A Liverpool fan is never going to referee United fairly
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Absolute joke tonight.
How do you let a self confessed scouser referee their fiercest rivals? I genuinely thought they had shit in place to stop stuff like this, seems not
They let Oliver who cried over United beating Newcastle growing up, referee us all the time
Yeah and as much as it’s shit, I can somewhat understand it. Newcastle aren’t our rivals, and if you banned refs who had their childhoods ruined by United, there wouldn’t be many left. But this is Liverpool.
Insane amount of time wasting in this game.
According to Newcastle fans we're one of their biggest rivals.
No yellow card for timewasting … give it in the first half and this shit would stop… this game was unwatchable
If anyone can find a replay of our penalty claim that would be great. Nobody can tell me the broadcasters don’t have a say in how those are re-refereed. Not a single bloody word was said.
they can play multiple replays for other incidents oddly enough
I remember when we played Forest last season. They were time wasting like crazy when they were 2-1 up. But the proper annoying thing was, we turned the game around in the 2nd half and went 3-2 up and all of a sudden they're being rewarded for the time wasting they did earlier with a lengthy stoppage time.
I’d be keen to see this.
It's no conspiracy, he's just a shit ref.
My thought exactly. I don’t think he was biazed, he’s just not better than this.
Just like most of the refs in this league.
It’s a shame how the most popular league in the world can’t have decent refs. VAR is not helping them, it just proves how terrible they really are when they can’t make a right decision when they can see the incident again and again on a monitor.
He was ok. Let a lot go for both teams I thought. Generally prefer that to overly fussy refereeing. Should definitely have booked their keeper though. That was annoying.
What penalty claim? Not the Casemiro dive, surely?
I assume the potential trip on Maz(I think), near the end.
I think I’d resigned myself to defeat by then. I don’t even remember it.
I thought he fell for a lot of dives and play acting.
Particularly galling was giving a yellow to Casemiro because that twat Yates screamed as he jumped to the deck, when replays showed there was barely contact, and then refused to give the same player a yellow when he was late and stepped on Bruno's foot.
Forest also got away with a massive amount of time-wasting but unfortunately that's not out of the ordinary.
Forgiveable. Especially given the commentators quietly mentioned it once, in stark contrast to how it would have been hyped up and scrutinised in the other box.
Edit: I know this sounds conspiratorial. But can anyone honestly say that this wouldn't have been the case?
He was abysmal. More than double fouls against United, and that's before some terrible calls. These performances are worse than ones where a ref gives a bad call like a penalty but otherwise does ok. He dictated the flow of the match as much as an effective central midfielder can
It's all referees fault that the sport is in the state its in with diving, injury feigning, timewasting and the rest of the "dark art" shit.
They have the power to stamp these things out of the game in a matter of weeks with strict, common sense refereeing but they are afraid to. Afraid of fans, afraid of media pushback, afraid of not getting to be friendly with star players and big name managers. Spineless wanks.
They have the power to stamp these things out of the game in a matter of weeks with strict, common sense refereeing but they are afraid to. Afraid of fans, afraid of media pushback, afraid of not getting to be friendly with star players and big name managers. Spineless wanks.
There was a penalty claim for us in injury time. Not sure what for but lots of our players called for it.
Why wasn’t it shown? Almost certainly not a pen but why can’t we see that? Was there a var review? Usually they call that out but not in this case (maybe it was so obvious it didn’t need a review but we didn’t see that)
Why wasn’t it shown? Almost certainly not a pen but why can’t we see that? Was there a var review? Usually they call that out but not in this case (maybe it was so obvious it didn’t need a review but we didn’t see that)
Excellent. Another Liverpool title with an * against it. Completely daft to introduce new tech during a season. Just wait until the next season.
How long before the hairline nature of semi auto annoys everyone more than the lines...
The hairline nature of it is going to annoy me. Someone's hand or arse being mm offside isn't an advantage. There needs to be some sort of clear and obvious advantage. (I'm almost certain Wenger has or is proposing something where the offside would have to be an obvious clear advantage as opposed to just a part of the players body being mm offside)
That Yates non yellow is just a yellow we’ve become accustomed to the opposition not getting against us. Imagine any of ours did that on the edge of their box and didn’t get booked. 
You can’t…
You can’t…With the semi-automated offside are they now able to determine the exact moment the ball leaves the players foot or will they still need to keep the margin of error they introduced for the lines?
Even with that as @Fr. Todd Unctious says the mm offsides we've seen in Europe are ridiculous. A player being offside because they have bigger feet and their toenail is ahead of the defender isn't enough to rule out a goal for me.
Even with that as @Fr. Todd Unctious says the mm offsides we've seen in Europe are ridiculous. A player being offside because they have bigger feet and their toenail is ahead of the defender isn't enough to rule out a goal for me.
There should be a 100mm margin of error or something. But even then, you’re just moving the line - someone is going to be 101mm offside and it’ll be exactly the same. However it would be slightly fairer - there’s no way a striker gets an advantage from anything less than that.
It literally happened to eriksen later in the game haha. It’s absolutely ridiculous at this point.That Yates non yellow is just a yellow we’ve become accustomed to the opposition not getting against us. Imagine any of ours did that on the edge of their box and didn’t get booked.
I'm already annoyed. Getting in there early.
That's what the margin is currently.
I don't know why the Premier League cannot wait until next season to implement semi automated offside, they regularly seem change something towards the end of a season.
One season they raised the bar for handball midseason, after many had already been on the receiving end of soft penalties. They introduced the extra added time after 36 rounds of matches had been played ready for its roll out the next season.
Would certain offside given early season when the ball seems to have already left the foot in the freeze frame have been given in this version? The version outside of the Premier League use a sensor in the ball...
One season they raised the bar for handball midseason, after many had already been on the receiving end of soft penalties. They introduced the extra added time after 36 rounds of matches had been played ready for its roll out the next season.
Would certain offside given early season when the ball seems to have already left the foot in the freeze frame have been given in this version? The version outside of the Premier League use a sensor in the ball...
May as well give it a trial period during the most boring end of season in PL history.
Title is decided, relegation is decided and it's the three cnuty oil clubs battling it out for the CL so who cares if one of them gets shafted.
Not complaining, but if I compare this to dorgu that should have been red, right?
I'm old school, but I don't want red cards given for challenges where the player wins the ball. Free kick and a yellow if we really must.
I am with you but i just don‘t see the difference
If one of our players committed that tackle like Tarkovski's last night and it wasn't a red every pundit/media outlet would be on it to bitch about it.
So, has anyone even seen a replay of the penalty shout yet? I'm starting to get sick of the selectiveness of which incidents are shown again. Are they gaslighting us?
No difference. You could argue that Tarkowski got more of the ball than Dorgu did, but that's an irrelevance. The ball is the ball. Just more inconsistency.