuffed with Wilshere when he broke through. When the English press asked Guardiola his opinion of Wilshere he replied “we have many players in the second team like him”. He straight up said Barcelona B is full of Jack Wilshere type players. And he was right.
I think a fundamental point missing from your assessment of Mainoo is he’s shown he is comfortable and capable of being a single pivot in a dreadful midfield playing in a role so barren, you’d have to ask how many other midfielders in the league could come into our shambolic set up and do the same or better. This isn’t Wilshere, who played in a comprehensively superior midfield and as an #8 with less burden of responsibility on his shoulders. DM/DLP is widely acknowledged as one of the hardest roles on the pitch and not one you see kids enter the fray as teenagers and excel at against season pros, and to reiterate once more, in dire conditions; if you are not watching our games, you have no clue how bad we are and have been in midfield and how much of a burden and responsibility we have placed on a kid’s underdeveloped shoulders. This simply isn’t the run of the mill; the conditions are absolutely abnormal, which is where so much more praise is being reserved for him.

Young prodigies come along and even shine in that role, but you should take a moment and think how many rose to such prominence at 18 and with so few professIonal games under their belt. Once you’ve done that, ask yourself how many of those have done it at a club of the pressure and standing of a Manchester United. Context is everything. The odds on him going to the Euros aren’t even that long, why is that? No matter what the fans think, why haven’t the bookmakers offered odds you can make a huge turnaround on if your ‘speculative’ punt turns out to be true?

Another factor with valuing young prodigies is that they are ‘unsellable’ and giant clubs simply scoff and make it entirely impossible to buy their jewels in the crown. Pedri, Kimmich, Busquets and so on and so forth were assuredly not viable targets for other clubs, hence bids did not come in for them. Mainoo is lining up to be in that bracket and United’s obstacle, unlike those aforementioned players’ clubs, is the player himself might move on to pastures new if not competing for leagues and CL’s, at which point the unsaleable will potentially have a price on his head.
 

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Except everyone agreed Caicedo is simply a “good player” and not some world beater, so it’s not even like he’s an exception. We live in a world where Antony, a completely average Dutch league winger, was sold for 90m. Enzo Fernandez set the tempo well at Benfica and was then sold for 100m+.
I think that would be another example of the flaw in the logic. The fact that Antony went for 95m does not mean that anyone who has an average winger in their squad can assume they're worth 95m or that they can plausibly fetch this money in the market. That only happened because United went insane.

The way the football market works is that clubs often pick "their man" and then pay whatever is necessary to get them. That's how you end up with Antony costing 95m or a Brazilian teen costing 45m. The prerequisite is that someone has to pick that player as "their man" and there's far more of these players than there are clubs who need them. So yes, you can plausibly get a super high price for any talented player, but it's more likely that you won't.

if Mainoo was playing at the base of the midfield for Barca/Madrid/Bayern/City etc and playing how he is for us currently they’d tell you to go feck yourself if you offered anything under 80m MINIMUM
Right. The issue is that most clubs would say "we are not paying that."

Another factor with valuing young prodigies is that they are ‘unsellable’ and giant clubs simply scoff and make it entirely impossible to buy their jewels in the crown. Pedri, Kimmich, Busquets and so on and so forth were assuredly not viable targets for other clubs, hence bids did not come in for them. Mainoo is lining up to be in that bracket and United’s obstacle, unlike those aforementioned players’ clubs, is the player himself might move on to pastures new if not competing for leagues and CL’s, at which point the unsaleable will potentially have a price on his head.
This is a great point.

Barcelona value Pedri and Gavi extremely highly. Due to their financial situation I'm sure they'd sell for an 'unfair' fee (something like 150-200m). But that's unlikely to happen. More likely is that these players stay at Barcelona, or leave for a fee that's 'unfair' in the other direction (50m or so) because they didn't renew their contract or something. I doubt they are ever sold for their 'fair' market value (80-90m).
 
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I think a fundamental point missing from your assessment of Mainoo is he’s shown he is comfortable and capable of being a single pivot in a dreadful midfield playing in a role so barren, you’d have to ask how many other midfielders in the league could come into our shambolic set up and do the same or better. This isn’t Wilshere, who played in a comprehensively superior midfield and as an #8 with less burden of responsibility on his shoulders. DM/DLP is widely acknowledged as one of the hardest roles on the pitch and not one you see kids enter the fray as teenagers and excel at against season pros, and to reiterate once more, in dire conditions; if you are not watching our games, you have no clue how bad we are and have been in midfield and how much of a burden and responsibility we have placed on a kid’s underdeveloped shoulders. This simply isn’t the run of the mill; the conditions are absolutely abnormal, which is where so much more praise is being reserved for him.

Young prodigies come along and even shine in that role, but you should take a moment and think how many rose to such prominence at 18 and with so few professIonal games under their belt. Once you’ve done that, ask yourself how many of those have done it at a club of the pressure and standing of a Manchester United. Context is everything. The odds on him going to the Euros aren’t even that long, why is that? No matter what the fans think, why haven’t the bookmakers offered odds you can make a huge turnaround on if your ‘speculative’ punt turns out to be true?

Another factor with valuing young prodigies is that they are ‘unsellable’ and giant clubs simply scoff and make it entirely impossible to buy their jewels in the crown. Pedri, Kimmich, Busquets and so on and so forth were assuredly not viable targets for other clubs, hence bids did not come in for them. Mainoo is lining up to be in that bracket and United’s obstacle, unlike those aforementioned players’ clubs, is the player himself might move on to pastures new if not competing for leagues and CL’s, at which point the unsaleable will potentially have a price on his head.
What you are saying is completely reasonable. However, I am not sure that you gave an answer to the question. Do you really think that there is even one club in the world who would offer us 80 million pounds for Mainoo right now? Not in theory, in practice. If yes, which team might this be?

Myself, I don't see this as a possibility. All the teams that might be able to spend 80 million on a 18 year old player, would not be interested in Mainoo. So, in practice, he cannot be sold for this aount. Perhaps, we could find someone willing to pay 40 million pounds. Maybe. More than that... I don't think so.
 

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Dalot imo is one of our most valuable players, alongside Martinez, Shaw and Rashford.
Casemiro is pretty high as well.
 

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1. Altay Bayindir (G) - Zero. No one will be stupid enough to pay a fee to us for a back-up.
22. Tom Heaton (G) - Zero. Will probably be released at the end of the season.
24. Andre Onana (G) - 20m with us paying half his wages, which surely are ludicrous.

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) - 10m-15m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) - 20m, with us making up for the wage gap.
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) - 30m-35m, his actual worth. No way near the 57m (was it with add-ons) we paid for him.
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) - 10m-15m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) - Will leave on a free at the end of the season. 6 months left on the contract.
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) - 25m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) - 25m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) - 15m
35. Jonny Evans (D) - Zero
53. Willy Kambwala (D) - Can't comment.

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) - 40m with us covering half his wages.
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) - 60m, if get lucky and the Saudis come calling. Otherwise 30m with us covering a portion of the wages.
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) - 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) - Hopefully 10m.
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) - 40m, if the Saudis come calling. Otherwise we are struck with him till the end of his contract.
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) - 10m, if we are lucky.
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) - 30m-40m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) - 20m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) - Can't comment

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) - 60m
21. Antony (RWF) - Zero. A few loans with us covering the wages and then will leave on a free.
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) - 70m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) - Zero
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) - 25m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) - 20m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) - Zero. Loans with us covering a part of the wages and then he'll leave on a free.
 

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1. Altay Bayindir (G) 8M
22. Tom Heaton (G) 200k
24. Andre Onana (G) 35M

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) 15M
5. Harry Maguire (CD) 18M
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) 40M
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) 15M
19. Raphael Varane (CD) 20M
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) 30M
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) 40M
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) 18M
35. Jonny Evans (D) 1M
53. Willy Kambwala (D) Who?

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) 30M
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) 55M
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) 10M
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) 8M
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) 20M
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) 10M
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) 25M Small samplesize, could be 20 could be 50M.
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) 18M
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) Who?

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) 45M
21. Antony (RWF) 15M I think this a high estimate for him, but I guess some team would pay this for him. He's young, and you can make a short youtube video where he smashes in a goal or two.
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) 40M
9. Anthony Martial (CF) 12M
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) 45M
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) 19M
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) 20M His outburst and persona might be a hard sell.
 

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1. Altay Bayindir (G) - Zero. No one will be stupid enough to pay a fee to us for a back-up.
22. Tom Heaton (G) - Zero. Will probably be released at the end of the season.
24. Andre Onana (G) - 10 m with us paying half his wages, which surely are ludicrous.

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) - 10m-15m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) - 10m, with us making up for the wage gap.
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) - 30m-35m, his actual worth. No way near the 57m (was it with add-ons) we paid for him.
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) - 5m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) - Will leave on a free at the end of the season. 6 months left on the contract.
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) - 25m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) - 25m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) - 15m
35. Jonny Evans (D) - Zero
53. Willy Kambwala (D) - Can't comment.

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) - 15m with us covering half his wages.
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) - 60m, if get lucky and the Saudis come calling. Otherwise 30m with us covering a portion of the wages.
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) - 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) - Hopefully 10m.
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) - 25m, if the Saudis come calling. Otherwise we are struck with him till the end of his contract.
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) - 10m, if we are lucky.
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) - 30m-40m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) - 10m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) - Can't comment

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) - 60m
21. Antony (RWF) - Zero. A few loans with us covering the wages and then will leave on a free.
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) - 45m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) - Zero
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) - 25m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) - 20m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) - Zero. Loans with us covering a part of the wages and then he'll leave on a free.
Agree with most of your post.
 

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Onana is a meme. He's Bosnich but more shite.
He went to La Masia, then was great for Ajax, great for Inter and he's an established international. When we bought him, his stock was very high. A few months of horrendous form won't tarnish his whole career.
 

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i don’t think there would be that much value in our squad. 4 most valuable assets are probably Garnacho, Mainoo, Rashford. Greenwood is probably still quite valuable but would easily have been the most valuable had he not had that incident.
 

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1. Altay Bayindir (G) - 2.5M
22. Tom Heaton (G) - Free
24. Andre Onana (G) - 35M

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) - 15M
5. Harry Maguire (CD) - 25M
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) - 40M
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) - 5M
19. Raphael Varane (CD) - Free (Might get a nominal fee this window)
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) - 20M
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) - 50M
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) - 20M
35. Jonny Evans (D) - Free
53. Willy Kambwala (D) - N/A (not enough information yet)

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) - 40M
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) - 70M
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) - 5M
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) - 10M
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) - 20M
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) - 10M
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) - 30M (this should rise rapidly over the remainder of the season)
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) - 25M
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) - 10M

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) - 40M

21. Antony (RWF) - 20M
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) - 50M
9. Anthony Martial (CF) - Free
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) - 50M
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) - 20M

25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) - 25M

For fun I have bolded the ones whose value is rising or has the potential to rise going forward, the rest are either at their peak value or already declining.
 

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Squad valuation can be whatever you want it to be. If we were all about making profit from players we'd charge more but the one good thing about us is that we want our players to find a good club. There are no real valuations in football because whatever a player is valued at, clubs seem to charge way more anyway.
 

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He went to La Masia, then was great for Ajax, great for Inter and he's an established international. When we bought him, his stock was very high. A few months of horrendous form won't tarnish his whole career.
Whats good for Ajax in a puppet league ain't necessarily good for us. Look up the manager for reference. At Inter in the Italian league his weaknesses were glaring. Due to us bending over backwards for the managers whim, he is at United. If he was put on the market today not even Spurs would go for him.
 

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Is it the market value, or how much the offer that United is willing to sell? Garnacho and Mainoo may not worth that much in the market, but 100m offer for each won’t even tempt me (if it’s up to me).
 

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Some serious under valuations being listed. Mainoo is £60m right now, could be £100m in 2 years.
 

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Whats good for Ajax in a puppet league ain't necessarily good for us. Look up the manager for reference. At Inter in the Italian league his weaknesses were glaring. Due to us bending over backwards for the managers whim, he is at United. If he was put on the market today not even Spurs would go for him.
What are those weaknesses? His howlers for United are unacceptable, but he's never been this prone to them before, which suggests that it's a mental issue for him that could go away eventually. Actually, that's the likely scenario.

Other than that, he's been great at the job he's been tasked to do. He's almost impossible to press, which means he becomes a genuine passing option at the back and we've been able to bypass high presses with him with way more success compared to De Gea. His passing has also been really good and the way we've played out from the back this season at times shows you why he was brought in.

Spurs probably not going for him would be down to them finding a hidden gem in Vicario, who has been one of the best keepers in the world this season.
 

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Serious undervaluations however with the new FFP they sort of make sense.

The only players with value we could cash in on Summer 2024.

Harry Maguire - £20m 2 years left
Tyril Mallacia - £10m 3 years left
AWB - £20m - 18 months left
R Varane - £Nil
Casemiro - £25m 2 years left
V Lindeloft - £15m 2 years left
C Eriksen - £10m 1 year left
J Sancho - £30m 2 years + 1
Scott McTominay - £30m 2 years +1
M Greenwood - £40m 1 year + 1
DVB - £10m 1 year + 1

Maximum £200m more like £150m
 

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1. Altay Bayindir (G) 3m
22. Tom Heaton (G) 150k
24. Andre Onana (G) 15m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) 12m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) 25m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) 55m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) 12m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) 25m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) 30m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) 35m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) 25m
35. Jonny Evans (D) 150k
53. Willy Kambwala (D) 10m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) 35m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) 70m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) 10m
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) 35m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) 10m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) 100m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) 30m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) 10m

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) 100m
21. Antony (RWF) 25m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) 70m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) 5m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) 60m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) 25m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) 30m
 

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Which club has ever offered 100m pounds for an 18 years old player?

Mainoo is good and priceless but we do not really know how good he will really become. No one will go close to 100m or so for a central midfielder with 5-10 senior matches.
He is probably the best 18 years old out there, so it’s impossible we would sell him for anything lower than 100m. It’s called protecting future valuable assets. Who knows he could flop or he could become another Bellingham who could worth over 200m.
 

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He is probably the best 18 years old out there, so it’s impossible we would sell him for anything lower than 100m. It’s called protecting future valuable assets. Who knows he could flop or he could become another Bellingham who could worth over 200m.
The only people who would value Mainoo at £100m are deluded United fans
 

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The only people who would value Mainoo at £100m are deluded United fans
Whatever. Wouldn’t sell him for any less though. He has been by far our best midfielder this season and he is only 18. He is priceless.
 

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It's fun to talk about the value of the players, but when was the last time United made huge profit by selling a player? It is just shocking to see how much was spent compared to the return of investments of the last decade.
We doubled our money on Dan James.
We would do well to recoup 25% of what we paid for Sancho or Antony :nono:
 

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But the question is market value.
It’s a hypothetical question, but in reality best 18 years old around who shines in toughest league is priceless in whatever market. Because his value is likely to skyrocket in future.
 

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It’s a hypothetical question, but in reality best 18 years old around who shines in toughest league is priceless in whatever market. Because his value is likely to skyrocket in future.
He's only played a handful of games, he's only been good in some of them. That happens, it's not abnormal.

I think he will turn out very good, but he could also turn out a flop.