Vidic to leave at end of the season

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Vidic-let-Manchester-United-leaving-club.html

i respect his decision, especially for what he has done for the club over the years. but what do you guys think of this martin keown's colum? just want to know your views here. and i know keown is a big cnut, but maybe he has a point here. of course we don't know what is behind the scene, maybe moyes is the one who intents of bringing new defenders so vidic has to leave. or maybe it is vidic who decides he is done here.

i would have prefer to have him stay for another season at least though.
 

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You'd expect it if he was English (although an MLS swan-song does seem to be all the rage these days) but footballers who ply their trade overseas can't be expected to finish their career without a stint much closer to home. Edwin Van Der Sar would be a rare exception that proves the rule.
Yes.
 

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Given his positioning for Sidwell's goal, the timing is about right for him to announce his departure. Great player in his peak, top defender.
 

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At fault for both of Fulham's goals today.

His decision-making has been woeful for large periods of this season, and I think he's cost us quite a few important goals.
 

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Why the actual feck did he decide to head the ball straight back into midfield instead of clearing it the fcuk away? It's the last minutes of a must win match which we've managed to turn around despite not creating anything at all, and he decides NOW is the moment to start keeping hold of the ball? For fcuks sake, he's spent the entire season hoofing it and clearing it like a coward, if ever there was a right time to hoof it...
 

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Despite what buffoons like Neville will tell you he's been a liability all season.
 

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Let's blame Vidic.

Was his fault Carrick backed out from the challenge against Sidwell in the first place.
 

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He was fine. Not brilliant and was attracted to Tankovic's good run to create space, but Evra and Fletcher were the ones with the main responsibility for the first goal.
 

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Why the actual feck did he decide to head the ball straight back into midfield instead of clearing it the fcuk away? It's the last minutes of a must win match which we've managed to turn around despite not creating anything at all, and he decides NOW is the moment to start keeping hold of the ball? For fcuks sake, he's spent the entire season hoofing it and clearing it like a coward, if ever there was a right time to hoof it...
couldn't believe that such an experienced defender would commit such a schoolboy error. Unbelievable
 

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Let's blame Vidic.

Was his fault Carrick backed out from the challenge against Sidwell in the first place.
This! It wasn't even a really bad header from Vidic, Carrick should have clearly been the first player on the ball and if he didn't back off at the last second he would've gotten a freekick.
 
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We've seen the weaknesses in his game too much this season. He does look more vulnerable and more of a liability than we could have imagined. Not to mention his injury record as well. Leaving is good for both sides and it's becoming clearer than ever.
 

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The only player to blame is Vidic, he can see both players, a good strong header that clears the ball away and thats 3 points
 

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Let's blame Vidic.

Was his fault Carrick backed out from the challenge against Sidwell in the first place.
You could blame several players for both their goals, but Vidic was probably the main culprit - at least for their second. There's absolutely no need to head the ball back into the middle like that.

Besides, this is a thread about Vidic. Expect his contribution to the game to be discussed here - if you want to blame Carrick (which makes sense), then there's a thread for him as well.
 

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Poor on both goals for me. Dragged into positions he didn't really have to go in, left a man free (less so for the first goal as Fletcher and Evra should've covered him).

Not impressed by that header towards Carrick. You could say Carrick should be stronger but it was a hospital pass with his head.
 

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Should have cleared his lines for their second goal. Big strong header would have done it.
 

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Having a captain who doesn't want to be at the club isn't helping. He has been terrible all season and had virtually nothing to do today but ended up costing us 2 goals (okay the first goal was a combination of a few players) and could have cost another when Richardson broke away and Rooney cut out his cut back.

Legend of a player but looking at his form you can see his heart isn't in it, hope Smalling/Evans/Jones play from here on in. I would also give the captaincy to someone else
 

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How can you blame him for the Richardson chance? Richardson is faster than all of our CBs bar Smalling and Jones who would have given him a good test in that situation. We were a shambles at that corner and our slow defender who has always been slow was left exposed against someone with pace. The difference in the past is he was given a little bit of help by the other older players like Evra, Fletcher and Carrick none of whom contribute enough defensively right now and helped put him out to pasture with that break away. Where were they?
 

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How can you blame him for the Richardson chance? Richardson is faster than all of our CBs bar Smalling and Jones who would have given him a good test in that situation. We were a shambles at that corner and our slow defender who has always been slow was left exposed against someone with pace. The difference in the past is he was given a little bit of help by the other older players like Evra, Fletcher and Carrick none of whom contribute enough defensively right now and helped put him out to pasture with that break away. Where were they?
true, but i ve never seen him being outpaced so easily.btw Richardson was playing on Fulham s left side, so i suppose it wa s Rafael s job.
 

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true, but i ve never seen him being outpaced so easily.btw Richardson was playing on Fulham s left side, so i suppose it wa s Rafael s job.
Yeah that might be true as well. Although who knows what our setup is supposed to be on set pieces like that someone else might have been responsible for that area on the edge of the box and to the right defensively. Vidic being tasked with hunting down the break aways down the wing is obviously a calamity waiting to happen. Even at the best he's even been, thats a problem and a goal or red card waiting to happen.
 

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Having a captain who doesn't want to be at the club isn't helping. He has been terrible all season and had virtually nothing to do today but ended up costing us 2 goals (okay the first goal was a combination of a few players) and could have cost another when Richardson broke away and Rooney cut out his cut back.

Legend of a player but looking at his form you can see his heart isn't in it, hope Smalling/Evans/Jones play from here on in. I would also give the captaincy to someone else
I kind of agree with this. I respect his wishes for wanting to leave and also wish him well. But by definition his heart cant be in the club now as it once was. He should have been relieved of his captaincy as soon as he announced he was leaving.

I also don't hold out for many commanding performances for the remainder of the season. He has no trophies to win to go out on a high so I can see 100% motivation being an issue. And at this level, it gets found out.

Sadly our midfield issues means Moyes cant play jones at centre back, else I'd happily play the season to the end rotating Jones, Evans and Smalling at Centre-back so they get time playing as a unit. They are our future and so should get the game time they need. I mean how much worse can it get?
 

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Having a captain who doesn't want to be at the club isn't helping. He has been terrible all season and had virtually nothing to do today but ended up costing us 2 goals (okay the first goal was a combination of a few players) and could have cost another when Richardson broke away and Rooney cut out his cut back.

Legend of a player but looking at his form you can see his heart isn't in it, hope Smalling/Evans/Jones play from here on in. I would also give the captaincy to someone else
He has only said he doesn't want to be at the club next season. He has been poor this season, but it may be decline with age like Rio rather than anything more.
 

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He has only said he doesn't want to be at the club next season. He has been poor this season, but it may be decline with age like Rio rather than anything more.
or both...i guess he s a bit focused on where he s going next year - contract offers,house hunting etc
 

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he's been doing this all season. Time to go with Smalling and Evans as our regular starters
 

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Or you know, because he's a specialist. And even at his very best he needed a few specific things to cater to his style of play, not being dragged out of position and having someone calm and comfortable defending and on the ball next to him. He doesnt really get any of those things from his teammates this season. He's still not quite as dominant in the air and clearing the ball out as he was at his best which is dissappointing and surely down to Vidic and his body alone. But its no surprise hes not able to play very well without the team providing what it used to around him
 

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Even ignoring the fact he headed the ball to Fulham onthe edge of his own area for no reason other than lazyness, Bent was HIS man...he grabbed Bent, then ran away from him for no reason at all, and then Bent scored and Vidic seemed utterly surprised that Bent was even there.

He's been barely better than pub standard at times this season. He can't pass, he doesn't clear the ball properly, almost ever. He makes basic defensive errors near enough every time the opposition attack. What is he actually doing that isn't fundamentally wrong and not good enough? The last two performances alone have involved him costing us three goals, and getting selfishly sent off...and he's found time in between to whine about being unlucky and announce publicly that he can't be arsed to play for the club anymore.

It's been such a shambles the blame actually shifts pretty much entirely to Moyes for not dropping him from the squad.

The improvements when Vidic hasn't been in our defence have been so blindingly obvious that there's just no excuse for ignoring it for this long.
 

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Him and Carrick certainly the main guys to blame for that second Fulham goal. Heading the ball into such a dangerous area of the pitch is never a good idea from Vidic but Carrick is wresteled of the ball way to easy and if he loses the ball in such a position he has to go for the professional foul and take the yellow.
 

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Can't understand why he actually started... and gave away 2 goals. No more Vidic please.
 

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Can't understand why he actually started... and gave away 2 goals. No more Vidic please.
Jones and Evans both got injured in the last game, while he's been rested recently due to his suspension.

I thought that with the announcement of him leaving in the summer, the air of certainty surrounding it that Vidic would get back to form, giving his best for the club. Yes, he's past his best but he was last season too and he was fantastic for us once he came back from injury.

I really have no idea what he was thinking with the headed pass at the end of the game - that is Vidic territory. If you could pick any player to have played in the premier league to be in position to get his head on that ball, you'd probably pick Vidic, right? I know I would.
 

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Jones and Evans both got injured in the last game, while he's been rested recently due to his suspension.

I thought that with the announcement of him leaving in the summer, the air of certainty surrounding it that Vidic would get back to form, giving his best for the club. Yes, he's past his best but he was last season too and he was fantastic for us once he came back from injury.

I really have no idea what he was thinking with the headed pass at the end of the game - that is Vidic territory. If you could pick any player to have played in the premier league to be in position to get his head on that ball, you'd probably pick Vidic, right? I know I would.
I suppose the fact Jones and Evans got knocks is a fair enough reason, I was wondering otherwise why on earth he was in the team. It's only that Rio's been so bad that people have largely ignored that Vidic looks completely past it. He's not in any kind of form, he's not going to be here next season and all our major aims for this season are now a write-off, we may as well just pick 2 of Smalling, Jones and Evans for the rest of the season to see whether these lads are actually good enough. If, as I suspect, we don't have 2 of the requisite standard then we'll have to spend big on a proper replacement for Rio/Vidic but we may as well use our last 13 league games to gauge just how good the younger defenders are.