VAR and Refs | General Discussion
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Getting worse each week.
One of these days, a side is going to walk off the pitch… take the loss/punishment yes but at least it’ll make headlines and a point. Maybe something happens then.
The PGMOL and similar around the world have got to reinforce (1) it’s ONLY clear and obvious (2) refs should dictate what they’re shown and be reminded to only change their mind if they are sure they got it completely wrong
Was that for a foul in the keeper?
Or is it that the player on the line was being blocked from getting the ball by a player in an offside position?
The ref signals offside.
Thought so. Harsh enough call, but the player on the line might get a head on that if he's not being blocked off.
Yeah, to me offside seems like a fair decision there.
Ederson injured now because refs just can't flag a 4 feet offside on time.
Absolute nonsense, may as well just disallow all goals from corners given there's always holding somewhere and technically it's a foul.
The Luton goal earlier is clearly a foul when you look at it from the wide angle. 11 just plays the keeper, no interest in the ball whatsoever, just back in and flattens the keeper. Maybe they say it's not clear and obvious or similar.
Anyway, I say again, just scrap VAR, it makes the game much worse and it doesn't even fix errors.
aye. they’ll get away with it this time because it’s not impacted a proper team, but imagine if something like that happened to someone like newcastle?
This Clattenburg referee seems like a right cock
Player on the linenwas blocked by a player offside. If that were the keeper it would be called offside.
Offside is what was given as was pointed out above.
It's a moronic use of a technicality to disallow a goal, so as I said. Why not just punish any holding at any corner and disallow any goal where that happens?
What's the difference?
You want to disallow a goal because two players are touching each on the line and it could be "offside", follow it through to the entire play.
Can football get any stupider.
Dissent Watch: Newcastle ogre, Dan Burn, with very aggressive flapping of the arms at the ref, screams at the ref, gets in the ref's face aggressively.
No yellow.
No yellow.
No second yellow for Rodri? the guy was literally shouting at the refs face
What's wrong with that decision? Correctly disallowed according to the laws.
Imagine if that was a United player! Would have been a second yellow for sure.
Jokers
Nice to see the referees keeping the same standards across games.
The yellow for Burn and second yellow for Rodri make me feel much happier about Dalot getting two yellows against LiVARpool
The yellow for Burn and second yellow for Rodri make me feel much happier about Dalot getting two yellows against LiVARpool
It's a complete joke.
There was holding, but that's not the foul.
Player on the line was being blocked in his efforts to get the ball, by an offside player. It's offside. Per the rules, it looks like a correct call to me
Don't be daft. The attacker on the line is in an offside position and interfering with the defender's ability to play the ball. It's 100 % offside.
This is the law:
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
- interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
- interfering with an opponent by:
- preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
- challenging an opponent for the ball or
- clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
- making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
- *The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used
It's beyond dispute by now that the rules are only fully enforced against United. One team in the country is routinely treated as harshly as the letter of the law allows for while everyone else gets away with the exact same thing again and again.
For minutes… think of Dalot
No yellows for throwing their arms around and shouting about it being a goal kick rather than a corner?
Lot of dissent today. Dalot Rule seems to just apply to ManUtd players.
Dissent Watch: Rodri, on a yellow, runs up to the ref and pounds his hands on the ground in front of him, while shouting at him.
No yellow.
No yellow.
United really need to do a video compilation of incidents since the Dalot incident and ask serious questions about bias
You could fill up half a day with footage from the last handful of years where United players were treated as harshly as the rules possibly allow for while all other teams/players get away with the same every week.
Textbook VAR nonsense. The defender on the line had no chance of getting to that ball, whether or not the offside player was there. The ref and linesman correctly assumed he was an irrelevance in real time. But throw in endless slo motion replays from loads of different angles and suddenly he’s potentially superhuman. So dumb.
Totally agree. What bothers me is that they do it for that but not for other minor possible offences. Makes a mockery out of the whole system.
Selective reviewing is as much of a problem as the outright mistakes and offside grey area.
We saw it yesterday with the Gusto challenge. No difference at with the Rashford red card v Copenhagen.
Don't even get started on the handball given on Livremento given against Newcastle in that PSG game. Even if such nonsense is sent for review, the ref must be blind to give it.
Has to be a fk otherwise he'd had been offside
Edit offside anyway
Edit offside anyway
Its ridiculous how long this offside is taking, it should be much quicker.
Literally a 10 second job to see that Danjuma was fouled (and thus offside or not irrelevant). Incredible how it took so long.
Exactly what I said.
Was also a clear offside anyway just by looking at the cut of the grass.
Then for good measure var decided to check a 2nd offside for interference but then gave the original offside. Why look at the interference if he already decided the first pass was offside?
Two hands wrapped around a players waist pulling them back is not a foul now.
I thought that was a pen.
compare that hold to what Hojlund did against City…it’s absolutely laughable.
Was that Mike Dean saying “yeah he had two hands holding him back but it didn’t make him fall like that”
As if Rhodri went down naturally. These fecking people.
The mental gymnastics Sky and PMGOL used to try and justify the Rodri dive in the derby being given as a penalty but then just as happy to say Gabriel on Hojlund and two hands around the waist on Garnacho by Udogie are not fouls. The hypocrisy is deafening. The silence by the club is even louder. Klopp and Arteta would be writing statements and printing t-shirts asking for replays week in week out if on receiving end of our refereeing decisions.
Then we get fecking Neville and that pointless ex ref just dismissing it.