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VAR and Refs | General Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Pen, red and all the following decisions correct too. A rare win for the officials in what's been a poor season
Willian doesn't play for Chelsea anymore FYI
Man... didn't you see that he accelerated his hand at the last moment to make sure the ball was blocked?
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Is it that hard to admit you are wrong
Is this as close as you'll get to admitting you were talking total bollocks?
Honestly there is something about Utd that triggers something in peoples heads. The most blatant decisions get debated and questioned if they go in our favour. It's mental.
Yeah, I can understand opposition fans being annoyed at the luck we had with Fulham going into meltdown after us being pretty much total shit for 70 minutes and deservedly losing... but there's no argument to be had about the actual decisions themselves.
Handball does not have to be deliberate to be penalised. Especially where it quite clearly partially or totally stops the ball going in the net. It's always been handball if it hits someone's hand or arm on the goal line.
You could argue the red card is harsh maybe as it was possibly accidental but it is 100% always a penalty and once the pen is given it Is normally followed by red in similar situations.
His hand moves in a way that could be construed and deliberate because it IS deliberate.
Most shocking thing tonight is that VAR and ref got every call right in that mess.
This is why VAR and refereeing is awful for as long I can remember.
All trying to cover each other’s backs so much, the correct decision is secondary
I think after giving us a pen the ref wasn't giving another one.
We’re getting there. Baby steps…
And because VAR failed in its primary purpose. Yet again.
So many people elsewhere saying that Sancho's shot was going wide 
It's actually funny how hatred can blind some
You can clearly see it's going in if he doesn't stop it with his arm, anyone saying otherwise must be blind.
Even the commentator said it, that "some people have seen a replay and it appears the ball might not have been on target" but didn't show any such replay. It's about a foot inside the post from all the replays they did show. Bonkers.So many people elsewhere saying that Sancho's shot was going wide
I think the refs are scared to give Man Utd these big decisions in real time because they know it will be scrutinised over and over by the TV people and talked about constantly for weeks if its wrong.
No other club has the decisions it gets scrutinised as much as ours.
First I thought the red was a bit harsh, but looking at the replay and he seems to move his arm in the direction to block the shot and then there is no discussion anymore. If he had his hand in that position from the beginning it’d be another situation, but as he moved it, clear red imo.
You have to say that Fulham made it all super easy for the officials with the quite spectacular meltdown. They won’t get an easier set of decisions to make in their careers.
Would that make a difference for the ref’s decisions? Just curious.So many people elsewhere saying that Sancho's shot was going wide
Color of the card
We have unfortunately reached the stage now where a few of our players have a certain image and it’s becoming hard to shake that off . It’s very difficult for Rashford to get a penalty, Bruno seems to not get any decisions and Maguire has this image where if there’s ever a 50-50 then he must have fouled. Don’t really know how we move away from that
VAR has taken the responsibility of the officials, now it is hidden behind some entity that no one can touch. Just officiate the game and let VAR correct the wrong decisions instead of letting VAR officiate the bloody game.
Ok you mean if the shot was clearly going to miss, it would have been a yellow?
I think so
Don't know what Marco Silva said to official ref but assistant ref called for a send off too.
The other two decisions, I don't know how anyone can spin it other than straight red cards. Maybe Mitrovic could've gotten away with it if Ref had been on good mood but not today.
These are as text book as it get
The other two decisions, I don't know how anyone can spin it other than straight red cards. Maybe Mitrovic could've gotten away with it if Ref had been on good mood but not today.
These are as text book as it get
Have you lost your mind?
what are we debating here? Clear red and a pen. Move on
The ball is past his torso, it’s why it hits his right hand?
You’re all arguing with a flat earther
He's not allowed to approach the ref while he is looking at the screen he has to stay in his technical area.
At least that is what he said in his press conference. He accepted he broke the rules.
The only debate is why Kavanagh didnt give it in real time. Genuinely concerning decision for something that was so obvious, if he's kept up with play and remotely positioned himself well, there's just no way he can miss it and somehow he did. After last weekend I wonder if we'll get a real time penalty again.
Ok, it makes sense in some way
even though the handballer is still doing it with the same intent in both casesCan you even prove handballs are intentional or not? Refs are not mind reader. No player is stupid enough to deliberately handball inside the box, it's always split second reflection or bad body pose.
Handball to stop a clear goal, even unintentional one, is a red most of the time. Unless ball hits other part of the body first
Reece James was sent off at Anfield after the ball bounced off his knee on to his arm on the goalline.
You’re literally making this up and chatting shit mate.