Value of our players/squad in an open market?

[Daydreamer]

Hope you guys have reconsidered your opinions since then...

United’s midfield was non-existent at points today, as has been the case several times throughout the season. I wouldn’t place the blame for that on Mainoo, I’d be looking at his more experienced midfield partners and the Manager first. But I also wouldn’t want Arsenal to drop £100m on him.

He wouldn’t start for Arsenal, Liverpool or City. I don’t know about Villa and Spurs as I don’t watch them enough. He doesn’t even make the England squad and we’re crying out for midfielders right now.

He’s a talented player who could very well have a brilliant future. However, the reason he stands out so much in your midfield right now because he is often literally the only person standing in midfield as you frequently vacate the entire middle third of the pitch. That is simply is not the case with any professional team that I’ve witnessed.

 

[stefan92]

Hope you guys have reconsidered your opinions since then...

Last time I checked United weren't in a title race

More seriously, as mentioned if he has one great game and a few not so impressive it just proves what I think - he can become that player, but he still is far away from having the necessary consistency in his performances.

So no, I haven't reconsidered my opinion.

 

[Hammondo]

You need to chill!

CHILL YOUR TITS!

 

[Son]

1. Altay Bayindir (G) 10m
22. Tom Heaton (G) 500k
24. Andre Onana (G) 45m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) 25m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) 30m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) 55m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) 10m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) 20m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) 40m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) 40m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) 40m
35. Jonny Evans (D) 5m
53. Willy Kambwala (D) 10m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) 45m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) 50m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) 10m
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) 20m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) 15m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) 80m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) 40m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) 15m

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) 70m
21. Antony (RWF) 35m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) 90m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) Zero
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) 80m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) 40m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) 50m

 

[JediSith]

So much depends on the deal makers DoF & CEO. Having a competent team can add £10m plus to many of our players. So I’ll give two values. Old regime and competent regime

Old regime / competent regime

1. Altay Bayindir (G) £1m / 2-3m
22. Tom Heaton (G) Free/Free
24. Andre Onana (G) £35m / 50-70m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) £5m/ 10-20m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) £20m / £40m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) £40m / £60m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) £10m / 15-20m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) £20m / £40m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) £40m / 55m-60m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) £40m/ £55-80m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) £20m / £30m
35. Jonny Evans (D) free / free
53. Willy Kambwala (D) £25m / £35-40m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) £25m / 40m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) £50m/ 70-100m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) free/free
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) Don’t know
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) £15m/ 25-35m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) £20m/30m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) £60m / 80-130m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) £30m/ £40-50m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM)

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) £70m /90-120m
21. Antony (RWF) £20m / £30-45m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) £50m / 60-80m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) £10m / £20m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) £50m / £80-100m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) £25m / £40m (value can rise greatly with game time)
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) £30m / £40-50m

 

[Red Rash]

Old regime / competent regime

24. Andre Onana (G) £35m / 50-70m

5. Harry Maguire (CD) £20m / £40m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) £40m / 55m-60m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) £40m/ £55-80m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) £50m/ 70-100m

Not that I dislike these players but I'll have what your smoking for the upper end of the competent price ranges.

 

[JediSith]

Not that I dislike these players but I'll have what your smoking for the upper end of the competent price ranges.

Look at form. View City/Real as example of competent sellers and the price they get, and imagine what teams below us would pay for players from United.

Also I think most of those players could easily find interest from a top 5 prem team and top European teams, baring maybe City.

Maguire his value is up from last year. Can see top 10 club paying £40m for him but wages would be the issue.

 

[Captmfla]

So much depends on the deal makers DoF & CEO. Having a competent team can add £10m plus to many of our players. So I’ll give two values. Old regime and competent regime

Old regime / competent regime

1. Altay Bayindir (G) £1m / 2-3m
22. Tom Heaton (G) Free/Free
24. Andre Onana (G) £35m / 50-70m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) £5m/ 10-20m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) £20m / £40m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) £40m / £60m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) £10m / 15-20m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) £20m / £40m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) £40m / 55m-60m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) £40m/ £55-80m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) £20m / £30m
35. Jonny Evans (D) free / free
53. Willy Kambwala (D) £25m / £35-40m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) £25m / 40m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) £50m/ 70-100m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) free/free
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) Don’t know
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) £15m/ 25-35m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) £20m/30m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) £60m / 80-130m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) £30m/ £40-50m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM)

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) £70m /90-120m
21. Antony (RWF) £20m / £30-45m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) £50m / 60-80m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) £10m / £20m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) £50m / £80-100m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) £25m / £40m (value can rise greatly with game time)
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) £30m / £40-50m

Shaw is the best bargain.

Bought for only 30 mil and he has given us so many years of football and even came back to football after a horrific injury.

 

[JediSith]

Shaw is the best bargain.

Bought for only 30 mil and he has given us so many years of football and even came back to football after a horrific injury.

Yeah very underrated. Has come through not only injury but also Mourinho

 

[Sandikan]

So much depends on the deal makers DoF & CEO. Having a competent team can add £10m plus to many of our players. So I’ll give two values. Old regime and competent regime

Old regime / competent regime

1. Altay Bayindir (G) £1m / 2-3m
22. Tom Heaton (G) Free/Free
24. Andre Onana (G) £35m / 50-70m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) £5m/ 10-20m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) £20m / £40m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) £40m / £60m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) £10m / 15-20m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) £20m / £40m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) £40m / 55m-60m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) £40m/ £55-80m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) £20m / £30m
35. Jonny Evans (D) free / free
53. Willy Kambwala (D) £25m / £35-40m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) £25m / 40m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) £50m/ 70-100m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) free/free
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) Don’t know
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) £15m/ 25-35m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) £20m/30m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) £60m / 80-130m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) £30m/ £40-50m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM)

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) £70m /90-120m
21. Antony (RWF) £20m / £30-45m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) £50m / 60-80m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) £10m / £20m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) £50m / £80-100m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) £25m / £40m (value can rise greatly with game time)
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) £30m / £40-50m

I think it'd need an absolutely incredible / upto their neck in dodgy deals to get anywhere near some of your upper values there!

 

[Sandikan]

Shaw is the best bargain.

Bought for only 30 mil and he has given us so many years of football and even came back to football after a horrific injury.

Yes and no.
On top form he's superb. But he's been here 8 or 9 years and probably missed 2-3 injured and had a couple of others in up and down form.

 

[JediSith]

I think it'd need an absolutely incredible / upto their neck in dodgy deals to get anywhere near some of your upper values there!

Don’t think so to be honest. You’ll be surprised how much of a premium top teams can get for even average squad players. Now imagine the modern game where top teams often have very good players that for whatever reason are not or no longer suitable.

McTominay is better than Cleverly.
Maguire is better than any of the back up CB’s we had in the 90s or 00s.

Fernandes is better than most players sold by City for £40-£60m

 

[Sandikan]

Don’t think so to be honest. You’ll be surprised how much of a premium top teams can get for even average squad players. Now imagine the modern game where top teams often have very good players that for whatever reason are not or no longer suitable.

McTominay is better than Cleverly.
Maguire is better than any of the back up CB’s we had in the 90s or 00s.

Fernandes is better than most players sold by City for £40-£60m

You had Luke Shaw, who turns 29 in a few months at a value of 55-80m, which is not only a ludicrous range, but there's not a chance in hell anyone buys him in that range anyway.

Onana and Martinez higher than even we bought them for, Mainoo who has played a handful of games over 100m, which only a tiny handful of players in the history of football have gone for.

Hojlund doubling in value, Garnacho over 100m

Actually your list was even more crazy than I thought.

 

[jesperjaap]

Weird thread, usuallly whenever see transfer talk people seem to really under rate the value of our players the last few years, majority of the players I am seeig nvalues alongside I think are above what we would get for them

 

[JediSith]

You had Luke Shaw, who turns 29 in a few months at a value of 55-80m, which is not only a ludicrous range, but there's not a chance in hell anyone buys him in that range anyway.

Onana and Martinez higher than even we bought them for, Mainoo who has played a handful of games over 100m, which only a tiny handful of players in the history of football have gone for.

Hojlund doubling in value, Garnacho over 100m

Actually your list was even more crazy than I thought.

Real Madrid paid £55m for a 16 year old Brazilian. Mainoo who at 18 is less of a gamble and plays in a superior league, plays in a position that is much rarer to find real quality these days, most likely will get better and has 12-14 years at the top. And you think that price is too high? You’re not looking at what the type of club that could sign Mainoo will consider and come to the conclusion that it’s cheap.

Martinez has definitely gone up in value. You think after the season he had last year we’d sell him for less? Of course he needs to return from injury and continue his form.

Shaw maybe age might be a factor for the upper limit of my range.

Garnacho he’s playing in the Premier League. For one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world. Look at how much South Americans in his position who are younger and less experienced move for. So no £100m is not crazy. Actually you’re a bit naive and underestimate the value of some of our players.

Hojlund value has also increased. In fact if spurs bought him for £60m and united or any club wanted him in the summer how much do you think he’ll go for? Think about it before answering. Do you think Levy will accept £61m-£80m? No way.

 

[golden_blunder]

1. Altay Bayindir (G) 10m - 5-6m
22. Tom Heaton (G) 500k - free/250k at most
24. Andre Onana (G) 45m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) 25m - 15m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) 30m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) 55m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) 10m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) 20m - 15m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) 40m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) 40m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) 40m
35. Jonny Evans (D) 5m - 2m
53. Willy Kambwala (D) 10m - 8m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) 45m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) 50m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) 10m
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) 20m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) 15m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) 80m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) 40m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) 15m - 8/10m

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) 70m
21. Antony (RWF) 35m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) 90m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) Zero
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) 80m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) 40m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) 50m

Corrected some which I think you overpriced

 

[jem]

You had Luke Shaw, who turns 29 in a few months at a value of 55-80m, which is not only a ludicrous range, but there's not a chance in hell anyone buys him in that range anyway.

Onana and Martinez higher than even we bought them for, Mainoo who has played a handful of games over 100m, which only a tiny handful of players in the history of football have gone for.

Hojlund doubling in value, Garnacho over 100m

Actually your list was even more crazy than I thought.

The Kambwala valuation strikes me as very optimistic.

 

[JeffFromHK]

The bunch of posters saying Hojlund is worth 25 or 30M on page one is ludicrous. Judgments of majority of casual fans can be so wrong

 

[Abraxas]

The bunch of posters saying Hojlund is worth 25 or 30M on page one is ludicrous. Judgments of majority of casual fans can be so wrong

I think they went early before he really kicked into form.

But still, poor knee jerk judgement. He's always been at least holding value due to age, fitness wasn't quite there to begin with which doesn't condemn a player when he came with an injury, and his performances were never actually poor.

When we bought him for that price and everyone said it was overpriced, well..it wasn't really. It was bog standard middle of the road for a talented striker today. It's a valuation which can go massively up if he produces, it can double. If he doesn't it will steadily go down but not overnight due to age and potential. There's actually a lot more upside than downside which the valuation experts underestimated in the summer.

 

[Son]

Corrected some which I think you overpriced

Thanks well I think it was a pretty decent guess then overall

 

[BelfastRed2021]

People selling Bruno before Lindelof and Mctominay jesus H christ we have such a weird fan base.

 

[Todd]

Thinking about Mainoo's predicament, where he needs midfielders around him on or even above his level, the thought of just how much such players would cost crossed my mind. Following on from that, the thought of how much Kobbie himself would be valued at by the club loomed large.

Our standing has plummeted since the last time one of these threads was done (that I can remember), so I wondered what our entire squad would be valued at by our own fans in the middle of this catastrophic season. If we opened up the squad to open bidding, how much do you think each player is currently worth?



1. Altay Bayindir (G) 2m
22. Tom Heaton (G) 1m
24. Andre Onana (G) 40m

2. Victor Lindelof (CD) 15m
5. Harry Maguire (CD) 20m
6. Lisandro Martinez (CD) 40m
12. Tyrell Malacia (LB) 5m
19. Raphael Varane (CD) 10m
20. Diogo Dalot (RB; FB) 35m
23. Luke Shaw (LB; CD) 30m
29. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (RB) 20m
35. Jonny Evans (D) 1m
53. Willy Kambwala (D) 1m

7. Mason Mount (AM; CM) 35m
8. Bruno Fernandes (AM; CM; RM; SS) 45m
14. Christian Eriksen (CM; AM) 5m
46. Hannibal Mejbri (CM) 2m
18. Casemiro (DM; CM) 15m
28. Facundo Pellistri (RM) 5m
37. Kobbie Mainoo (CM; DM) 60m
39. Scott McTominay (AM; CM) 35m
44. Daniel Gore (AM; CM; RM; LM) 2m

17. Alejandro Garnacho (LWF; RWF) 70m
21. Antony (RWF) 30m
10. Marcus Rashford (LWF; CF; RWF) 80m
9. Anthony Martial (CF) 1m
11. Rasmus Hojlund (CF; RWF) 90m
16. Amad Diallo (RWF) 20m
25. Jadon Sancho (RWF; LWF; AM; SS) 40m