Morpheus 7
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It's a pen, lack of consistency with VAR though. How did we not get a pen against Spurs if this is given.
Agreed. It's the inconsistency that's maddening.I think it’s a pen but it goes against every reason as to why our pen v Spurs wasn’t given
It's a pen, lack of consistency with VAR though. How did we not get a pen against Spurs if this is given.
Wouldn't go as far as to say refs decided the game.They've decided the outcome of a game again. Every fecking week.
Everton didn't have any problems until referee gave Everton red card but somehow missed to give Liverpool. And if that wasn't enough, he gave Liverpool penalty when they couldn't break Everton defence.Wouldn't go as far as to say refs decided the game.
If you play like Everton do at Anfield you are asking for trouble. How much of the ball and territory on the pitch can you reasonably concede and not expect to have problems. Things are going to happen. Chances, fouls in and around the box, at the very least the ref is going to have plenty of decisions to make, and yes - sometimes they will get them wrong but he's hardly going to be getting them wrong in a way that benefits Everton in terms of winning the game if they're doing feck all on the ball.
Everton lose the game before they even start because they're not good enough and they play in a way that almost guarantees it will be hard to come away with a result.
If we are saying that it's a blatant penalty than how can our one against Spurs or our one against Palace not be given? Both just as blatant neither given.There's been loads of worse handballs given since that. It's Liverpool vs Everton at Anfield, there is no way they weren't getting a penalty. Even if the Spurs game never happened, they would get that penalty.
Depends on teams. It should be pretty clear for everyone.If we are saying that it's a blatant penalty than how can our one against Spurs or our one against Palace not be given? Both just as blatant neither given.
Anyone wants to guess how many decisions will Liverpool get in their favour today?
Well, they did have problems. The problem they had was conceding all of the ball and sitting back which means situations occur at more of a frequency that gives refs decisions to make, in front of a home crowd. Then decisions get made.Everton didn't have any problems until referee gave Everton red card but somehow missed to give Liverpool. And if that wasn't enough, he gave Liverpool penalty when they couldn't break Everton defence.
As I said. I hope Dyche mention this in press conference and point out that it is not a universal rule to give Liverpool penalties and other game deciding decisions. He should continue with demanding apology and Everton as club should appeal. After that, there should be a week full of programs where we discuss this game from day to night.
As per the rules it's a penalty, as was Utd's against Spurs. From memory there a few worse handballs given since then, Luton definitely got one that deflected off a defenders leg and hit their hand.If we are saying that it's a blatant penalty than how can our one against Spurs or our one against Palace not be given? Both just as blatant neither given.
Called it after the Spurs game. Liverpool have officials on side for the rest of the season now.
Tactics, luck or quality of players/teams should decide games. Games shouldn't be decided by referees, something that was done today.Well, they did have problems. The problem they had was conceding all of the ball and sitting back which means situations occur at more of a frequency that gives refs decisions to make, in front of a home crowd. Then decisions get made.
All of this is known in football before you go into the game, home advantage is there and refs cock up - it's not a mystery. If you don't want that to happen or want to reduce the chances play more proactively, compete more for the ball and for the creation of your own opportunities and not just restricting the opposition.
I get you don't want every decision going to VAR because it's bad enough with the delays as it is, but a second yellow is obviously as big a game-changer as a straight red.Should potential second yellows not be looked at by VAR?
O.k it's a re-writing of the rules and Konate foul wasn't dangerous play but he should've been off. Just as Kovacic should've been off v Arsenal. If Oliver views that from another angle it would surely be a red card and same today.
Too many players getting let off because ref bottles a sending off of a player from a top 6 club and would rather give them "one last warning."
You'd have to look at every yellow though, surely?I get you don't want every decision going to VAR because it's bad enough with the delays as it is, but a second yellow is obviously as big a game-changer as a straight red.
We've now had two very big -and blatantly obvious- decisions in the last two prem weekends bottled by refs who are either completely inept, too weak or just plain corrupt.
Yeah that's the problem and it would make the game unwatchable. Was more ranting tbh, but seeing these spineless pricks bottle it at Anfield while gleefully brandishing reds against Casemiro for example will never not be annoying.You'd have to look at every yellow though, surely?
If you're only reviewing the second then you have to consider whether the first was actually a yellow too.
They just couldn't bring themselves to admit it was a piss poor decision because it went against United.I think it’s a pen but it goes against every reason as to why our pen v Spurs wasn’t given
Suppose you could make it so a potential second yellow is reviewed alongside the first booking, but as you say, it would be bordering on unwatchable at that point.Yeah that's the problem and it would make the game unwatchable. Was more ranting tbh, but seeing these spineless pricks bottle it at Anfield while gleefully brandishing reds against Casemiro for example will never not be annoying.
Pause the video at 1 second, when the ball is hit (from what we can see).Brentford had a goal disallowed today because of an offside that was 100% onside. Their number 22, Collins, is the one that VAR cheks for offside. He is the one, who makes the assist.
Clearly Collins is onside, but it kinda looks like the Brentford player who was offside was interfering with the Burnley player at the back post.Brentford had a goal disallowed today because of an offside that was 100% onside. Their number 22, Collins, is the one that VAR cheks for offside. He is the one, who makes the assist.
There's more interference here than if you compare the McTominay/Scotland free kick goal v Spain....yet both were ruled out for offsidesClearly Collins is onside, but it kinda looks like the Brentford player who was offside was interfering with the Burnley player at the back post.
Can see why that would be given, but it's baffling why they were checking Collins if that's the case.
But we would be shouting for the penThat penalty was a joke, if that was a Sheff Utd player at the other end there is no way it would have been given.
We really wouldntBut we would be shouting for the pen
LiterallyIts funny because the palace player had a decade to get out of the way and it wasn't deemed a handball. Amazing .