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Victor is like the complete opposite of weghorst. He runs in behind, is a fantastic finisher and presses well too...however his link up play and hold up isnt so good. Weghorst excels in the link up play and hold up...but cant run in behind. Either way, its better to ger victor over harry kane
That's why if we could get Weghorst for around £10m-£15m then got two different types of number 9 which is useful
 

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That's why if we could get Weghorst for around £10m-£15m then got two different types of number 9 which is useful
Can we at least wait and see if Weghorst is anywhere close to good enough before making these plans? I think that is hugely debatable at this point.
 

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If osihmen comes then martial will likely stay tbh. Mainly to help play in rashford on goal.
 

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Can we at least wait and see if Weghorst is anywhere close to good enough before making these plans? I think that is hugely debatable at this point.
I'm just talking about any cheap backup in that mould who is different option to our starter striker we bring in this summer
 

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Assuming he wants him that is
Yeah of course,if he wants to go down the Kane/Vlahovic route then no problem. I feel the likes of Ramos/Sesko aren't ready for the step up yet though but Erik may feel differently.
 

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Yeah of course,if he wants to go down the Kane/Vlahovic route then no problem. I feel the likes of Ramos/Sesko aren't ready for the step up yet though but Erik may feel differently.
I think Ramos fits the system like a glove so he might not score enough goals but still be an upgrade for us, which is fine for year 1, like a Malacia type of level/vibe but a more important role, and obviously much more money.
 

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Just saw his most recent goal against Roma :eek:
He’d be sensational in the Prem
 

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I'd still be a bit wary of signing a striker from Seria A - Ademola Lookman, who wasn't that good at Everton, is 2nd top scorer in the league ffs!!

Lautaro Martinez, who is just gash, is the 3rd top scorer.

And we've seen how players like Lukaku can tear the league up there but not be that good in the PL.

Osimhen doesn't have the best injury record either.
 

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I'd still be a bit wary of signing a striker from Seria A - Ademola Lookman, who wasn't that good at Everton, is 2nd top scorer in the league ffs!!

Lautaro Martinez, who is just gash, is the 3rd top scorer.

And we've seen how players like Lukaku can tear the league up there but not be that good in the PL.

Osimhen doesn't have the best injury record either.
A bad world cup doesn't mean Lautaro is gash. He's pretty decent but inconsistent finishing has ruined his reputation. Personally wouldn't take him at United, but he's a decent player.

Lukaku was a very good goal scorer in Premier League so not sure what you mean. Not the striker we needed, but he scored goals.

Osimhen's injury record keeps being talked about but it's important to look at the injuries as well. Fractured cheekbone and covid twice is what kept him out most of the time. His record is fine.
 

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We have heard the sentence. A singer with a X factor. Osihmen is a CF with a X factor. A extraordinary CF. He has something extra on his lock.

I personally will rate him up there with Samuel Eto. His acceleration, top speed, ball controll and finish are on top level of football. His goal in the last match for Napoli. 100 % determination and 100 focus. He just want and see the goal in the net.

This boy is up there witht best CF out there in the football world. A top class CF. His sharpness and clinical is up there with Lewandoski.

That is what is his current level is at. One of the best CF out there.
 

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In a way I feel like he's suffering from the same bias that Cavani suffered if he stays in Italy for a longer time. People thought Cavani wasn't good enough for Man Utd and then he proved everyone wrong and we actually could have used somebody like him earlier in his career.

I think he's worth a shot, he's still young and can still improve, but he's definitely got something. Plus how many young strikers out there are available and have proven they can provide goals/asissts
 

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Victor is like the complete opposite of weghorst. He runs in behind, is a fantastic finisher and presses well too...however his link up play and hold up isnt so good. Weghorst excels in the link up play and hold up...but cant run in behind. Either way, its better to ger victor over harry kane
So he's another Lukaku? Or is that an unfair comparison? Only seen highlights of him, and although he looks like a great finisher, not a lot of clips showing his back to the goal or his first touch/one touch passing skills.
 

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We have heard the sentence. A singer with a X factor. Osihmen is a CF with a X factor. A extraordinary CF. He has something extra on his lock.

I personally will rate him up there with Samuel Eto. His acceleration, top speed, ball controll and finish are on top level of football. His goal in the last match for Napoli. 100 % determination and 100 focus. He just want and see the goal in the net.

This boy is up there witht best CF out there in the football world. A top class CF. His sharpness and clinical is up there with Lewandoski.

That is what is his current level is at. One of the best CF out there.
I don't think he's quite as technically good as Eto'o but god he'd be a perfect #9 signing here.

I think we'll sign Ramos and Osimhen will just stay for at least another year as they're winning the league and will fancy themselves to get very deep in the CL this and next year, but there will be games (particularly against higher lines) where we'll wish we had Osimhen.
 

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I don't think he's quite as technically good as Eto'o but god he'd be a perfect #9 signing here.

I think we'll sign Ramos and Osimhen will just stay for at least another year as they're winning the league and will fancy themselves to get very deep in the CL this and next year, but there will be games (particularly against higher lines) where we'll wish we had Osimhen.
If it's Ramos (third choice I reckon) then definitely need to see if Benzema fancies a year with us.
 

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Honestly feel Erik's coaching could help improve the areas of his game which need work,however agree with the poster above who says he will go to Chelsea so will have to look elsewhere.
 

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Honestly feel Erik's coaching could help improve the areas of his game which need work,however agree with the poster above who says he will go to Chelsea so will have to look elsewhere.
ESPN said PSG are interested. Theres going to be more demand than supply for a elite no9 this summer. PSG, possibly Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, Utd, spurs (if kane leaves), juventus (if vlahovic leaves), napoli (if osihmen leaves).

Probably a position you need to get signed, sealed and delivered early on in the window.
 

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ESPN said PSG are interested. Theres going to be more demand than supply for a elite no9 this summer. PSG, possibly Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, Utd, spurs (if kane leaves), juventus (if vlahovic leaves), napoli (if osihmen leaves).

Probably a position you need to get signed, sealed and delivered early on in the window.
Think we’ll be fine. I can see Madrid waiting for Haaland’s widely spoken clause, Juventus, Napoli and Spurs shop in different markets to us, which leaves Ramos, Kane, Osimhen and Vlahovic between us Chelsea, PSG and Bayern.

I also expect Lukaku to end up at Spurs if Kane leaves and Conte stays.
 

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How accurate is the talk of Osimhen being distinctly average in the build-up? Slightly concerning for the money we're talking about, especially as we're moving towards being a team that dominates possession high in the opposition final third.
 

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How accurate is the talk of Osimhen being distinctly average in the build-up? Slightly concerning for the money we're talking about, especially as we're moving towards being a team that dominates possession high in the opposition final third.
Any time I've seen him his hold up play has been excellent. He's not exactly Kane when it comes to dropping deep and spraying passes around, but when balls are fired up to him they stick more often than they would for other strikers.

I like Oshimen a lot but we have Kane as an option as well so I'm pretty relaxed about the striker situation. Either is good for me.
 

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How accurate is the talk of Osimhen being distinctly average in the build-up? Slightly concerning for the money we're talking about, especially as we're moving towards being a team that dominates possession high in the opposition final third.
You don't need your CF to be particularly gifted in the build-up to dominate possession high in the opposition third. After all, he won't be the one building play. He just needs to be proficient enough at hold up play and linking with others.

It's not an accident that Napoli themselves are the most possession-dominant side in their league, have the most tackles in the final third (even while making the 6th fewest tackles overall), have the most touches in the final third, etc etc. You can also look at ETH's previous physicality-first strikers, who weren't exactly master technicians themselves.

What Osimhen can't do that someone like Kane can to a very high level is actively drop out of the CF position into deeper positions to create for others by spraying the ball around. But that's not something our current team particularly needs from its centre-forward given what we've mostly lacked this season is threat in the box. If we signed Kane we'd need him to stop dropping deep in the way he has in some recent seasons at Spurs.

Last season at Ajax Haller had the 3rd fewest passes and 6th fewest touches per 90min out of a squad of 30 players. Even for touches in the attacking third he was only 15th. That puts into context how often a CF in that sort of set-up is actually involved in general play relative to the rest of the team.
 

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A bad world cup doesn't mean Lautaro is gash. He's pretty decent but inconsistent finishing has ruined his reputation. Personally wouldn't take him at United, but he's a decent player.

Lukaku was a very good goal scorer in Premier League so not sure what you mean. Not the striker we needed, but he scored goals.

Osimhen's injury record keeps being talked about but it's important to look at the injuries as well. Fractured cheekbone and covid twice is what kept him out most of the time. His record is fine.
He has had several shoulder injuries, though.
 

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He has had several shoulder injuries, though.
That is true. His last shoulder injury was a little bit over 2 years ago, though, so I think it's a risk worth taking. It would be far worse if he kept having injuries in his knee or hamstring, but shoulder injuries hasn't exactly stopped him from becoming better.